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packinaglock
08-24-2007, 20:55
The Gangs here in WPB are getting bad ( no wonder I carry ) how are they in the rest of the state?

FLGlock30
08-25-2007, 10:05
Dont hear too much about them here in Central Florida. At least the media is not focusing on them. There is a lot of tagging in certain areas maybe should have this :50cal: for the car. We still have just a lot of homeless, drug addicts and shady characters. Some of my friends dont understand why I NEVER leave the house with out CCW. I wont take the trash out or walk the dogs. Better to be prepared then be without. Trying to avoid :ambulance:
stay safe

rvrctyrngr
08-25-2007, 11:16
We don't 'hear' much about gang-related activity around here in Jax....that doesn't mean they aren't here!

Mr. Blandings
08-26-2007, 00:43
The criminal street gang problem throughout Florida is bad and getting worse. The problem has become so serious that a Statewide Grand Jury was recently impaneled to investigate the issue >Attorney General link< (http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsreleases/D3073C03D76EDD048525732A00579449).

Odds are, wherever you are in Florida, you have two or more criminal street gangs in your area.

Here are some things to look for in your local news / police blotters:
Home invasions - most of the time are actually drug related robberies.
Random shootings, especially at a house - usually a gang related "drive-by".
Aggravated batteries (fights/beatings) involving groups of people - gang on gang violence.
Robbery of a business by three or more BadGuys - frequently a gang initiation or a gang related crime.

These events will usually not be reported by law enforcement as gang related initially. Often, after suspects are in custody, there may be a brief mention that the suspects are "affiliated" with a "clique" or a "set". This is usually buried in the third or fourth paragraph of the news story, and can be overlooked if you aren't watching for it.

>Here< (http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/gangs/fl.html) is a list of just some of the gangs in Florida that have been formally identified by the Florida Department of Corrections and the cities they are prevalent in. This is just one of 21 pages of information that Florida DOC has on gangs at >this link< (http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/gangs/index.html).

packinaglock
08-26-2007, 12:42
Holy crap Im glad im a heavily armed person, What really shocked me was that Okeechobee had 2 gangs what do they do hang out at the KOA and fish?

CTW
08-26-2007, 13:38
Getting real bad in Orlando. Every night robbery's,home invasions, ETC. I would say 85 percent are gang, or drug related. You just do not hear it from the media. If you go in a correctional facility and look at most of the young kids in there they are marked with alot of gang related tattos. It's really a shame.

Usingmyrights
08-26-2007, 18:05
Originally posted by rvrctyrngr
We don't 'hear' much about gang-related activity around here in Jax....that doesn't mean they aren't here!

Thats because our murder problem is due to racism and not gang/drug related.:upeyes:

MedicGlock
08-27-2007, 10:57
I am not sure where in Central Florida FLGlock30 is, but there are big gang problems in the Orange, Osceola, and Brevard counties. Orange, which CTW mentioned, has a high percentage of crime due to gang related as reported to me by my fiancée who works for the Orange County Sheriff Department Forensics Department. Here in Osceola, where I work with Fire Rescue, we have various communities like Buenaventura Lakes, Poinciana, and Kissimmee that have active various gangs. As a matter of fact, we have been warned by the department that the Poinciana gangs are actively looking to kill cops and firefighters. Osceola Sheriff Department has just started an abatement unit to cover up the gang related graffiti thru out the county. Brevard has surpassed last year’s murder rate, and is quickly catching up with Orlando.

FLGlock30
08-27-2007, 13:25
Medic, that stinks, be safe over there.

I am more located in the Oviedo, Geneva, Wintersprings area. Even around here the graffiti is getting worse. Problem with these gangbangers is that most of them are Juvies that have no concern for life. So as good law abiding citizens we need to keep practicing and Looking like grissle not Filet mignon. :)

CTW
08-27-2007, 13:37
I am in Lake county and it is just a matter of time before it flows over to us. It is already coming down 50 into Clermont area just a matter of time. You all stay safe out there.

JungleJim
08-27-2007, 22:52
Nothing gang related in my city, the rich kids pretending they are 'ghetto' can be entertaining. Driving Mommy & Daddy's $50K car kind of ruins their street cred though

MeanMike
08-28-2007, 16:13
Its bad all over florida. Gang bangers in Palm Beach, after committing big crimes, are often caught visiting their gang banger buddies that go to UCF in orlando and FAMU in Tallahasee.

Im a Law Enforcement officer in the Palm Beach County area, and I often point to these videos to show people just how about things are.

