Inherited a Davis p-380.. Safe to shoot?

[michaelj1978]

Good god this thing has a 20 pound trigger. It is new however. Probably not worth trading or selling. 5 round!?!? Magazine.

Not an ideal gun but I do plan on keeping it loaded somewhere in the house where my wife and I only know just in case we're not close to our other guns if something were to happen.

My main question is, is it safe to shoot? I'll be using factory ammo (WWB), and don't plan on making it a range gun, just want to run 100 rounds through it before I stash it somewhere in the house.

Thanks!

[Jeff82]

Originally posted by michaelj1978
Good god this thing has a 20 pound trigger. It is new however. Probably not worth trading or selling. 5 round!?!? Magazine.

Not an ideal gun but I do plan on keeping it loaded somewhere in the house where my wife and I only know just in case we're not close to our other guns if something were to happen.

My main question is, is it safe to shoot? I'll be using factory ammo (WWB), and don't plan on making it a range gun, just want to run 100 rounds through it before I stash it somewhere in the house.

Thanks!
The only person who can answer that is a well trained (gunsmith maybe?) person who can look at it and test fire it first hand. You can do it yourself if you have the knowledge.

Just my personal opinion but, your plan sucks. Never leave a loaded firearm unattended. Get a carry permit and keep it with you at all times or unload it and secure it if you leave it somewhere. It would suck to get shot with your own gun if you ever interrupt a burglary. Even worse it'd suck to know because you left a loaded unsecured gun out that a kid was killed by it.

Irresponsible ideas like this aid the antis in getting "mandatory lock your gun up" laws passed. And now a portion of every new gun price goes for mandatory trigger locks because of this kind of baloney.

Don't take it personal, just make better plans. :)

[michaelj1978]

I have my carry permit but I don't always carry in the house. I can only be so paranoid. No kids in the house and it'll be left in a well hidden place with no rounds chambered, just a mag in it.

[Jeff82]

(Not telling you how, just sharing what I do)
If my wallet and watch is on so is my gun. When I leave the house I simply go. The gun is part of my wardrobe. If I had to stop and put a gun on (and take it off) then it would inhibit my life style, not enhance it.

Ask Mrs. Price if she had time to "go get a gun."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1173482405

This isn't the worst I've heard. In LEO training back in the 80's they had us listen to a 911 tape of a woman calling while a man was breaking into the house. You heard him smashing the door in. Then heard him smashing the bedroom door in. Then heard him raping her. She was screaming the whole time. It got real bad when he turned her over and started raping her anally. The worst part was also hearing her baby crying in the background as it was in the same room as mama. Her shrieks live with me today. Police was minutes away when she only had seconds. Does it really matter (to her) he got caught? Damage was already done.

Imagine sitting at home watching TV late at night when your front door explodes into your house quickly followed by several armed men.

Willing to bet your wife's chastity you can get to a gun in time? I'm sure she'll appreciate your answer.

Never mind, I'm just being paranoid. (Which is fine with me as long as my wife's and my colon's are in kept intact!)




:supergrin:

[ssgrock3]

Originally posted by Jeff82
(Not telling you how, just sharing what I do)
If my wallet and watch is on so is my gun. When I leave the house I simply go. The gun is part of my wardrobe. If I had to stop and put a gun on (and take it off) then it would inhibit my life style, not enhance it.

Ask Mrs. Price if she had time to "go get a gun."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1173482405

This isn't the worst I've heard. In LEO training back in the 80's they had us listen to a 911 tape of a woman calling while a man was breaking into the house. You heard him smashing the door in. Then heard him smashing the bedroom door in. Then heard him raping her. She was screaming the whole time. It got real bad when he turned her over and started raping her anally. The worst part was also hearing her baby crying in the background as it was in the same room as mama. Her shrieks live with me today. Police was minutes away when she only had seconds. Does it really matter (to her) he got caught? Damage was already done.

Imagine sitting at home watching TV late at night when your front door explodes into your house quickly followed by several armed men.

Willing to bet your wife's chastity you can get to a gun in time? I'm sure she'll appreciate your answer.

Never mind, I'm just being paranoid. (Which is fine with me as long as my wife's and my colon's are in kept intact!)




:supergrin: Damn that was graphic, but your point is Well taken!

[Jeff82]

Originally posted by ssgrock3
Damn that was graphic, but your point is Well taken!
Instead, I'd much rather hear or read (and it tickles me pink) a rather mundane story about how an armed home owner blasted some cretins to kingdom-come after they broke their way into his (or her) castle.

But I'm old fashioned that way! :supergrin:

I also couldn't stand not being ready to do the same 'specially after spouting off about it the way I do here! :)

[DriBak]

I had one, it functioned like an 80 dollar pistol should

[#1Glock30]

Originally posted by Jeff82
The only person who can answer that is a well trained (gunsmith maybe?) person who can look at it and test fire it first hand. You can do it yourself if you have the knowledge.

