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presidingglock
08-09-2007, 19:57
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I just want to share my newly acquired AK47. It has been a blast (no pun intended) so far after going 120 failure free rounds. :banana:

3kings
08-09-2007, 22:36
congratulations bro!

welcome to the dark side of the force :thumbsup:

PMMA97
08-09-2007, 23:03
Any BoG out there who owns an AK74?

Whats the difference between the two?

vega
08-10-2007, 00:02
Is that the China clone or original Russian? Ang ganda. Sarap tuloy bumili ng Saiga.

Glock_19_9x19
08-10-2007, 01:31
Originally posted by PMMA97
Any BoG out there who owns an AK74?

Whats the difference between the two?

AK47 - http://world.guns.ru/assault/as01-e.htm
Caliber 7.62x39 mm

AK74 - http://world.guns.ru/assault/as02-e.htm
Caliber: 5.45x39 mm

I'd rather have an AK47 to go with my glock. Reliable, easy to use and maintain. My uncle has one. Ayaw nya ibenta sakin :)

presidingglock
08-10-2007, 02:44
Originally posted by vega
Is that the China clone or original Russian? Ang ganda. Sarap tuloy bumili ng Saiga.

It's a Norinco I acquired from twin pines sir. You should go for it Vega. I didn't realize that owning an AK can be a lot of FUN. And I mean really FUN (although the ammo is quite expensive).

By the way, I'm thinking of using a magazine coupler, do you think it is a good idea? Would it not hinder the handling of the rifle? Thanks.

presidingglock
08-10-2007, 02:53
Originally posted by Glock_19_9x19

I'd rather have an AK47 to go with my glock. Reliable, easy to use and maintain. My uncle has one. Ayaw nya ibenta sakin :) [/B]

The same reasons I acquired my AK sir - reliability, ease of use and hassle free to maintain. It is practically like my glocks (17 and 19). Whoever said that the glocks are the ak of the handgun world (and vice-versa) was actually telling the truth.

presidingglock
08-10-2007, 02:56
Originally posted by 3kings
congratulations bro!

welcome to the dark side of the force :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot, sir. I'm glad to be here Obi-wan (pardon the spelling)! :supergrin:

chowchow
08-10-2007, 03:08
Meyron na palang mga AK sa atin. Mukha ngang Norinco yan.

batangueno
08-10-2007, 05:21
Very nice. :thumbsup:

Are you a civilian? Paano processing ng papers?

wunder9
08-10-2007, 06:43
Sir, were you able to confirm if it is from Norinco?

G19c,PH
08-10-2007, 07:35
Ganda!!:thumbsup: Congrats!:)

glockomolly
08-10-2007, 07:57
Nice rifle! :thumbsup: I like to get one but last time I've checked sa twin pines MCS, the sales lady told me you must be a law enforcer or must have a security agency to buy one. I beleive they also sell M14s sa twin Pines. :upeyes:

presidingglock
08-10-2007, 17:30
Originally posted by batangueno
Very nice. :thumbsup:

Are you a civilian? Paano processing ng papers?


Yes, I am a civilian sir. With respect to the papers, I submitted my application (together with the requirements) in the same manner as buying an ordinary handgun. Luckily, it was approved.

presidingglock
08-10-2007, 17:35
Originally posted by wunder9
Sir, were you able to confirm if it is from Norinco?


No, I was not able to personally confirm it sir. I was just given an assurance by Twin Pines-Cebu that the unit is a Norinco.

mikol
08-10-2007, 23:26
Originally posted by presidingglock
No, I was not able to personally confirm it sir. I was just given an assurance by Twin Pines-Cebu that the unit is a Norinco.
no markings anywhere bai to indicate that it's a Norinco prod.?
pila man imo palit ana bai kung ok ra nimo isulti? :)

kontra
08-10-2007, 23:52
eto ba ang tinutukoy nyo? :supergrin:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/pinoykenji/Guns/DSC07156.jpg

The AK47 from twin pines doesn't have any markings. Just the serial number and letters for the selector switch.

mikol
08-10-2007, 23:57
thanks for the info bro.:)

presidingglock
08-11-2007, 03:58
Originally posted by mikol
no markings anywhere bai to indicate that it's a Norinco prod.?
pila man imo palit ana bai kung ok ra nimo isulti? :)

Bai, I acquired the unit for 42k plus processing fee. As mentioned by Kontra, there are no markings on the unit to indicate the manufacturer or where it was made.

wunder9
08-11-2007, 06:07
Twin's AKs, aka Chicom Type 56, have a factory number on the left hand side of the receiver. There is an oval with the numbers 313.