The more they record themselves, the more justification every law abiding citizen in the area has in taking one of their lives in self defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrucqUaaZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zraXRN2i4x8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ttVNTCUYFc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD4FFckPPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vINsNDIZzA8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_P0TOO-Rw

CTW
08-28-2007, 20:13
These videos are a good eye opener for the non beleivers out there. I have seen these videos courtesey of a friend who is a Broward LEO. If anyone has any doubt about how these people are then those videos are the cold hard truth. I hope after seing that people pay more attention to there surroundings. For the last three years I have dealt with these types with my job and it was a real wake up for me. I have always been pro gun,carry,etc, but now more than ever.

Usingmyrights
08-28-2007, 21:10
The problem is that they're getting off to easy. They need to close the revolving doors at the jail.

CTW
08-29-2007, 03:17
Originally posted by Usingmyrights
The problem is that they're getting off to easy. They need to close the revolving doors at the jail.


You are so right alot of times when I see some one in for murder I pull up their past and they have prior violent charges. All they get is a slap on the wrist. These people have no business being in society.

packinaglock
08-29-2007, 10:29
All I can say is may God have your ( LEO'S ) backs when ya'll come into contact with these thugs. A couple of monthes ago I was working right outside that neighborhood off Tamarin ave. It is really ugly over there.

Kingslayer
08-29-2007, 14:05
We've got a really bad gang problem down here in Port Charlotte too. The good news is that they only show up during the winter but the bad news is that they drive really slow...

packinaglock
08-29-2007, 17:30
Originally posted by Kingslayer
We've got a really bad gang problem down here in Port Charlotte too. The good news is that they only show up during the winter but the bad news is that they drive really slow...
Oh no the Blue Hair's

johncinjax
08-29-2007, 18:21
gangs in jax?..there here.

keith56
08-29-2007, 18:33
Originally posted by MeanMike
The more they record themselves, the more justification every law abiding citizen in the area has in taking one of their lives in self defense.

Who taught baboons to talk and what language where they speaking?

FlaChef
08-31-2007, 00:20
OK I hate to say this, but I can see where after watching videos like that the gun grabbers (and more importantly the sheeple who listen to them) get their beleifs.

I don't want those guys having guns either I'm just not foolish enough to think that adding more hoops to gun buying will stop them.

But I do want to start carrying extra ammo on me, instead of just my 5 in the cylinder after seeing that.

It's images like these (can you even count the number of safety rule violations) that we as responsible gun owners have to try to fight by setting the good example and educating people wherever we find an open mind.

MeanMike
08-31-2007, 06:01
Originally posted by FlaChef
OK I hate to say this, but I can see where after watching videos like that the gun grabbers (and more importantly the sheeple who listen to them) get their beleifs.

I don't want those guys having guns either I'm just not foolish enough to think that adding more hoops to gun buying will stop them.

But I do want to start carrying extra ammo on me, instead of just my 5 in the cylinder after seeing that.

It's images like these (can you even count the number of safety rule violations) that we as responsible gun owners have to try to fight by setting the good example and educating people wherever we find an open mind.

Because many of the state's attorneys are so weak and nolle pros many of the cases presented to them... quite a few of them carry VALID Florida CCW permits...

Belzelbub
08-31-2007, 10:59
Originally posted by FlaChef
(can you even count the number of safety rule violations)
Too many to count, and I came to expect that from the first video. I was actually surprised to see one put his finger alongside the trigger.

Hanoi_Sig
08-31-2007, 14:56
What do they get I just don't get why do youngins join gangs!.

orangedawg19
08-31-2007, 15:26
Nothing like a Florida CHL.

Usingmyrights
08-31-2007, 19:54
I learned a little something about gangbangers today. The reason why they hold the gun sideways is thats because thats how it came out of the box.

packinaglock
08-31-2007, 20:19
Actually, working on a building right next to that neighborhood I watched the video's and recognised a couple of the thugs on them because I drive by them to and from work. Luckily I actually live about 20 miles west of that crap hole.

Droanx
09-02-2007, 19:21
Having grown up in WPB and now living in the Orlando area.... yes FL has a lot of gangs. One of my closest friends is a deputy in PB Co. at the jail. He told me that there are around 300 documented gangs in PBC alone. (I forget the exact number but it was high)

I have a fond memory of driving through Tamarin at night. NOT fun at all this was before I carried.

Then I remember taking my wife to the hospital in Orlando and missing an exit. I had to drive through a rough area. Saw a lot of activity. My Glock in my holster was comforting but not much. Having a sick wife and passing through that area was very troubling....

hardd1
09-03-2007, 08:15
There is a definite presence here in Lee county (Ft Myers). I read the morning headlines: 3 men in a car found dead (shot) in Lehigh Acres on a rural city street.A Lee county detective quotes the men all in their 30's died as the result of a homicidal act. This raises the 2007 homicides to 20 in unincorporated Lee county alone. Also a day doesn't go by without reading that another 'growhouse' is raided here. Funny thing though...all of the people arrested for the illegal pot growing have Hispanic names...probably just a coincidence. Robbers also shot and killed a Hess gas attendant this past week during a hold up. The young man did not resist and was a victim of these animals. In another unrelated robbery, a Shell attendent was shot in the back by a bastard after complying to his demands. Violent criminals(gangs) are on the loose throughout Florida thanks to all of the liberal judges ..........:soap:...I could go on and on........

rvrctyrngr
09-03-2007, 08:41
I grew up in Ft. Myers...The only things we had to worry about were the 'gangs' of blue-hairs with out of state plates clogging the roads from Thanksgiving to Easter.