Just my personal opinion but, your plan sucks. Never leave a loaded firearm unattended. Get a carry permit and keep it with you at all times or unload it and secure it if you leave it somewhere. It would suck to get shot with your own gun if you ever interrupt a burglary. Even worse it'd suck to know because you left a loaded unsecured gun out that a kid was killed by it.

Irresponsible ideas like this aid the antis in getting "mandatory lock your gun up" laws passed. And now a portion of every new gun price goes for mandatory trigger locks because of this kind of baloney.

Don't take it personal, just make better plans. :)



Actually, there is an article in the August 2007 Guns & Ammo magazine that discusses this very issue of hiding guns in your home to make them readily available yet safe from unauthorized hands. It's called "Location,Location,Location" on page 50.It's written by a David Spaulding,an investigator trained in occult-crime.
So please give michaelj1978 a bit of a break here. If you feel threatened enough to have to carry at all times when in your house maybe it's not a terrible idea to carefully plan out your home defense strategy including weapons distribution. When circumstances require you to act you must act.
Read, read, read, learn, learn, learn
:panties:

[Jeff82]

Originally posted by #1Glock30
Actually, there is an article in the August 2007 Guns & Ammo magazine that discusses this very issue of hiding guns in your home to make them readily available yet safe from unauthorized hands. It's called "Location,Location,Location" on page 50.It's written by a David Spaulding,an investigator trained in occult-crime.
So please give michaelj1978 a bit of a break here. If you feel threatened enough to have to carry at all times when in your house maybe it's not a terrible idea to carefully plan out your home defense strategy including weapons distribution. When circumstances require you to act you must act.
Read, read, read, learn, learn, learn
:panties: I hope you don't take everything written in the gun rags as gospel truth. The points I made still stand regardless of Dave's article. The OP (all of us actually) must do a risk assessment over his chosen plans and decide what he's most comfortable with and what risks he's willing to accept or attempt to mitigate/control.

Carrying has nothing to do with paranoia but has everything to do with (for me) my gun being incorporated in a manner that it doesn't interfere with my lifestyle one bit (like me carrying my watch or wallet), being comfortable that I can wear it all my waking hours and not have it bother me, and not a deterrent by my having to handle it any time I want to run outside, go to the store, etc., by having to stop, put it on, take it off, load (the same cartridge over and over which is bad), unload , etc, yada yada.

You want to leave loaded firearms where criminals, kids, or dopey friends can get to them before you, that's your choice. You can tell the jury (if you get that chance) that, "Dave said this was a good idea and I could do this" and see how far it'll get you.

Common sense: apply it, apply it, apply it!

[#1Glock30]

Originally posted by Jeff82
I hope you don't take everything written in the gun rags as gospel truth. The points I made still stand regardless of Dave's article. The OP (all of us actually) must do a risk assessment over his chosen plans and decide what he's most comfortable with and what risks he's willing to accept or attempt to mitigate/control.

Carrying has nothing to do with paranoia but has everything to do with (for me) my gun being incorporated in a manner that it doesn't interfere with my lifestyle one bit (like me carrying my watch or wallet), being comfortable that I can wear it all my waking hours and not have it bother me, and not a deterrent by my having to handle it any time I want to run outside, go to the store, etc., by having to stop, put it on, take it off, load (the same cartridge over and over which is bad), unload , etc, yada yada.

You want to leave loaded firearms where criminals, kids, or dopey friends can get to them before you, that's your choice. You can tell the jury (if you get that chance) that, "Dave said this was a good idea and I could do this" and see how far it'll get you.

Common sense: apply it, apply it, apply it!

I never said I wanted to do any such thing as store them around my house. You were acting like michaelj1978 was an idiot for even mentioning it I simply pointed out that he is not alone in his beliefs as the article points out. I just asked you to give him a break. In my state I don't have to lock up my arms unless there are minors in the house so don't preach to me how I keep my arms. I go by the laws in my state not by peoples opinions. So don't say I believe everything I read in the gun rags, internet or anywhere else. I read all I can and don't limit myself to any one belief. I don't keep dopey friends around my house and nor should you.Also, criminals are FFFING UP if they enter my domain!
Just for the record I have a gun safe. And just one question, how do you keep your carry gun in your pajamas as some people were them while they're awake ;)

[Jeff82]

