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hotpig
09-21-2007, 20:58
Is this Amsoil worth the money?

intheburbs
09-21-2007, 21:29
Depending on your needs, yes. I think Royal Purple and Amsoil are the kings of the hill. I use RP in my truck (would use Amsoil as well)because I drag a 6,000-lb travel trailer around the country, usually 2,000 miles per trip. When I'm not towing, I usually drive it like I stole it, so I like the extra protection from the synthetic. I get RP off eBay for $6.20 a quart shipped.

I use Mobil 1 in the wife's minivan and my car.

I would recommend Amsoil/RP it if you use your vehicle hard.

epsylum
09-21-2007, 22:42
I know people who swear by it. I just run Mobil 1 in my car. It is easier to find.

220-9er
09-24-2007, 07:44
Mobil 1. Easier to find too. If your car needs something more than Mobil 1 it has a problem that oil won't help.

wedge
09-24-2007, 15:07
Is there any truth to Amsoil's claim of being able to run their engine oil for 15,000 miles???

Glock20.com
09-25-2007, 14:22
Yes, many AMSOIL oils will last 15000 miles or longer.
There is even a study http://www.amsoil.com/testimonials/8pt2_morempg.aspx

I am a sponsor on this forum and my amsoil dealer site is www.Race-Oil.com.

We do indeed have oils that last up to 35,000 miles or 1 year under normal service and 17,500 or 1 year under severe service.

We have many oils that are rated to 25000, 12500 severe.

Some people run their oil forever, just changing the filter annually and adding the oil to make up that loss. this is especially true with bypass customers as they have large filters that take out even smaller particles. They only filter a small amount of oil at a time to a much larger degree, but it is "always on".

To run them over 1 year, you should test your oil which is about $25 postage paid. ($20 wholesale)

Also, for best results you should use the Amsoil synthetic oil filter and Amsoil synthetic air filter for your vehicle.

Amsoil Corp is always developing and adding new products and recently released 14" dia air filters for older vehicles like my 73 z28 with a 350 with up to 6" rise and synthetic top.

Synthetic fibers are many, many, many times smaller than standard media nd allow many more small spaces so flow, whether air or oil, is increased while filtration, space between fibers, is kept to the same or smaller (better filtration) than standard filters.

Amsoil Synthetic Air Filters are good for 100,000 mi or 4 years with annual GENTLE cleaning.

If you want to know what products are best for your vehicle, feel free to post your vehicle yr/make/model and engine type (usually 8th char of VIN).

Everyone is welcome to buy at wholesale for $20/yr ($10 first 6 mo) which makes sense if you buy more than $100 worth per year. please follow this link to buy wholesale. https://www.amsoil.com/AmsoilLogin/PreferredApp.aspx?zo=1458371

Again, just post a message and I will tell you what products to order and how much it would cost wholesale and retail.

Thanks,

Eric Snyder

Glock20.com
09-25-2007, 14:26
I forgot to respond to the "easier to find" post. Amsoil products (Oil, filters, ngk plugs, trico wiper blades, mother's car care products, etc) can all be delivered to your doorstep.

If you have a favorite small shop that you would like to buy amsoil at, put us in touch with each other and if you want to make a little residual income I will set you up as a dealer to make the lionshare of the profit.

As a new dealer, retail accounts are the most profitable paying nearly 20% commission.

skeeeter
09-26-2007, 02:49
Does Amsoil and Royal Purple meet GM specs as per the Corvette's owners manual?

Glock20.com
09-26-2007, 08:43
Amsoil does:

What year, I will post links to the data sheets for the amsoil products. Not only does it meet specs, but everyone I know personally who has switched over to amsoil oil, ATF, or gear lube tells me their vehicle is smoother.

I have my first friend/customer doing the full conversion in the next week or so. Oil, Oil filter, Air Filter, ATF, Gear Lube. His friend with a 1988 vette is doing oil, filter, air filter to start.

