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antediluvianist
08-30-2007, 22:25
Here are some tricks to help you get your money's worth:

1. Fill up your car or truck in the morning when the temperature is still cool. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground; and the colder the ground, the denser the gasoline. When it gets warmer gasoline expands, so if you're filling up in the afternoon or in the evening, what should be a gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and temperature of the fuel (gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products) are significant. Every truckload that we load is temperature-compensated so that the indicated gallonage is actually the amount pumped. A one-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for businesses, but service stations don't have temperature compensation at their pumps.

2. If a tanker truck is filling the station's tank at the time you want to buy gas, do not fill up; most likely dirt and sludge in the tank is being stirred up when gas is being delivered, and you might be transferring that dirt from the bottom of their tank into your car's tank.

3. Fill up when your gas tank is half-full (or half-empty), because the more gas you have in your tank the less air there is and gasoline evaporates rapidly, especially when it's warm. (Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating 'roof' membrane to act as a barrier between the gas and the atmosphere, thereby minimizing evaporation.)

4. If you look at the trigger you'll see that it has three delivery settings: slow, medium and high. When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to the high setting. You should be pumping at the slow setting, thereby minimizing vapors created while you are pumping. Hoses at the pump are corrugated; the corrugations act as a return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered. If you are pumping at the high setting, the agitated gasoline contains more vapor, which is being sucked back into the underground tank, so you're getting less gas for your money. Hope this will help ease your 'pain at the pump'

CatsMeow
08-30-2007, 23:28
Thanks for the tips!:hugs: I'm due for an appointment with the pump first thing next week.

New_comer
08-30-2007, 23:46
Pareho din ba sa Diesel?

Thanks for the tips!

s.g
08-31-2007, 00:08
Ever noticed how quite a number of gasoline attendants love to tinker with the trigger while you're gassing up?

Nakakairita kahit pagsabihan mo ayaw pa din tumigil kung minsan.

Simpleng daya yun diba?

jeric777
08-31-2007, 05:43
how much do you save? i dont think you can save enough to justify the trouble... may half liter ka bang masasave pag ginawa mo yun? parang whag ka maglakad sa kalsada pag tanghali dahil mainit yung sahig at madaling maubos sapatos mo... heheheh.

horge
09-03-2007, 17:29
how much do you save? i dont think you can save enough to justify the trouble...
Don't underestimate gasoline volatility.
Over a year, the savings can be substantial,
and the 'trouble' taken is really no biggie.

Nice tips, manong ante.

New_comer
09-03-2007, 18:23
Watch out for this! Baka di na tayo makapag-forum dahil dito...

Can Reyes avert new electricity rate surge?
POSTSCRIPT By Federico D. Pascual Jr.
Tuesday, September 4, 2007
STARTING ANEW: Energy Secretary Angelo T. Reyes says that he has been given “very urgent” instructions by the President to lead several agencies in drafting a 20-year energy development program.

After six years, the Arroyo administration still does not have an energy program? What has the government been doing since electricity dawned on this country — aside from inflicting brownouts and rate surges?

Whenever a new official takes over his turf, he rolls up his sleeves and, without caring to look back, starts inventing new policies and programs. We are always starting, never taking off. Continuity is not in the vocabulary of the bureaucrat.

* * *

ALL PLANNING: Somebody should tell President Gloria Arroyo that people in economic distress, and that is probably 88 percent of the population, do not understand nor appreciate long-range programs.

Talk of ambitious plans and issue press releases — and you end up with a dismal 18-percent trust rating on the crest of a supposed 7.3-percent growth of the Gross Domestic Product (which 99 percent of the people do not understand in the first place).

A tough general, Reyes can have more impact if he launches a search-and-destroy operation against the mafia milking the National Power Corp. and mercilessly manipulating supply and prices.

* * *

WESM MESS: The Energy secretary may also want to compare notes with Bukidnon Rep. Teofisto Guingona III, who warns of another impending rate increase resulting from the rigging of prices at the Wholesale Electricity Spot Market.

The WESM is a trading mechanism where power generators offer electricity for specific periods and quote a price. The exchange picks the best supply-price combination to purchase and distribute.

In theory, the WESM looks all right. But an audit has exposed alleged price manipulation traced to the same cabal at work at Napocor. Reyes may want to look into this.

The culprits may have thought their foul deed had escaped notice, but Guingona is insisting on a House inquiry.

* * *

PAHIRAP: Guingona warned that power rates could soon increase by P2 per kilowatt-hour as a result of the price manipulation.

As if that is not pahirap (torture) enough, Napocor has announced a P0.74/kwh increase next month as a result of its deferred foreign exchange accounting adjustments for December 2005. That needs explaining.

Government generating plants are just awaiting the go-signal of the Energy Regulatory Commission for them to collect P9 billion (!) for electricity sold way back in September and October 2006.