Originally posted by #1Glock30
(1)I never said I wanted to do any such thing as store them around my house. (2)You were acting like michaelj1978 was an idiot for even mentioning it I simply pointed out that he is not alone in his beliefs as the article points out. (3)I just asked you to give him a break. (4)In my state I don't have to lock up my arms unless there are minors in the house so don't preach to me how I keep my arms. I go by the laws in my state not by peoples opinions. (5)So don't say I believe everything I read in the gun rags, internet or anywhere else. I read all I can and don't limit myself to any one belief. I don't keep dopey friends around my house and nor should you.Also, criminals are FFFING UP if they enter my domain!
(6)Just for the record I have a gun safe. (7)And just one question, how do you keep your carry gun in your pajamas as some people were them while they're awake ;) (1)Never said you did. My comments to you were about taking an article from a gun mag and applying it without any other consideration. (2)I haven't "acted" at all. I've relayed my thoughts about a subject presented. I never said he was an "idiot", you inferred it, (thought it at least or you wouldn't have typed it as that thought didn't come from me!). I merely gave him my opinion on a single course of action he planned on carrying out. In that regard I said I thought it sucked then gave two reasons why I thought so. I included that similar ideas are irresponsible and give the anti's reason to further restrict gun owners. The fact that others too may "drink from the same poisonous cup" doesn't lessen it's lethal effect. (3)Giving him some sound advice is giving him a break. Hopefully he heeds it before the risks in his first plan manifest. (4)The fact that a law is on the books doesn't necessarily mean anything good or bad. To make a decision based on the fact that it exists instead of its quality is foolhardy. One law can't possibly accommodate all situations/scenarios. That must be determined by the particular circumstances. Some states don't require motorcyclists to wear helmets but it's be pretty stupid for a stunt rider (any rider actually) to go without one simply because the law allowed it. And, I don't think I've ever talked to you, let alone "preach" to you, about how to keep your arms. (5)I think the quote was, "I hope you don't take everything written... ) therefore, I didn't. (6)As do I. Great decision! (7)If I take the time to put on pj's I also wear a bathrobe. In one pocket of the bathrobe is a Keltec P32 and a spare mag is in the other. When I don't wear pj's I do wear a pair (I've several in different colors) of cotton draw-string shorts that have pockets. The Keltec will be found in those pockets. :)

Have a great day! :)

[#1Glock30]

Ah hell. Much Respect Jeff82.:thumbsup: I've got my eye on the KelTec P3AT. But I'm trying to get it for under 3 Benjamins. Most of the local shops want $329 to $369 for them. They're a good choice in small arms carry , right? Has it been dependable for you? I figure you keep them clean they'll do you well. What do you think?
As for the Davis 380 , like the Cobra 380 my son bought , I'm not
nuts about. Way to heavy. But I have to say he's shot a few hundred rounds though it with zero problems.

[Jeff82]

Originally posted by #1Glock30
Ah hell. Much Respect Jeff82.:thumbsup: I've got my eye on the KelTec P3AT. But I'm trying to get it for under 3 Benjamins. Most of the local shops want $329 to $369 for them. They're a good choice in small arms carry , right? Has it been dependable for you? I figure you keep them clean they'll do you well. What do you think?
As for the Davis 380 , like the Cobra 380 my son bought , I'm not
nuts about. Way to heavy. But I have to say he's shot a few hundred rounds though it with zero problems. I absolutely love my P32. (I needed a "deep" concealment gun. Keltec P32 was world's smallest, lightest, locked-breech self-loading pistol.) I bought it for $212, IIRC. And it was before the P3AT came out. I've heard that these are either shooters or they aren't. Mine is a shooter. First thing I did was buy as many different kinds of .32 ACP ammo I could find (about seven ) and shoot for function and accuracy. (Accuracy just to see, don't plan on ever shooting it in self defense over about 5 feet.) It fed and cycled everything I could put in it. It was holding 4" groups out to about 30 feet. Was stoking it with Winchester Silvertips (only caliber Silvertips I will trust for SD) in warm weather and ball in colder weather. As of late I've just stuck with ball year round. This due to a lot more reading on the wounding mechanisms of pistol ammo.

ETA: I've thought about moving to the P3AT but two things hold me back: that 50/50 "shooter/not" thing; and the 380 slide doesn't lock back on last round. I can see myself under stress just clicking away with an empty pistol while my focus is on the bad guy. The .32 will lock back. My planned technique, if I ever have the misfortune to need it, will be to dump all seven rounds (shoot to slide lock) into the bg's upper chest asap, change mags, and scan. Hope it works! :) I want to have all seven rounds into him as he realises I hit him with the 1st one. Then, when he starts his slow motion face plant, I'll be looking for his buddy.

[#1Glock30]

Originally posted by Jeff82
ETA: I've thought about moving to the P3AT but two things hold me back: that 50/50 "shooter/not" thing; and the 380 slide doesn't lock back on last round. I can see myself under stress just clicking away with an empty pistol while my focus is on the bad guy. The .32 will lock back. My planned technique, if I ever have the misfortune to need it, will be to dump all seven rounds (shoot to slide lock) into the bg's upper chest asap, change mags, and scan. Hope it works! :) I want to have all seven rounds into him as he realises I hit him with the 1st one. Then, when he starts his slow motion face plant, I'll be looking for his buddy. [/B]

I did not realize that the slide would not lock back,Jeff82.
That's enough to make me think maybe the KelTec 32cal may be the way to go.That's the one thing I don't like about my Jennings J22.Other than that it's a great little gun. Just use it for fun. Plus ammos cheaper I reckon. I'll have to dwell on that awhile.
Thanks for the input.