FlaChef
09-04-2007, 10:41
Originally posted by Hanoi_Sig
What do they get I just don't get why do youngins join gangs!.

money, repsect (so they think anyway), and a "family" to "belong" to are the real draws for the young.

I remember the series in one of the palm beach papers about the alarming number "adjudication witheld" plea bargains that leave these guys with no felonies on record so they still have all their gun rights. SCARY!!!:crazy:

tc2129
09-10-2007, 08:41
Northwest Florida has some minor gang activity. Though we do have the middle class white kids that think they are bangers, which is probably worse. The majority of the problems on the street now seem to stem from the few New Orleans refugees that have migrated this way and stayed.
Mostly what we encounter now though is an increase in the homeless population due to Katrina and an increase in the Mexican popluation.
The homeless are usually too drunk to mess with you and EMS deals with them more than any other people. The Mexicans seem to stick to themselves. Though we did have one that was bound with duct tape, beaten, then had a dog released on him. That stemmed from a bad drug deal.

packinaglock
09-13-2007, 18:32
Today 9/13/07 one LEO dead and three others injured in Miami. Ill bet it comes out this thug is a gangster. This is a shame They are nothing more than homegrown terrorists and should be treated as such.

MedicGlock
09-13-2007, 21:49
I haven't heard any info if the Miami shooter was in a gang or not.

However, tonight on the local 6 news, here in Orlando, there was a story about the new graffiti gangs are using. The gangs have gone high tech by using MySpace to display their guns, money, drugs, and symbols.

Theblackwulf
09-14-2007, 10:12
It's interesting, WFLX "Palm Beach" posted a survey on their site. The survey consists of "Do you think stricter gun controls could have prevented this?" It's pathetic I can't wait to see the results later.
How many people realize that gun control laws only effect legal firearm owners? They can require every firearm reguardless of caliber to be registered, SN recorded, and the owner would have to have to register with the local sheriffs dept. They can limit firearms to the point that the most you can legally buy is a 1 shot .22. Will that stop the standard thug from getting an unregistered knock off ak with the serials filed from outside of the state? Or will it prevent the standard citizen from protecting themselves when the same thug decides that he wants your car, your tv, or whatever he can find.
I hate anti-gun pansies.

MeanMike
09-14-2007, 12:18
Originally posted by MedicGlock
I haven't heard any info if the Miami shooter was in a gang or not.

However, tonight on the local 6 news, here in Orlando, there was a story about the new graffiti gangs are using. The gangs have gone high tech by using MySpace to display their guns, money, drugs, and symbols.

theyve actually been doing that for years here in palm beach county. They also use it to promote their "music", claiming they arent gang members, its merely their rap group.

packinaglock
09-27-2007, 18:48
I was talking to my son's football coach the other night he is a DEA agent and he said the Haitian gangs are the most ruthless is that the general concences Mean Mike?

G20man32904
09-27-2007, 19:37
Originally posted by MedicGlock
Brevard has surpassed last year’s murder rate, and is quickly catching up with Orlando.

Medic,
Do have a link to show that? I would like to share with my family here in Brevard.
Thanks and stay safe!

rvrctyrngr
09-27-2007, 19:52
Originally posted by packinaglock
I was talking to my son's football coach the other night he is a DEA agent and he said the Haitian gangs are the most ruthless is that the general concences Mean Mike?

Wasn't that a Steven Segal movie???? :animlol:

rich52us
09-27-2007, 20:44
Originally posted by rvrctyrngr
Wasn't that a Steven Segal movie???? :animlol:

Screw Face and his posse were Jamaican.

noway
09-27-2007, 22:19
PBCH has a big influence of Haitian gangs so does most of the North Miami to central Dade county. They are in the drug trades and fighting the blacks in their primary black neighborhoods trying to establish turf and dominance.


Right now in comparison between the older establish typical black gangs, ( gangster nation, disciples, crips and blood, ) and the latin kings, the younger haitianos are stirring up alot of dust and leaving no prisoners or witness. Most if not all crimes starts and end with drugs or the offing of drug dealers.