Amsoil focuses on making it's products the best.

walkin' trails
09-26-2007, 19:08
I've used both Mobile 1 and Royal Purple, but have used Mobile 1 the longest. Recently went back to Mobile 1 simply because it costs a little less, is a little more comon to find, and is a pretty good lubricant. I still change my oil at factory intervals, regardless of fact that synthetic will go longer. I'm not regularly towing anything or driving that hard. I just want my motor to last a long time. I have never noticed any difference in gas milege between using conventional oil vs. Mobile 1 vs. Royal Purple. Royal Purple advertises documented increases in horse power. In the early 1990s, some Mustang magazine tested synthetic oils at the drag strip, and Mobile 1 was the only one that showed any actual performance increases as measured by time slips. I never thought about looking for Royal Purple on Ebay, but $6.20/qt. is good.

Glock20.com
09-27-2007, 00:50
Hell, if you are looking for cheap, Amsoil makes the jiffy lube version, the XL line, that is good for 7500-12000 mi for $6.00 per quart current pricing as of 9/26/2007. prices go up 10/1, but not by much. if you order by the case, it's 70.80 (5.90/qt) + 8.82 freight and your local tax. It is not as good as the TSO or TRO products, but if you are dumping it down the drain every 3-7k it's got plenty of phosphorous and zinc to protect your valve train for that period. it is recommmended for 6 mo. oil changes and they don't even recommend bothering with the high quality synthetic filters at that interval. just use a wix at $7 ea.

BTW, get set up as a preferred customer and that case price drops to 51.60 (4.30/qt) plus the same freight. it costs $10 per 6 mo and saves a bundle.

it's still better than the competition.

G30Big
10-13-2007, 10:30
I was going to use Amsoil and decided to go with Rotella T instead. It's a long-life diesel oil available at Wal-Mart. Both dino and syn are good and I have the Syn in my Kawasaki Concours, which has 55,000 miles on it. I've got 4000 miles on it this change and the bike has not used any oil. I am happy with it and it's $16/gallon at WM.

Glock20.com
10-13-2007, 15:09
For about $28 per gallon as a PC, you can get the best oil on the market (HDD) or for about $18 per gallon you can get full synthetic AME heavy duty diesel marine oil (what I use in my customer's generators and what I recommend for boats).

In any case, you should use the synthetic filters.

Petroleum oil is distilled by molecular weight and a lot of junk weighs the same amount as the "oil" you want.

Norman
10-20-2007, 20:19
Everyone is welcome to buy at wholesale for $20/yr ($10 first 6 mo) which makes sense if you buy more than $100 worth per year. please follow this link to buy wholesale. https://www.amsoil.com/AmsoilLogin/PreferredApp.aspx?zo=1458371

Again, just post a message and I will tell you what products to order and how much it would cost wholesale and retail.


Eric, I am considering changing all the fluids out to Amsoil in my 2007 GMC Sierra new body style with 4.8L V8 (6 quarts oil) that will have about 8-9k miles at next oil change. Would you be willing to provide me a list of products and prices? And is it smart to switch to synthetic at this point, or just continue conventional oil usage for a certain period of time? Thank you.

And who would perform a good install of a bypass filter on my truck?

Glock20.com
10-23-2007, 01:12
Eric, I am considering changing all the fluids out to Amsoil in my 2007 GMC Sierra new body style with 4.8L V8 (6 quarts oil) that will have about 8-9k miles at next oil change. Would you be willing to provide me a list of products and prices? And is it smart to switch to synthetic at this point, or just continue conventional oil usage for a certain period of time? Thank you.

And who would perform a good install of a bypass filter on my truck?

With the new vehicles, it is safe to switch to AMSOIL synthetics right away. Many new engines come with synthetic.

Since you said it is a new style, I am betting it is not a classic. also, the 1500s were the only ones I saw with the 4.8L. I will post the on classic first

In the transmission section, if you have a 4L60E it can be a deep or not pan. neither pan is deeper than the other, the deeper one just has ridges on the bottom, so you have to look at it. If you can't find out if you have a 4L60e or 4L80E, I can check my friend's truck to see if there is a code (he had a "shallow" pan)

Other useful information in identifying proper products are:
1. Maker
2. Model
3. Year
4. Numbers
5. Engine type (usually 8th letter of VIN, but if you don't know, you can just post everything but the last 6 numbers and I can look it up)
6. Transmission type
7. 4wd?
8. differential types

I know it is a lot of info, but the stuff I am posting has just been trimmed down to the best products.