Norinco and the late Polytech are exporters. But the actual factories that produce Type 56 rifles are only identified by the factory numbers.

mikol
08-11-2007, 07:54
Originally posted by presidingglock
Bai, I acquired the unit for 42k plus processing fee. As mentioned by Kontra, there are no markings on the unit to indicate the manufacturer or where it was made.
salamat bai, it's a very nice kicker you have there.
pwede pang harvest ng palay or tubo. :thumbsup: :supergrin:

Glock_19_9x19
08-11-2007, 20:40
Originally posted by wunder9
Twin's AKs, aka Chicom Type 56, have a factory number on the left hand side of the receiver. There is an oval with the numbers 313.

Norinco and the late Polytech are exporters. But the actual factories that produce Type 56 rifles are only identified by the factory numbers.

Whoa! Type 56 pala.. What caliber? Are these the civilian version na semi-auto lang?

glock26ph
08-11-2007, 21:02
Wow very nice!!!

presidingglock
08-11-2007, 21:56
Originally posted by wunder9
Twin's AKs, aka Chicom Type 56, have a factory number on the left hand side of the receiver. There is an oval with the numbers 313.

Norinco and the late Polytech are exporters. But the actual factories that produce Type 56 rifles are only identified by the factory numbers.

Thanks for the info. sir. My unit also has the numbers 313 followed by the numbers 56.

presidingglock
08-11-2007, 21:58
Originally posted by Glock_19_9x19
Whoa! Type 56 pala.. What caliber? Are these the civilian version na semi-auto lang?

Sir, mine can go automatic with a semi-auto option. The ammo is 7.62x39 mm.

presidingglock
08-11-2007, 22:03
Originally posted by mikol
salamat bai, it's a very nice kicker you have there.
pwede pang harvest ng palay or tubo. :thumbsup: :supergrin:

You're welcome Bai. Unfortunately, there are no more palays or tubos in Talisay, at least, within my place in Laray. How about in Kimba?

atmarcella
08-11-2007, 23:01
uy taga talisay ka bai...me kilala ka na "pelayo" apelyedo dyan?

mikol
08-11-2007, 23:15
Originally posted by presidingglock
You're welcome Bai. Unfortunately, there are no more palays or tubos in Talisay, at least, within my place in Laray. How about in Kimba?
wala na rin....damohan nalang sa likod ng subdivision, tsaka mga stall ng isda/karne at maraming tricycle sa labasan.........:sad:

presidingglock
08-11-2007, 23:20
Originally posted by atmarcella
uy taga talisay ka bai...me kilala ka na "pelayo" apelyedo dyan?

Sorry Bai (or Pare), wala akong kakilala na Pelayo ang apelyedo. Hindi kasi ako lumalabas palagi (nagagalit si misis):supergrin:

presidingglock
08-13-2007, 00:17
This is what it looks like with a mag. coupler. It's heavier, but is it tacticool enough? What do you all think? Thanks

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horge
08-13-2007, 00:26
is it tacticool enough? What do you all think?

Ahhhh, ehhhmmm... your pics are so out of focus, I can't tell.

Tell you what, though...
Lend your AK to me for a couple of... uhmmm, months,
then I can form a decent opinion :supergrin:
(Bundle a few boxes of ammo with it na rin, please?)

:banana: :banana: :banana:

presidingglock
08-13-2007, 00:47
Nice try! :laughabove:

Dok
08-13-2007, 01:01
Are you a civilian? Paano processing ng papers?

i talked to one of sales reps ng twin pines about 2 weeks ago, they said that yung AK daw is now allowed for civilians. i don't know saan galing ang memo and why they change their policy regarding high power FAs

mikol
08-13-2007, 01:35
Originally posted by Dok
i talked to one of sales reps ng twin pines about 2 weeks ago, they said that yung AK daw is now allowed for civilians. i don't know saan galing ang memo and why they change their policy regarding high power FAs
it's all about the benjamins dok.:supergrin:
since they(the govt.) are allowing civis to license loose high powered FA, why not allow them to buy one or more nalang in legal gunstores & have their(the govt.)share on that stores income/profit when they pay their tax di ba?:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

dagdag income na rin yung mga additional hi-powered registrations & licensing doon sa CRAME or FED & it's satellite licensing agencies in the province.
Regular kasi ang issuance ng licnese noong mga new purchase FA di katulad ng amnesty na di naman regular. :)

Dok
08-13-2007, 02:43
tumpak!:thumbsup:

atmarcella
08-13-2007, 21:54
what is that under the handguard? bipod?

presidingglock,

me foundry sila dyan sa talisay, ang pangngalan rj&p phils.

Glock_19_9x19
08-13-2007, 22:45
That, I believe is the folding non-detachable bayonet. Ayos! :) Ang ganda

maomanila
08-14-2007, 00:59
Hi. How do you remove the bayonet? As in permanently remove? Parang sagabal kasi sa paghawak sa handguard.

