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IH8Q8
08-29-2007, 14:50
Greetings! My name is Fred. I am an American expatriate living in Kuwait. On September 1st, I will be visiting the Philippines to finally get married to my fiance of two and a half years. While I am visiting, I would love to take her and my soon-to-be niece in-law shooting. My question is, how do I go about doing this?

I will be in Manila for a few days upon my arrival to do some paperwork at my Embassy, then I think we will be traveling to a resort town (whose name escapes me right now, maybe Bagio, or something similar?) to visit with family, then up to Illocos Norte to prepare and have the ceremony.

If anyone has any ideas on where I may take these ladies to teach them the joys of shooting, please help me out. It should be someplace that has rental firearms, as of course I will have none of mine with me. Also, I would love it if perhaps I could run into a few of my fellow Glock Talkers while I am there, so if any of you have regularly scheduled meets, let me know!

Thanks for your help, and God Bless!

Fred

3kings
08-29-2007, 15:29
there is armscor shooting range in makati and marikina that have rental guns. where in manila will you be staying? so more or less we can guide you which range is nearest your place

IH8Q8
08-29-2007, 15:32
Hmmm...good question. I did not think to ask what area my kuya's house is! I think I will have to get back to you on that. Right now my asawa is sleeping off her 12 hour bus ride back from Illocos, so I will check tomorrow.

Thanks for the help, sir! Now, what is Armscor?

Toledo
08-29-2007, 16:12
Sir,
Armscor is an arms manufacturer in the Philippines.
All kinds of info on the net & here in this forum.
Good luck on your trip...I'm Pinoy but based in Wash DC area.
I was just back there in the Philippines last April but
didnt get the chance to try any of the ranges. Stay safe on your
trip & just be yourself. Youll be fine. Make sure to try the
Balut..he, he.

vega
08-29-2007, 16:31
Hi, welcome to BOGs.

I'm pretty sure there are ranges in Ilocos Norte. We have one member here, Niven I think who is Ilocos Norte based. \

tagaykoyan
08-29-2007, 16:33
here's some info regarding Armscor shooting ranges:
http://www.armscorshootingranges.com/ranges/

when i brought my brother in law (also an American) to Armscor last may, we were advised that there's a special rate for foreigners. i paid $50, which includes 50 rounds of ammo. pretty ridiculous, but i had to suck it up because my bro in law was looking forward to the experience (he's a new yorker who hasn't fired a gun before)

my suggestion is for you to go to BOGs-friendly ranges where there's a good chance that this stupid special-rate-for-foreigners thing can be waived. i'm thinking of Firepower (operated by a very nice and accomodating engineer) and WSC (owner is a BoGster and pinoyguns.com member)

9MX
08-29-2007, 17:33
IH8Q8,

Welcome. If you have asian looks and can speak tagalog or taglish, then act like a pinoy to avoid the ridiculous charges;)

PMMA97
08-29-2007, 18:07
Mabuhay ang bagong kasal! :supergrin:

Do all your paperworks and marriage thingies first then think of shooting.

Getting a traditional marriage in Ilocos is not a walk in the park. Get ready for a week long celebration and the whole barrio on your doorstep for free booze. :supergrin:

I'm just kidding. Welcome to BoGs.

G19c,PH
08-29-2007, 20:08
:welcome: to BOGs

You could drop by Eagles shooting range in Clark Airbase on your way to Baguio.

Duckman1975
08-29-2007, 20:15
Have to warn you, you will be drunk be for and after the wedding. Be prepared be very prepared;)

revo
08-29-2007, 21:50
Originally posted by IH8Q8
Greetings! My name is Fred. I am an American expatriate living in Kuwait. On September 1st, I will be visiting the Philippines to finally get married to my fiance of two and a half years.

Uh..oh..

Do you know the one about St Peter and the Pinoy husbands ?

IH8Q8
08-29-2007, 22:44
Oh, hell, you are starting to scare me!

