Kahr longevity?

[MPA249]

I am looking for a CCW gun and a Kahr K9 or P9 are on the short list. I have a Glock 17 right now. I could go with a 19 and share alot of stuff between them or go with a smaller lighter gun. The k9 is almost as haevy and as big as a G19 although considerably thinner. I have shot both a while back and had a K9 Elite 98 a long time ago which I regret getting rid of.

Short short of it all is what is the average life span of a P9 shooting a fairly steady diet of 124gr +P's (about 2K a year)??

[juggy4711]

I'm not sure why you would shoot 2k rnds of +P through it a year. Seems like some 115 grain FMJ would be a decent plinking/practice round. From what I've read most folks only shoot the +P in limited amounts and load it for SD ammo, but shoot something else the majority of the time.

[JimBianchi]

My MK9 is doing great! Lots of rounds down the tube, trouble free.

I'll bet my life it lasts long enough to shoot anyone dumb enough to try and hurt or rob me or my family!

:banana:

[MPA249]

2K would be the absolute most I would shoot. I would shoot non +P's most of the time of course but I do need to rotate my ammo... ;)

[NewsShooter]

I have heard that the life of Kahrs poly framed guns are only 6 to 10k rounds. A K9 will just be getting warmed up.

[stewywerf]

Originally posted by NewsShooter
I have heard that the life of Kahrs poly framed guns are only 6 to 10k rounds. A K9 will just be getting warmed up.

I know people that have well over 10,000 rounds through their PM9 and their guns are not showing major wear. They have replaced their recoil spring and magazine springs just as a precaution.

[Famous1]

My K-9 has around 11,000 through it and only had two malfunctions , on failure to feed and one failure to extract both happened after 8,000 rounds ,, i carry the gun and practice with it every week best gun i have ever owned ..slide is still tight still groups around 2 inches at 15 yards and around 2.5 at 25 yards ..night sights still glowing strong .. have replaced the recoil spring once and the magazine spring once.. other than that keep it clean and it will live forever ..

[3putter]

Originally posted by NewsShooter
I have heard that the life of Kahrs poly framed guns are only 6 to 10k rounds. A K9 will just be getting warmed up.

Where did you "hear" that. It simply is not true!

[BackDraft]

Over 25,000 rounds thru my E-9

[comeandtakeit]

I know people that have well over 10,000 rounds through their PM9 and their guns are not showing major wear. They have replaced their recoil spring and magazine springs just as a precaution.

Bull****!

[Kyglock22]

Originally posted by comeandtakeit
Bull****!


You obviously have not been around many Kahr pistols then. My neighbors PM9 has nearly 8000 rounds through his, and shows very minimum wear.... which is exactly the same with my cousins TP9 that has well over 12000 rounds through it.

[The Reach]

I know people that have well over 10,000 rounds through their PM9 and their guns are not showing major wear. They have replaced their recoil spring and magazine springs just as a precaution.

Originally posted by comeandtakeit
Bull****!

If you find that statement hard to believe, how many rds do YOU have through your PM9?

Experience talks,
BULL**** runs the marathon.

[MPA249]

Just picked up a used P9 Covert from a buddy of mine. He put a couple hundred rounds through it and it appears to be in great shape. I plan on shooting it a bit. I really like it. If it works out well I may purchase a new P9 and send it off to get the crip chopped. Standard sight radius and I have the shorter grip for easier concealed carry. I like it.

[comeandtakeit]

If you find that statement hard to believe, how many rds do YOU have through your PM9?

None through a PM9 but about 300 throught the PM40 I had. It was the biggest pos I have ever owned. It never worked, the frame cracked and it never seemed to return to battery without help. It was nothing more that a $700 paper weight. I am glad you all have 100,000 rounds through your Kahrs thats awesome!! You must have the special models that don't peen and return to battery. I wish Kahr sold more of those models but they don't. Just take a look around your club. It's full of awsome reviews of Kahr products and how well they work!! :okie:

[Famous1]

Originally posted by comeandtakeit
None through a PM9 but about 300 throught the PM40 I had. It was the biggest pos I have ever owned. It never worked, the frame cracked and it never seemed to return to battery without help. It was nothing more that a $700 paper weight. I am glad you all have 100,000 rounds through your Kahrs thats awesome!! You must have the special models that don't peen and return to battery. I wish Kahr sold more of those models but they don't. Just take a look around your club. It's full of awsome reviews of Kahr products and how well they work!! :okie:


the percentage of Kahr owners who have problems is almost identical to glocks,1911's,and almost any other firearm out their right now ..my guess would be for every 10,000 guns produced that 5 or six might have problems .. could Kahr lower that number? I am sure they could by adding a couple of test steps in the final process such as test fire of every single gun and a feed test wich could be done by firing three rounds instead of the single test fire .. but by and large i would say most Kahr owners are very happy with the guns they have purchased. i have Nine, have never had much of a problem with any of them ,one magazine was out of spec and caused feed problems on my p45 other than that no problems ..