Thanks.

bagito
08-14-2007, 05:05
Originally posted by Dok
i talked to one of sales reps ng twin pines about 2 weeks ago, they said that yung AK daw is now allowed for civilians. i don't know saan galing ang memo and why they change their policy regarding high power FAs

this is a very good news. magkano na AK2000 ngayon Dok? thanks

Dok
08-14-2007, 05:41
42K unit price

boni
08-14-2007, 09:20
Originally posted by Dok
42K unit price wow gud news yan pwede pala civvies maka ak47 ngayon. hehe baka we'll acquire nyan hindi na pang harvest but gamitin lng namin pang fence hehe nice ak47 you got there sir :):thumbsup:

CrossfireG30
08-14-2007, 11:04
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i talked to one of sales reps ng twin pines about 2 weeks ago, they said that yung AK daw is now allowed for civilians. i don't know saan galing ang memo and why they change their policy regarding high power FAs
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Sirs,

Maybe we can ask Sir Deenoh to confirm if they received the same info.

wunder9
08-14-2007, 11:10
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Bayo deployed.

wunder9
08-14-2007, 11:26
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Bayo folded.

presidingglock
08-15-2007, 00:46
Originally posted by maomanila
Hi. How do you remove the bayonet? As in permanently remove? Parang sagabal kasi sa paghawak sa handguard.

Thanks.

Drill or punch-out the rebit (don't know if this is the correct spelling), the silver thing that connects the bayonet to the mount.

Hope this helps.

jundeleon
08-15-2007, 00:49
is the ammo for the ak47 available here?

how much per round?

presidingglock
08-15-2007, 00:58
Originally posted by jundeleon
is the ammo for the ak47 available here?

how much per round?


Twin pines is selling it for P30 each.

vega
08-15-2007, 06:56
Originally posted by presidingglock
Twin pines is selling it for P30 each.
What brand? Wolf?

G19c,PH
08-15-2007, 07:46
Originally posted by vega
What brand? Wolf?


Tactical Edge yata by Twin Pines IIRC.

presidingglock
08-15-2007, 19:11
Yup, it's Tactical Edge.

CatsMeow
08-15-2007, 22:30
The AK selector will seem odd for us used to M16s. It makes a loud click and is SAFE-AUTO-SEMI, in that order. I handled an original Russian AK on display at a gun show in Manila some years ago. But it's a non-issue; 50 million made and still going strong, and the most soldier-proof rifle ever. So congrats on your new toy! I may go the same way if I can't get my hands on an M16 of my own. But with the folding stock Twin Pines also sells.:)

Now, if only Twin Pines can import a lot of Chinese steel-cased ball at appropriate prices, or offer one chambered in 5.56 mm! I read that the Chinese military no longer uses 7.62x39; they use some sort of proprietary small-bore cartridge similar to M855, with claimed body-armor penetrating capabilities, in a bullpup rifle they debuted at the 1997 HongKong takeover. So all those AK rounds to be had...

G19c,PH
08-16-2007, 02:02
Originally posted by CatsMeow
But with the folding stock Twin Pines also sells.:)





Same price 42K also?

juramentado
08-16-2007, 02:25
AFAIK, the ak47 was designed for motorized infantry, along the doctrine used by the Soviets since WWII, and apparently the rifle was designed for full auto more than semi auto. the russians traditionally favored submachine guns, along the lines of the PPSH-41. Trip talaga nila yung full auto..

The russians phased out the 7.62 round and favor of the 5.45. If only armscor or someone will buy the tooling to keep making the 7.62, and the ak47 is still sold at that low price. :)

CatsMeow
08-16-2007, 02:27
No, aftermarket, about 10k I think, looks like a FAL or Galil metal side-folding stock. The Chinese AK comes only with a wooden buttstock, I think.

Come to think of it, I saw at Twin Pines Makati Cinema Square a folding stock for an M14 as well. Two versions: the plastic for 5k which looks unacceptably crude, and the metal-and-wood for 10k.

wunder9
08-16-2007, 06:49
Twin also sold an underfolder version of the Type56. No folding bayo. Underfolders tend to wobble & hard to get good cheekweld.

kcboy
08-16-2007, 07:37
i hope i can save enough to get an ak2000...:banana:

horge
08-16-2007, 16:09
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Fellow BoG-members,

There has been no change in FED policy regarding HP rifles.
Approval of applications remains on a case-to-case basis,
directly approved by the Chief.

On that note, please consider the following points:

The more noise and public inquiries you make on this matter,
as if some sort of rush is on, or is imminent, the more likely
it is, that some "anti" with clout will dial their "Auntie"
in Malakanyang, asking that PNP-FED be ordered to clamp down,
or to stop licensing HP rifles altogether.

If you want to know what's actually available, and for how much,
calling the gun stores will get you the info direct, accurate,
and so much faster than wondering aloud on this thread.