I don't think that we are getting to traditional with the wedding, but I may be mistaken. I know I am being coerced into wearing a Barong Tagolog, but I think the ceremony will be mild. The decision for Ilocos Norte was because of the location; nice resort close to her home where she grew up. I am a rather quiet person, and hoping for something sedate, myself. It is, however, her day, not mine. I do not drink, either, so that may be a good thing. If the whole baryo shows up on my door, that might be a good time to start drinking...

3Kings, We will be staying at Vito Cruz, Manila. Then Bagio City for a while, then Laoag, Ilocos Norte.

9mx, I don't think I will fit the picture. Six foot Italian at 135kg with hair down his back and tattoos? Hmmm....maybe not! The language may be a stretch, too. I am trying (desperately!) to learn Tagolog with the assistance of Rosetta Stone language lessons, but I hit a wall weeks ago and the asawa has been at home for two months. Oops!

(Hey, Toledo, I'm not Sir, that was my dad! I'm not old enough for that yet. Just Fred, please!)

Tagaykoyan (and Toledo), thanks for the hears up on the arms manufacturer. That is a crazy price! I will admit I have never paid to shoot yet, as I am blessed with a buddy who has a range. But $50? Talaga? That's nuts! Well, it does include the rental gun, but still. Now, I shall investigate PinoyGuns too. Didn't know about that, thanks!

PMMA97, Salamat! That means alot to me, brother. Perhaps pray for her, though? I don't think she knows what she is getting into yet, even after two years! Poor girl. We live a calm life in Kuwait, because there is nothing to do, but at home I am a trucker, biker, and shooter. She should be scared, very scared! :supergrin:

G19c,ph thank you for that suggestion. Is this someplace my girls can get into, or is it restricted? I think I will be looking for someplace close to a home-base, though.

Revo, I am almost scared to ask! :shocked:

To all of you, thank you for the warm welcome! I hope that perhaps I can run into some of you. Let me know if ideas pop into your head on places I can go. Salamat po!

IH8Q8
08-29-2007, 22:49
Dear Lord, Armscor wants $100 now! I think I will stay clear of that one! Their rates are posted on the website. Yikes!

:outtahere:

edited to add; Hey, G19c, I am re-thinking your suggestion after seeing the range pics on pinoyguns.com. Wow, nice place!

Also, 3Kings, are you the same 3Kings in the pics of the shooting competition at Eagle there at Clarks?

Fred

chowchow
08-29-2007, 23:28
$50 , tagain ang presyo na yan. That is way outrageous. Run.

IH8Q8
08-29-2007, 23:34
Originally posted by chowchow
$50 , tagain ang presyo na yan. That is way outrageous. Run.

Hey, Chowchow, no fair making me break out the translator! I get the hint, though, you are right. I won't be going there either.

9MX
08-29-2007, 23:50
Originally posted by IH8Q8
9mx, I don't think I will fit the picture. Six foot Italian at 135kg with hair down his back and tattoos? Hmmm....maybe not! The language may be a stretch, too. I am trying (desperately!) to learn Tagolog with the assistance of Rosetta Stone language lessons, but I hit a wall weeks ago and the asawa has been at home for two months. Oops!

(

uh oh, better steer clear of armscor then

VICARA
08-30-2007, 01:17
If you will be staying in Laoag, try visit Fort Ilocandia, a 30-min ride (depending on the time of the day) from the city proper. They have outdoor pistol range, not far from the hotel. And yes, they have rentals, just make sure the pistol is safe to shoot. I'm sure the price is way cheaper than $50.00.

You and the 'asawa' can stay for the night and take a chance at their casino; if you don't drink then checkout their live band at one of their clubs. Of course you can always change your mind and try their 'basi'.
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Tell your wife while you're dining, a low whisper into her ears: "Ay-ayatenka unay, baket"...then hand in the diamond!
:supergrin:

Welcome to BOGs!

chowchow
08-30-2007, 01:27
Originally posted by IH8Q8
Hey, Chowchow, no fair making me break out the translator! I get the hint, though, you are right. I won't be going there either.