[The Reach]

Originally posted by comeandtakeit
None through a PM9 but about 300 throught the PM40 I had. It was the biggest pos I have ever owned. It never worked, the frame cracked and it never seemed to return to battery without help. It was nothing more that a $700 paper weight. I am glad you all have 100,000 rounds through your Kahrs thats awesome!! You must have the special models that don't peen and return to battery. I wish Kahr sold more of those models but they don't. Just take a look around your club. It's full of awsome reviews of Kahr products and how well they work!! :okie:

There's no shortage of people bashing the G27 on GT, but I have had ZERO problems with mine. Maybe you should have sent it back before writing it off. Even the biggest and best handgun makers turn out a dud from time to time. It's no secret that Kahr packs a lot into a tight package, and the possibility for trouble is certainly there, but it is still the BEST CCW for all-day carry bar none. My MK40 out performs my G27 in every category except for printing.

[Colorado4Wheel]

Originally posted by comeandtakeit
None through a PM9 but about 300 throught the PM40 I had. It was the biggest pos I have ever owned. It never worked, the frame cracked and it never seemed to return to battery without help. It was nothing more that a $700 paper weight. I am glad you all have 100,000 rounds through your Kahrs thats awesome!! You must have the special models that don't peen and return to battery. I wish Kahr sold more of those models but they don't. Just take a look around your club. It's full of awsome reviews of Kahr products and how well they work!! :okie:

So you managed to go 100 rds past the break in period and give up. If I spent $700 on a gun I would preserver a little bit past a $25 box of ammo.

I have well over 1000 rds through my TP9. I have a box of 4000 9mm bullets and I am only partially through that box. I probably at about 1500-2000 actual total rds. Not really sure. I malfunction during the break in period.

[comeandtakeit]

Until Kahr makes a product that works I'll spend my money elsewhere. I don't have the time or energy to tinker with a gun that doesn't work. It's that simple...

[stewywerf]

Originally posted by Famous1
the percentage of Kahr owners who have problems is almost identical to glocks,1911's,and almost any other firearm out their right now ..my guess would be for every 10,000 guns produced that 5 or six might have problems .. could Kahr lower that number? I am sure they could by adding a couple of test steps in the final process such as test fire of every single gun and a feed test which could be done by firing three rounds instead of the single test fire .. but by and large i would say most Kahr owners are very happy with the guns they have purchased. i have Nine, have never had much of a problem with any of them ,one magazine was out of spec and caused feed problems on my p45 other than that no problems ..

Ditto that. If you go on almost any message board you are going to find vitriol about the gun at hand. Usually the only people that post are people that are having problems or people in need of help. The amount of negative posts are going to be skewed in the negative direction.

You have to run enough ammo through the weapon to be comfortable and confident in it. I personally saw my friends' PM9s. They shoot almost every weekend. They made me a believer and after getting one myself, I'm now a believer. After reading your post I went to the range and now I'm up to 2000 rounds through mine.

Go get your Kahr fixed. Brush off the problem. Shoot the heck out of it and rebuild confidence in it. I'm sure your opinion will change over time when you find how comfortable it is to carry and how reliable it is.

If you name me a somewhat popular gun, I can almost guarantee that I can find you a list of problems that people have had with it. Every gun goes through some growing pains. Some people are just bitter and they like to bash other guns. I think it is because they are just jealous at heart.

[ellipsis]

Originally posted by comeandtakeit
Until Kahr makes a product that works I'll spend my money elsewhere. I don't have the time or energy to tinker with a gun that doesn't work. It's that simple...

Why on earth would you "tinker" with something that has a warranty? Put your "I can fix it myself" ego aside and send it back to the company to make it right. You may have income to buy things and get rid of them at a loss when they don't work...me, I take advantage of the company's commitment to stand behind their product and end up with things right in the end...