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FThorn
07-19-2007, 08:11
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070719/OPINION/707190427

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Double meaning for 'duck' will continue in parks

Our position: Approval of guns in state parks was wrongheaded but predictable.

Firearms fan Kyle Hupfer has left his post as director of the Indiana Department of Natural Resources for the private sector, but one of his more dubious legacies lives on to the detriment of public lands.
The Natural Resources Commission on Tuesday put its rubber stamp of approval on a rule imposed by Hupfer last September, permitting handguns to be carried on all DNR property including state parks.
The commission cited a 3-to-1 ratio of public comment in favor of the pistol-packing, as if the gun lobby and its loyal legions can't out-mail anybody when they gear up.
It can hardly be pure coincidence that Hupfer made his original announcement on the same day Gov. Mitch Daniels made a joint appearance with the president of the National Rifle Association.
Daniels and Attorney General Steve Carter must approve the commission's affirmation, but the NRA has never had reason to worry about that sort of thing from government in Indiana, a perennial leader in gun-related deaths.
The question remains: What dangers have our canoeists, hikers and bird-watchers been failing to arm themselves against all these years?
The question remains: Should they feel safer knowing the guy in the next tent may well be not just drinking but packing heat?
The question remains: How is it a constitutional right to carry a concealed lethal weapon in a state park, as Hupfer so ardently proclaimed, when the republic has no problem forbidding non-police from doing so in schools, airports, courthouses and even sports arenas?
The answer, friends, is blowing in the political winds, and those aren't the kind of fresh breezes for which one repairs to woods and wildlife sanctuaries.

KSFreeman
07-19-2007, 10:43
Time to return fire!:thumbsup:

IPDBrad
07-19-2007, 11:48
Originally posted by FThorn
[B]http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070719/OPINION/707190427


Our position: Approval of guns in state parks was wrongheaded but predictable.



You know what, the Star finally got something correct.































This should have never needed approval, we already had the right.
Good Job DNR :thumbsup:

Scutter01
07-19-2007, 14:12
Originally posted by FThorn
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The question remains: Should they feel safer knowing the guy in the next tent may well be not just drinking but packing heat?
The question remains: How is it a constitutional right to carry a concealed lethal weapon in a state park, as Hupfer so ardently proclaimed, when the republic has no problem forbidding non-police from doing so in schools, airports, courthouses and even sports arenas?


So, the complaint is that someone might be camping in a park, might have a gun, and might be drinking, and then what? Go on a rampage? What does camping have to do with that? Pretty thin argument, there, Indy Star.

At least they got the second part right. Why *is* carry allowed in parks but not schools, etc.? Let's work on getting our rights to carry in those places back next!

mpholic
07-19-2007, 20:09
Wow, another unintelligent, uninformed, incorrect anti gun article by the Indy Star. Why am I not surprised. As pathetic and poorly written as it is there will be a number of people who will read it and belive every word of it.

rhino465
07-19-2007, 20:19
Originally posted by FThorn
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070719/OPINION/707190427

The question remains: How is it a constitutional right to carry a concealed lethal weapon in a state park, as Hupfer so ardently proclaimed, when the republic has no problem forbidding non-police from doing so in schools, airports, courthouses and even sports arenas?


The moron who wrote the article has unwittingly made a really good point ... contrary to the point he was trying to make. The answer isn't that our rights should be violated on DNR land ALSO, the answer is that the gov't should have no authority to violate our rights to carry in any of those other places.

epsylum
07-19-2007, 22:44
Well I for one want to push for government to go to his house and confiscate his computer(s), pens, pencils, and all writing devices and he should be thrown in jail if he ever tries to write anything again. I think his usage of the First Amendment is a danger to us all. Do it for the children!

mpholic
07-20-2007, 07:14
Originally posted by epsylum
Well I for one want to push for government to go to his house and confiscate his computer(s), pens, pencils, and all writing devices and he should be thrown in jail if he ever tries to write anything again. I think his usage of the First Amendment is a danger to us all. Do it for the children!

I believe we should have as much freedom with our guns as he has with his editorials. I wonder what he would say if the government no longer let him write anti gun editorials.

FThorn
07-20-2007, 07:24
Originally posted by mpholic
I believe we should have as much freedom with our guns as he has with his editorials. I wonder what he would say if the government no longer let him write anti gun editorials.

With that analogy, can we say that he was shooting his mouth off, then?

IndyGunFreak
07-22-2007, 03:59
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070721/OPINION01/707210414/-1/ARCHIVE

Star misses the mark on editorial about guns in parks

It is hard to understand how The Star's editors can call the decision to allow licensed citizens the opportunity to protect themselves on public land a detriment, although this newspaper's anti-gun policies are well known ("Double meaning for 'duck' will continue in parks," July 19).

The continuing castigation of the National Rifle Association as the devil and purveyor of all that is bad has run its course. This organization is one of the few left in this country that protect the rights of the citizen.
To think that controlling the law-abiding, licensed individual will in some way reduce firearms crime is at best laughable. Stating that Indiana is a "perennial leader in gun-related deaths" is nothing short of a lie. The highest gun-related death rate in this country comes to us from an area where, until recent legislation, gun-control laws were the toughest in the country, Washington, D.C. Let's look into the real problems here, the criminal segment of our society.

Richard Fiscus

Indianapolis
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Great rebuttal if you ask me...

Well done Mr. Fiscus :thumbsup:

FThorn
07-22-2007, 07:57
Just read/refer to the current America's First Freedom article on a study they did on gun-owning nations and non-gun owning and the murder/suicide rates.

epsylum
07-22-2007, 23:15
Originally posted by mpholic
I believe we should have as much freedom with our guns as he has with his editorials. I wonder what he would say if the government no longer let him write anti gun editorials.

It was a joke. ;)

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