The Bukidnon solon lamented that generators want to extract that much blood from consumers despite the discovery by regulators of price rigging. He said this translates into an increase of P2/kwh in consumers’ bills.

* * *

UNUSUAL HIGH: The manipulation was exposed by then Albay Rep. Joey Salceda. He noted that rates were unreasonably high although there was no increase in demand and there was no calamity that disrupted generation and transmission.

Salceda noticed that prices had gone up suddenly to P6.88/kwh from P2.88, or a jump of a hefty P4/kwh.

Regulators found that state-owned generators, which dominate production and can therefore influence pricing, were involved in the irregularity. But until now no sanctions have been imposed.

Guingona, the opposition’s “Shadow Cabinet” member for energy, said if the same producers are allowed to collect for electricity sold in September and October 2006, it should be at the market prices prevailing then — not P4/kwh more.

Also, he disagreed with President Gloria Arroyo and her congressman-son Juan Miguel, who chairs the House energy committee, that the Electric Power Industry Reform Act (Epira) of 2001 be amended to bring down rates.

* * *

MONOPOLY: Even before the WESM became operational in June last year, Postscript had warned that the system will not work at this time because Napocor still dominates the industry.

Napocor has about nine trading teams in the WESM representing its nine plants, including the 360-megawatt Magat hydroelectric plant, the 600-mw Masinloc coal-plant and the 700-mw Tiwi-Makban plant.

There cannot be true competition when a monopoly, in this case Napocor, lords it over the field. It still owns 80 percent of power plants despite a mandate for it to privatize.

Napocor is big enough to dictate the price mix at the WESM, and it does.

* * *

CRUEL TRICK: Look what happened in June 2006, when the WESM opened for business. To go along with the President on the claimed positive effects of the WESM, rates were lowered.

Since President Arroyo had promised lower rates, Napocor humored her and sold way below its regulated price. A visibly pleased President went around talking of the declining rates.

I wonder if the President was told later that the introductory bargain price was just for show. As everybody who has seen zapped by soaring rates knows, the public is now paying very dearly for that cruel trick.

* * *

HIKE COMING: Data show that the WESM load weighted average price from June 26 to July 25 (2006) stood at P2.788/kwh. This is 38.5-percent lower than Napocor’s regulated rate of P4.5303/kwh.

But when it dived for the President, Napocor lost P1 billion in the first month of operation of the WESM.

Now Napocor has been raising its price to recover losses from that costly bargain gimmick.

In succeeding months, the average price of power rose nearly 250 percent. In the first trading month (June), bidding reportedly resulted in an average price of P2.72/kwh. It kept climbing until it reached P4.853/kwh in the third month.

Be forewarned: The price is expected to hit P6.88/kwh in the next few days!

* * *
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Valor1
09-03-2007, 18:44
Read some of those tips somewhere but never took it seriously. But coming from Sir Ante, now I know better. Thanks.

isuzu
09-03-2007, 20:21
With regards to electricity, we always take for granted two things that are free; even the poorest country have these. WIND and SOLAR POWER.

We'll just need to harness wind and solar power, and these two will help us a great deal with our electricity problems.

Here in oil-rich Alberta, the Calgary C-Train is powered by electricity coming from windmills. There are quite a substantial number of houses that rely on solar energy for heating their water, heating their houses in the winter, and provide electricity for the owners. And the government is building a nuclear plant because it will be cheaper to operate it as against a coal-fired power plant in the long run.

People here are also starting to replace electric bulbs with energy-saving flourescent compacts.

antediluvianist
09-07-2007, 16:50
I recall reading a study on wind and solar power for the RP.

There are some places where this is possible. However, the best conditions for wind and solar power are continuous , year-long wind that blows at more or less a constant rate, and continuous, non-cloudy sunlight, as in deserts.

So places affected by typhoons and the rainy season - much of the Philippines - are not really that good. I remember reading about parts of the Philippines that are far too cloudy and rainy for far too many days of the year, for efficient solar power. And of course windmills must be folded for typhoons.

The Batanes, the typhoon belt, most of the mid and upper Philippines, just get too much of rainy season and typhoon wind-bursts.

Continuous ocean power, tidal power, and some of Mindanao might work. And of course the continuous, year-round hot air from the Marikina Batasan.

Batesmotel
09-07-2007, 17:10
We owned stations from the mid 50s until 84. #1,3 and 4 are minor but they will help. But #2 is great. NEVER fill up when gas is dumping! You can't beleve the water, oil, grease, rust and dirt that build up in a tank over the years. With deisel the water build up is usualy real bad.

isuzu
09-07-2007, 19:49
I gassed up the other day, and found a sign on the pump that says "Volume Corrected to 15 Celsius." I keep my tank full during winter to prevent gas line freeze. It's terrible, though, when you're out filling your tank at -40 Celsius.

Someone suggested switching to premium gas in the winter.