Maybe the best way is let a fellow glocker buy ammo (give them the dough) and you all can shoot . No need to rent. I m sure a lot of glockers here will offer.

3kings
08-30-2007, 04:38
Originally posted by IH8Q8


Also, 3Kings, are you the same 3Kings in the pics of the shooting competition at Eagle there at Clarks?

Fred

yup thats me. when the smell of gunpowder is in the air, expect me to follow it ;)

btw, i heard there is a shooting range at fort ilocandia. a couple of years ago my buddy roadster shoot some ARs there

saki1611
08-30-2007, 06:38
welcome to BOG and to our beloved country, the Philippines!:welcome:

batangueno
08-30-2007, 06:46
:welcome: to the BOG

tagaykoyan
08-30-2007, 06:47
Originally posted by IH8Q8
Dear Lord, Armscor wants $100 now! I think I will stay clear of that one! Their rates are posted on the website. Yikes!

:outtahere:

edited to add; Hey, G19c, I am re-thinking your suggestion after seeing the range pics on pinoyguns.com. Wow, nice place!

Also, 3Kings, are you the same 3Kings in the pics of the shooting competition at Eagle there at Clarks?

Fred

yep, its $100 actually, but i was able to haggle the price down to $50. and my bro-in-law is also an italian-american, so there's no way he could've pretended to be a local:supergrin:

chowchow
08-30-2007, 08:07
I dont understand why they have to have separate rates for foreigners, thats a bummer. I m sure its intended mostly to Japs, ROK and ROC citizens who have strict gun laws in their own countries, have too much dough in their hands and they want to experience the shooting sports. Phils is the nearest place to be. I hope you meet some glockers here, just take care of ammo expense and enjoy in some country farm. Good luck.

IH8Q8
09-05-2007, 05:28
Hello, again, brothers! I have arrived in the Philippines and will be traveling to Pampanga tomorrow to visit the Eagle range at Clark. Unfortunately, I find that I have some additional questions.

First, what are their hours of operation? I can't find any info on their website.

Second, am I remembering correctly that they have rental firearms and ammo for sale? Anyone know the scope of what they rent?

Third, anyone else want to join us? :) I think we will be leaving Vito Cruz, Manila around 0600. That should put us there at around 0800-0900. We'll probably grab some food and head to the Range, unless you advise me otherwise.

I should have been smart enough to ask about this earlier, huh? I guess excitement got too me.

Thanks, guys!

Fred Malito

Smart number 09 285925822

G19c,PH
09-05-2007, 07:26
1.sorry no idea
2.IIRC they have glocks,1911 STI,Para ord,M4's,shotguns(correct me if im wrong)
3.For dinner try the mongolian barbeque at the roof top of Holiday Inn.

IH8Q8
09-05-2007, 15:12
Originally posted by G19c,PH
For dinner try the mongolian barbeque at the roof top of Holiday Inn.

Thank you, Sir, will do!

I was able to call last night at what I considered a ridiculous hour and got a very nice lady to give me the details on everything else. Thanks everyone for your help, and I hope perhaps I can meet some of you there! We're gone.

Fred

CatsMeow
09-05-2007, 19:35
Originally posted by IH8Q8
Hello, again, brothers! I have arrived in the Philippines and will be traveling to Pampanga tomorrow to visit the Eagle range at Clark. Unfortunately, I find that I have some additional questions.

First, what are their hours of operation? I can't find any info on their website.

Second, am I remembering correctly that they have rental firearms and ammo for sale? Anyone know the scope of what they rent?

Third, anyone else want to join us? :) I think we will be leaving Vito Cruz, Manila around 0600. That should put us there at around 0800-0900. We'll probably grab some food and head to the Range, unless you advise me otherwise.

I should have been smart enough to ask about this earlier, huh? I guess excitement got too me.

Thanks, guys!

