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chowchow
09-06-2007, 20:23
I showed my college buddy here lately on my Colt .45 and his first words were, " Pareho man yan sa Pilipinas." I thought that was funny. Oh well, he is not much into guns but owns a gen 1 Glock 19 . Its seems to me Filipinos always recognize the venerable 1911 platform as shown in our action movies. Our military too for a long, long time has been using the .45 ACP, as still is.
I, myself, as a kid have seen countless Filipino movies and they always shown the 1911s and baby armalite. This greatly influence my preference and now I have two. Lol.

BTW, is the FN HiPower 9 mm or .40SW gaining popularity in the Philippines , as well?

CatsMeow
09-06-2007, 20:32
Haven't seen a Browning Hi-Power in either caliber lately. I wanted one since I was in college.

I would have ended up with one if I didn't commit to the 3rd gen. G19 sold by Final Option at the 1999 gunshow. Imagine, they were going at P29K then;) so after I paid my deposit and chose my serial number, I walked away to browse, rounded the corner and found myself face-to-face with Twin Pines' BHP at only 23K!:shocked: Too late...

I did have the experience of firing a FEG Hi-Power copy; handled great.:thumbsup:

chowchow
09-06-2007, 20:44
My first look on a Hi Power pistol was in a gunshow held in PICC ( not quite sure) back in 1992. It was a FEG made Hi Power clone and to me it seems similar to the 1911. They had several on display where you can touch and get the grip feel. The very moment I handled one I right away like the slim slide and fatter grips. I havent been familiar with HPs yet that time. I remember they were priced reasonably compared to the rest.

CatsMeow
09-06-2007, 21:51
The HP grip feels great. The FEG had the old-style hammer, compared to the MkIII Browning which I saw in the same display. It also happened to be the official-issue sidearm of the Court of Appeals guards in Ermita, Manila, where I worked for some time, and also of the SBMA guards. One time I was there, during Gordon's time, I noticed they carry their FEGs empty, that is, no mag!:shocked:

I got an article by LeRoy Thompson that states that some arms dealer sold Saddam Hussein a batch of Brownings, only that they were actually fake: FEGs with Browning markings.:supergrin:

Still, I would love to get not only a Browning, but also a Colt 1911, for here the "cuareinta y cinco" lives on!:hugs:

Django
09-06-2007, 23:18
I have a BHP which I inherited from my Dad which he inherited from my Grandpa.

Gramps bought it after WWll for a princely sum of Php 22.00.

When martial law was declared, we surrendered all the FA's in the house since all of them were classified as high powered except this one.

The pistol is about 60 years old now and all parts are original as issued, including the two magazines.

It can still hold its group of 2" at 15 yds.

Not bad for a 60 year old gun. :)

New_comer
09-07-2007, 01:18
The FEG PJK-9HP BHP clone almost became my first handgun. I've done all the research in the net and was totally convinced that it is the gun for me...

Off I went to the 2000 gun show at the Megamall, intent on buying that handsome gun selling at only P17k that time at Trust Trade. I said to myself, "What a great bargain this gun is. Good thing nobody else is after it! Hehehe..." :)

That's how I felt going in, until I passed by Trimark Ventures with various HK's all around. And the rest is history... ;)

PMMA97
09-07-2007, 03:16
Originally posted by CatsMeow
and also of the SBMA guards. One time I was there, during Gordon's time, I noticed they carry their FEGs empty, that is, no mag!:shocked:


They have bullets now. 7 bullets per pistol. 3 shells per shotgun. But they improved their communications capability.:supergrin:

nrmcolt
09-07-2007, 06:42
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/nrmcolt/skull6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/nrmcolt/skull7.jpg
In my experience with fellow shooters here in my neck of the woods, I don't think they ever heard of a BHP or they don't care.

They:(While fondling my BHP)Pre, ano 9mm ito?
Me: Browning Hi Power po iyan.
They: Imposible! Paano naging Hi Power iyan? Eh, 9mm lang iyan!:upeyes: :supergrin:



Paul, ilabas mo na yung BHP mo! :supergrin:

chowchow
09-07-2007, 07:48
Maalala ko ang description palagi ng mass media sa atin referring to long arms/ rifles, most notably M 16s, as hi-powered weapons. Even .45 ACP pistols and .357 mag revolvers also fall in that category. Basta malaki ang bala at malakas, ganon na. Ang 38 Special at .22 LR lang yata ang low -powered if thats what they think.

batangueno
09-08-2007, 09:18
Originally posted by nrmcolt

Paul, ilabas mo na yung BHP mo! :supergrin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/batangueno/Browning.jpg

Almost sold it...really glad i didn't. :supergrin:

New_comer
09-08-2007, 10:24
Originally posted by batangueno
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/batangueno/Browning.jpg

Almost sold it...really glad i didn't. :supergrin: Ala-Elliot Ness and the Untouchables. :supergrin:

chowchow
09-08-2007, 10:31
classic , ganda.


http://www.sunblest.net/gun/FegPJK.htm



Ang recent imports desigated as P 9 M , almost similar in looks but internally different. Selling for a bargain price now. Most recommend getting the PJK 9 HP.

https://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1273

royal glockster
09-08-2007, 21:00
gaining popularity? collectible gun, perhaps. It's not popular in the IPSC world coz it cannot be used in production (single action) nor in standard division (9mm minor scoring).
When the range officer shouts "unload and show clear...hammer down", you cannot do it since it's a magazine safety pistol..hehe.

isuzu
09-08-2007, 23:23
Originally posted by nrmcolt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/nrmcolt/skull6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/nrmcolt/skull7.jpg
In my experience with fellow shooters here in my neck of the woods, I don't think they ever heard of a BHP or they don't care.

They:(While fondling my BHP)Pre, ano 9mm ito?
Me: Browning Hi Power po iyan.
They: Imposible! Paano naging Hi Power iyan? Eh, 9mm lang iyan!:upeyes: :supergrin:



Paul, ilabas mo na yung BHP mo! :supergrin:

Wow, you made me miss my MK III. Exactly the one that I had. Only the grips were changed, courtesy of my brother who sent me Hogue Grips. The only modification (if you can call it modification)that I made was the deactivation of the mag safety. It helped improve the trigger pull.

Sold it in exchange for a Glock 17. For me, it was more accurate than the Glock and was easy to conceal.

New_comer
09-08-2007, 23:52
I haven't seen a PJK for the last 6 years. Only the P9M which is not as handsome

CatsMeow
09-09-2007, 19:05
Di ba in every gunshow there's a contest whereby you get a ballot when you enter and vote for the best custom gun? Last time I did it I voted for a beautiful custom Browning. Dunno if it won...

batangueno
09-09-2007, 19:07
Originally posted by CatsMeow
Di ba in every gunshow there's a contest whereby you get a ballot when you enter and vote for the best custom gun? Last time I did it I voted for a beautiful custom Browning. Dunno if it won...
Wala na the past few gunshows.

CatsMeow
09-09-2007, 21:30
Originally posted by Django
I have a BHP which I inherited from my Dad which he inherited from my Grandpa.

Gramps bought it after WWll for a princely sum of Php 22.00.

When martial law was declared, we surrendered all the FA's in the house since all of them were classified as high powered except this one.

The pistol is about 60 years old now and all parts are original as issued, including the two magazines.

It can still hold its group of 2" at 15 yds.

Not bad for a 60 year old gun. :)

Does your BHP have the old-style tangent rear sight?

Django
09-09-2007, 22:01
Nope. I think those with tangent sights available at that time were surplus Inglis Brownings from Canada. Gramps bought the commercial model.

Toledo
09-10-2007, 14:53
Got my BHP about 2 years ago and I love it.
I like the looks of it and also how it shoots.
...Fits well in my hand, a natural pointer to boot.
You really cannot go wrong with a browning hipower.

Ferdz
09-12-2007, 04:59
I think the late Jeff Cooper, the 1911 guru, lamented the Browning Hi-Power 9mm pistol as the "Half-Power" with regards to what he considers to be a feeble pistol round it's chambered in as compared to the mighty caliber .45 1911s. :upeyes:

chowchow
09-15-2007, 14:32
http://pictures.auctionarms.com/435393/9836b533c754ed9ee70b3d78aff41325.jpg?aa=20070915132942

http://pictures.auctionarms.com/435393/aefc238bddbab09953bf4da82a868ca0.jpg?aa=20070915132942

http://pictures.auctionarms.com/435393/428b7d2f89a0822b676d4bd6eb84cb97.jpg?aa=20070915132942

this is nice in .40 cal

charlie-xray
09-17-2007, 05:25
It just shows that lots of people love to practice malfunction drills..... hehehehe peace.:tongueout: :tongueout: :tongueout:

mtho
09-18-2007, 12:28
Originally posted by New_comer
The FEG PJK-9HP BHP clone almost became my first handgun. I've done all the research in the net and was totally convinced that it is the gun for me...

Off I went to the 2000 gun show at the Megamall, intent on buying that handsome gun selling at only P17k that time at Trust Trade. I said to myself, "What a great bargain this gun is. Good thing nobody else is after it! Hehehe..." :)

That's how I felt going in, until I passed by Trimark Ventures with various HK's all around. And the rest is history... ;)

at ano pa nakita mo sa trimark:)

chowchow
09-18-2007, 18:41
http://members.memlane.com/gromboug/afingl14.jpg
http://members.memlane.com/gromboug/afingl08.jpg

Canadian troops with Hi power back up.

CatsMeow
09-18-2007, 19:04
Though I am now a Glock shooter, I still want one. There's something about its looks that a blocky and utilitarian Glock doesn't have...:)

Thing is, +P and other high-pressure 9mm rounds such as submachinegun ammo should not be fired in it, as per warning of Massad Ayoob, and Bill Laughridge of Cylinder & Slide, in an article I read recently. Do so and risk a cracked frame. Want a "Higher-Power"? Get the .40 version.:)

jasonub
09-18-2007, 20:08
sorry wrong post

chowchow
09-18-2007, 20:24
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/fn_hp_sasfs.jpg

1911 ang topic but it turns out to Hi power. Pasensya lang pards. Ang ganda kasi nang porma.

CatsMeow
09-18-2007, 20:57
LeRoy Thompson, in one of his articles, said he used to rile one of his shooting buddies by saying that the Hi-Power was designed by John Browning to correct the defects of the 1911 which he earlier designed.:supergrin:

Yeah I know it was Browning's protege, Dieudonne Saive, who actually designed the HP (and the FAL among others), but it makes for a good story.:supergrin:

So related ang HP to the 1911.:thumbsup:

mtho
09-19-2007, 01:06
my 40 BHP,found out that it was made in 1990. I think thats the first year Browning came out in 40s&w. do you think there's any added value to this?
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/mtho_6275/DSC_00362980.jpg

here's a pic with my commander
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/mtho_6275/DSC_00112962.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/mtho_6275/DSC_00162966.jpg
compromise
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/mtho_6275/_DSC0005.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/mtho_6275/BG_01-03.jpg

GMV
09-19-2007, 02:24
mark, ilan ba talaga baril mo? ;) :supergrin:

mtho
09-19-2007, 03:36
Gilbert,
yung commander at browning lang yung akin dyan, yung iba sa panaginip lang.

batangueno
09-19-2007, 06:06
Mark, alam ba sa bahay nyo yang mga baril mo. :supergrin:

st. matthew
09-19-2007, 06:52
maganda yung baul ni mark, may false bottom:supergrin:

atmarcella
09-19-2007, 08:19
grabe dami nyo baril.... di ba masakit sa bulsa yan pag dating ng expiration ng license:sad:

chowchow
09-19-2007, 08:42
Instead of a G 23 , mukha ngang FN HP in .40 ang pangarap ko sa dumating na araw. :hugs:

http://www.lowe.ca/Rick/Firearms/Images/HiPowerInglis.jpg

mtho
09-19-2007, 11:27
Originally posted by batangueno
Mark, alam ba sa bahay nyo yang mga baril mo. :supergrin:

oo naman, nabuko na ako eh. di lang nila alam yung baril ko isang lalaki at isang babae mabilis dumadami.