Finally, keep in mind that registering and first-time licensing
an HP rifle is one thing. Take a moment to consider in private
the unpredictable legal context in which you will have to renew
the rifle's license regularly, over many, many years.

Thanks
:)
horge


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atmarcella
08-16-2007, 19:41
is that a real bayonet? as in sharp knife....or just a metal thingy?

presidingglock
08-16-2007, 20:41
Originally posted by atmarcella
is that a real bayonet? as in sharp knife....or just a metal thingy?

It's just a "metal thingy".

CatsMeow
08-16-2007, 21:58
The only purpose of the "thingy" is to stick or tuhog your opponent when you're out of ammo! The M16's M7 bayonet (got mine in Dau still in the wrap) is little better; not much use as a knife. A very good ice pick however!

maskytrading
08-20-2007, 22:55
Originally posted by presidingglock
It's just a "metal thingy".

It's a "spike" bayonet that they attach to type 56 chinese aks...your rifle is better than other assault rifles imo:) maybe even the best. btw, twin pines will be coming out with accessories so that you can mount whatever you want on it...and do you have a 75 round drum mag for your toy?

presidingglock
08-21-2007, 02:39
Originally posted by maskytrading
It's a "spike" bayonet that they attach to type 56 chinese aks...your rifle is better than other assault rifles imo:) maybe even the best. btw, twin pines will be coming out with accessories so that you can mount whatever you want on it...and do you have a 75 round drum mag for your toy?

That's good to know sir - I mean about the accessories. No, I don't have a drum mag although I saw one at Twinpines. I didn't buy it. It's just not for me.

boni
08-25-2007, 08:40
isang mayor dito na involve sa ambush daming ak47 binili. :)

Mang Danny
08-25-2007, 10:22
Tanong ko lang po. Yung bang AK-47 na binibenta diyan ay military issue or commercial copies?

isuzu
08-25-2007, 10:56
Originally posted by presidingglock
Twin pines is selling it for P30 each.

How much is a 5.56mm cost now?

isuzu
08-25-2007, 11:02
Originally posted by juramentado
The russians phased out the 7.62 round and favor of the 5.45. If only armscor or someone will buy the tooling to keep making the 7.62, and the ak47 is still sold at that low price. :)

The 7.62x39 will never dry up. With tens of millions of AKs using that ammo, manufacturers will still profit from making that round.

One reason of going into the small calibers aside from the number of rounds a person could carry is the price of metals. Metal prices have significantly gone up that the price difference between the 9mm and .45 ACP is just widening.

CatsMeow
08-25-2007, 23:48
I was in Twin Pines Cebu yesterday and there were two types of 7.62x39: the copper-washed steel cased round at P25 each (same as Armscor 5.56mm M193) and the brass-cased round at P30. Of course, the steel-cased round is usually Berdan-primed and thus non-reloadable, but I think the brass-cased may be, provided somebody somewhere has a set of reloading dies and components for this caliber, and has the patience to straighten out the dent in the side of the case from being hit by the AK's ejector.

CatsMeow
08-26-2007, 01:02
Originally posted by Mang Danny
Tanong ko lang po. Yung bang AK-47 na binibenta diyan ay military issue or commercial copies?

Military issue, called Type 56, the ones they used before they went to a rifle that kinda looks like an SKS with a shortened AK mag. After the latter rifle, they went to their new QBZ-95 bullpup with the new and proprietary 5.8mm cartridge.

They also widely exported the Type 56, a lot of which ended up in Afghanistan courtesy of the CIA.

The commercial model is semi-auto only, and often lacks the "thingy".

maskytrading
08-27-2007, 07:31
Originally posted by Mang Danny
Tanong ko lang po. Yung bang AK-47 na binibenta diyan ay military issue or commercial copies?

Yes, I think so...type 56 China with the Spike bayonet and with semi and full auto switches

CatsMeow
08-27-2007, 19:15
Now wouldn't it be too much to ask Twin Pines to import the QBZ-97, the 5.56mm version of the present Chinese service bullpup rifle? It takes M16 magazines.

The thing is, unlike modern bullpups, the QBZ-95 is right-hand ejection only. I got a magazine article (lent it to a police general and haven't gotten it back yet) that states that in China, left-handedness is actively discouraged from childhood, so they saw no need for left-shoulder fire capability.

isuzu
08-27-2007, 20:05
Originally posted by CatsMeow
Now wouldn't it be too much to ask Twin Pines to import the QBZ-97, the 5.56mm version of the present Chinese service bullpup rifle? It takes M16 magazines.

The thing is, unlike modern bullpups, the QBZ-95 is right-hand ejection only. I got a magazine article (lent it to a police general and haven't gotten it back yet) that states that in China, left-handedness is actively discouraged from childhood, so they saw no need for left-shoulder fire capability.

Too much paperwork and money just to import just one or several units. And the additional costs are usually passed on to the buyer.