Fred Malito

Smart number 09 285925822

Hi! If you happen to be in Cebu City, you're welcome to use my G19 and my allotment of 100 rounds of factory FMJ (I shoot nothing else).:)

Toledo
09-06-2007, 04:47
Hey IH8Q8,
Glad you made it there. I wish I could be there right now.
I do hope you can make it to Cebu, my home province.
Good luck and have fun--and stay safe.

IH8Q8
09-08-2007, 06:42
Hey, guys!

I wanted to take a brief moment (I'm at an internet cafe in Baguio right now) to tell you all thanks for the assistance, and especially salamat po to all of you who sent me text messages the other day. Your support is very much appreciated!

Weng and I, along with her cousins Kuya Tony and Ate Lanie, located Clark and the Eagle's club with no difficulty at all. However, I must say that the ride from the bus station to the taxi congregating area was quite a spectacle...ever seen a 300lb man in a tricycle? Hmmm...poor bastard. At least it wasn't a pedicab!

We met with Randy when we arrived, and found him to be extremely helpful. He hooked us up with a G17, a Colt M-4, and later an M14. Randy gave a brief lesson to Weng, and luckily he was smart enough to stand close by and only load one round at a time in the mag; at the sound of her first shot, Weng about took off running! It got better as she grew more confident, and Randy was fantastic.

I found that I was a terrible shot with the 17, not having fired for about two years now. Randy must have thought I was a newbie (I was, after all, shooting like one!) as he hovered over me like a mother hen. A little annoying at first, until he noticed and corrected a grip problem I had. At that point I forgot my irritation, humbled myself, and allowed the master to teach. Good thing, too; my shooting improved drastically with his assistance!

Now, imagine my surprise when we pick up the M4, and he gives me a briefing on it (I had already told him I was experienced on this one) that included the correct use of the selector switch. You mean the safety, Randy? No, IT HAD A GIGGLE SWITCH! Holy Mary, mother of God, I was holding my first automatic rifle! Praise be to the patron saints of Gunpowder.

So, my day brightened appreciably. The M-4 was a hoot to shoot, though I found it to have considerably more recoil than my RRA model. Probably needed some overhaul, as it had a few mis-feeds and failure to extracts, but who cares? IT WAS FULL AUTO!

I found myself to be a great shot with that carbine, but the ACOG might have had something to do with it. When he asked if I wanted to try the 7.62 he had available, but didn't answer what it was (language barrier), I shrugged my shoulders, thinking, I've got plenty of 7.62 stuff. Big deal. He took the shrug as a yes, and told his runner to fetch the M14. Oh, I said, grinning from ear to ear? M14? I didn't need a translator for that!

This one was pretty much stock, with open irons. We put up some 5" steel plates at 100m, and once I realized the sights were off a hair to the left, I was able to hit them with not problem. The M-4 was a little tricky; I couldn't get 'em with an controlled shot to save my life. However, with quick pop-shots, I could take all three out with three shots in next to no time. Of course, there was always the giggle switch...

So, all in all we had a great time. The rental fees on the rifles was a lot, but not what I would consider to be out of line, especially since I had never, and may never again have the opportunity to handle one, much less put a few hundred dollars of ammo down range. Randy was terrific, and all had a great time.

So again, Thanks my friends. We will enjoy our last day in Baguio tomorrow, then it's back on the bus to go north to Ilocos Norte. I'll check back with you when we get there, and upload some photos. God Bless!

Fred

batangueno
09-08-2007, 08:17
Nice story. Great to hear that you enjoyed your range session. :thumbsup:

3kings
09-08-2007, 08:23
next time you are in metromanila give us a ring and lets have coffee

PMMA97
09-08-2007, 16:59
Originally posted by IH8Q8
No, IT HAD A GIGGLE SWITCH! Holy Mary, mother of God, I was holding my first automatic rifle! Praise be to the patron saints of Gunpowder.


Welcome to the Philippines.Again.

Can I hear a woot woot?:supergrin: