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brad_cwn
09-20-2007, 18:57
I just gave a new G17 to my spouse. I have spent countless hours with her at the range training her for the moment I hope never happens. In any case I will be deyploying again and would like some adivice on these guide rod lasers.... Thanks..
jstforme
09-20-2007, 19:07
there is only one, lasermax. i actually handled my buddies 32 last weekend with one, we were on his second floor balcony just hanvin fun pointing and aiming at "targets" well over 100 yards away. i like it a lot, hes never had one problem. if they werent so expensive i would get one
Lasermax makes the guide rod lasers. Crimson Trace makes the slip over the grip lasers. Both are useless in bright sunlight.
Make sure she can use the guns open sights, under the stress of the moment she'll likely not think to turn on the lasermax.....or the battery will be dead.
AND THANK YOU for your service! Stay safe!
:patriot:
buster55
09-20-2007, 20:32
I have had a couple lasermax units,they are top of the line.
With proper training you can be on target as fast as using your regular sights.
Open sights do little good at night time use as lasers will do little good during the day,so with training she can be well versed in all situations.
Battery life on my units have lasted upwards of 2 years,you can tell when they are getting weak so like any other part of self defense checklist,check them along with the rest of the gun.
There is a good reason the military and top law enforcement units use laser aided equipment,It works.
To answer your question, we've had two LaserMax guide rod laser designators in two Glock pistols--G19 & G21--and have been very pleased with both of them. Each gun and unit has thousands of rounds on it, and we are satisfied with their reliability.
Recently, several GT members have had problematic LaserMax units, and while the OEM works to resolve problems, I would recommend that you buy from a reputable retailer, like MidwayUSA for instance, and return/exchange any sub-standard unit immediately. Odds are, the next unit will be flawless. Let the retailer return the defective unit.
While I have a high respect for Butch's opinion, and agree that nothing replaces basic marksmanship skills, I do not agree that your wife will likely forget to turn the laser on, or that the batteries will likely be dead in the moment of need. Might as well say the same for any weapon light, or flashlight. Perhaps, Butch was referring to Murphy's Law...
Still, you never know till TSHTF!
Here's my experience, in a nut shell:
Installation:
An ape with ten thumbs will struggle with it. A thoughtful, observant person, with a little experience in assembling things, will have no problem. You replace the slide lock lever and slide lock lever spring. Pop in the laser/guide rod, and you're done. No collimation of the laser beam is necessary.
Operation:
Simple. The slightly longer slide lock lever is pushed in from either side to activate the laser. Rounds appear about 1/4" above the pulsing dot, out to the back of our indoor range. There is no need to sight down the barrel--trigger control is everything here. Dry fire practice works wonders! There is no impact to the functioning of the gun, and its ergonomics are unaffected. For extended range practice, you can pop the OEM guide rod/recoil spring back in.
Brightness:
Plenty bright for indoor use, day or night; but falls short during high noon at the OK Corral... ;) Attached is a night time pic of Judy's LaserMax in the full glare of a SureFire X200B
Cleaning & Reassembly:
I use lens cleaner, a Q-Tip, and a blast of canned air to clean the aperture. I use a little Hoppe's Elite on a patch to clean the cap & contact, with another blast of canned air. Cheap, practice ammo will cloud the lens in fifty shots or so (I don't think this is an issue for SD purposes). Take care to position the tail cap exactly as shown in the manual.
Battery Life:
We're still on original batteries from 11/05 and 02/06 purchases.
Customer Service:
Top notch.
Here's an LEO's review of LaserMax in a duty G21:
http://www.commtechreview.net/firearms/lasermax.htm
You might also consider the Uni-Max, by LaserMax, which slips onto
the light rail, and still accommodates a weapon light, if desired.
Best of luck to you and your wife, and thank you for your service to our country.
God Bless.
--Ray
brad_cwn
09-22-2007, 15:53
Thanks for your help guys, much apprecieated.. I went to the gun shop to order a new laser for the wife.. Thanks again..
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