The problem with them, ( speaking of somebody who use to live in a dominant haitian community and is part Haitian ) they have no respect for life, no fear of the police, and have years of violence in the homelands of Haiti over the last 2+ decades of violence mainly in Port au Prince & Gonaives. So stirring up some dust in the good ole USA is nothing and walk in the part. Even if they get picked up and not found guilty, if they are illegal they go right back to Haiti to re-establish old ties and come right back over meaner and smarter.


One thing about the Haitians people and the gangs, there crimes are low keyed and the people live a simple low key life. So alot goes down with little public attention. Unless you live in the Haitian quartier, you have no clue on what up or down.

sx-al
09-28-2007, 06:35
Check this on Haitian gangs

http://www.local10.com/news/14061149/detail.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/broward/story/251800.html

I would have posted the links to these boys "myspace.com" pages but the webpages all have porn on them. google the zopound name and you will get links to all the gangbangers showing off on the net.

GlockPride
09-28-2007, 07:37
So many thoughts:

-Isn't there more to llife than drugs, $, guns and sex???

-I think more juvies are joining gangs b/c if you don't you'll be a victim. If you do join, you greatly increase your victim chances. So why not belong? More gangs=faster sign-up rate for even MORE gangs?

-If you think the govt will protect you-look at how the police and communities cannot even solve crimes or keep the "my ni***&S" off the street.

-POST SHTF-this is what you WILL be dealing with. The police, nat. guard, state police, etc will be busy. These animals are well-organized, equipped, trained, control their AO, etc. There will be a power pull and struggle and these clowns could win in many areas.

-What is the answer with these monsters? There are in many places across the US, not just Florida. They are in FL, CA, TX, LA, NY, IL, OH, MO, KS, AR, even NV. There is no getting away from them at this point unless you live in AK(maybe). Do we equip and arm the police like the army and have them take these gangsters out??? Me thinks maybe.

-These hooligans unfortunately have no conscience or qualms about killing, protecting their turf, takin' yo biatch, shuttin' up a snitch, wanting your hard-earned goods, etc. I hate to say it but walking away from these in a confrontation only encourages and excites them. The only thing they understand is a bullet. Be prepared to defend yourself and have a POA when confronted on the street b/c sooner or later you'll probably find yourself faced with these thugs.

-This makes me want to sign up as a PO and tackle this problem head on. This problem could very well be bigger than Iraq, Middle East, Al qaida, etc. For $ do you think these jokers wouldn't help out a terrorist group? They are already ones themselves. Remember, these people don't vote, don't work, don't support soctiety. They want to control the flow of money thru illegitimate means, whatever means necessary. Most have already killed, raped, tortured, beaten women, shot at people, etc. What is helping a terrorist group that only wants to harm USA, but ultimately could give the gangs the power? Al qaida only wants to hurt us and the gangs want to control us. Nothing but ultimate submission will do for them. They overwhelm and completely antagonize and control almost everyone in their AO.

-Utterly scary the thoughts of the individuals. Good uses for bullet traps out of the end of a nice AR!

avmech
09-28-2007, 07:41
For what its worth: the survey on WFLX came out 62% DID NOT THINK more gun control would help.................the results surprised me in a good way

rvrctyrngr
09-28-2007, 08:04
Originally posted by rich52us
Screw Face and his posse were Jamaican.

Yep. Segal was DEA, and the guy who went after the gang with him was a HS football coach! Just kinda struck me funny.

GlockPride, I can't disagree with anything in your post. Even in my little 'sterile' 'hood, things are getting interesting. The demarcation line is moving closer and closer.

I've finally made it clear to my wife that carrying is no longer an OPTION or casual endeavor for her, and that she must take it much more seriously. We bought her a new G19 to go with the G26 she always has with her (not necessarilly ON her), and she's taking her first 'real' training class in November. She's a manager for a 5-star hotel here, and works some crazy hours. She has to go through a not-so-nice area to get home. More than once I've gone to her hotel at O-dark-early to make sure she made it home safe.

We definitely are living in interesting times.

packinaglock
09-28-2007, 18:27
Good post Glockpride, I agree 100%

MedicGlock
09-28-2007, 19:07
G20man,

No, I don't have a link. It was on the news, either Orlando WFTV News 9 or Local 6 since those are the only ones I watch. They showed the stats right after the Brevard CSIs got shot at while working a crime scene.

Hope this helps...

SkaOG
10-01-2007, 20:02
I'm in Orlando, and A few peole have already said it, but Central Florida has a growing Gang Problem. But so does most of Florida

tc2129
10-10-2007, 15:15
In response to GlockPride's post, I recently saw in the news the story about the Liberty City 7. They thought they were going to work for al-queda. Pretty scary if you really sit and think that street gangs would work with foreign terrorists.

packinaglock
10-10-2007, 20:01
Well are gangs are just homegrown terrorists they fit arm and arm with alquida