I can't give you exact prices because of AMSOIL policies, but I ordered the everything for a friend of mine with a 2wd 1500 with mostly the same products and the retail was around $420 and the wholesale was around $320 including the $20 for the PC program.

The bypass is a whole nother beast as far as config options. preoilers, preferred installation location, etc. my bypass system with all the options for my ram2500 was about $650. (the preoiler alone is about $300).

Some other good news. Amsoil will soon be selling a DOT 4 brake fluid. (also a DOT 3).

I put the product codes before the product in the list and trimmed it down to only the best in each category. if you are going to convert, you might as well use the best AMSOIL has to offer.

2007 GMC TRUCKS SIERRA 1500 PICKUP 4.8L 8-cyl Engine Code C

FILTERS

Oil Filter......... EAO47 Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter

Air Filter......... EAA123 AMSOIL Ea Air Filter [1]

Trans Filter..... 58608 WIX 58608 Auto Tran Filter (O) [3]

Trans Filter..... 58904 WIX 58904 Trans Filter (S) [4]

1. Heavy Duty & Light Duty
3. 4L80-E
4. 4L60E - If deep pan, use 58847

NGK PLUGS & WIRE SETS

Plug................. IXIRIDIUM TR55IX amsoil product NGK7164

TRICO WIPER BLADES
Blade Class Driver Passenger Rear
NEOFORM T162213 T162213



LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil
SSO SAE 0W-30 Synthetic Signature Series Oil
Automatic Transmission.....AF6
ATF Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Standard Differential, Front .....GL-4[2]
MTG Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90
Standard Differential, Rear .....GL-5[3]
SVG Severe Gear 75W-90
SVT Severe Gear 75W-110
Transfer Case,.....AF6
ATF Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Fluids
Power Steering Fluid.....PS
Brake Fluid.....HB

CHASSIS LUBRICATION
Two-wheel drive
6 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LB
GRG Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease
Four-wheel drive
11 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LB
GRG Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease

CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........6.0 quarts[1]
Cooling System, GMT900 W/ AT W/ Elect Fan Initial Fill..........17.0 quarts
ANT AMSOIL Antifreeze and Engine Coolant
Automatic Transmission, 4L60E Initial Fill..........5.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
4 speed 4L60/4L70..........11.0 quarts
Differential, with 8.25 ring gear Front..........3.0 pints
Differential, with 9.25 ring gear Front..........3.7 pints
Differential, with 9.50 ring gear Rear..........5.5 pints
Differential, with 8.6 ring gear Rear..........4.2 pints

1. After refill check oil level.
2. With the ENG at operating TEMP, shift TRANS
through all gears. Let ENG slow idle in PARK for at
least 3 minutes. Check fluid level and add fluid as needed.
Do not overfill.

TORQUES
Oil Drain Plug.....18 ft-lbs
Transfer case NR3
Fill Plug.....18 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....18 ft-lbs
Transfer case MP 1222
Fill Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Transfer case MP 1225
Fill Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Transfer case MP1226-NQG
Fill Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Transfer case MP 1625
Fill Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Transfer case MP1626-NQF
Fill Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Transfer case MP3023-NQH
Fill Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....13 ft-lbs
Transfer case NVG261-NP2
Fill Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....15 ft-lbs

SERVICE INTERVAL
AMSOIL Product Recommendation and Drain Interval Guide (g1490)

OTHER TOP QUALITY PRODUCTS
Mothers® Car Care Appearance Products
By-Pass Oil Filters

2007 GMC TRUCKS SIERRA 1500 CLASSIC 4.8L 8-cyl Engine Code V

FILTERS

Oil Filter......... EAO47 Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter

Air Filter......... EAA123 AMSOIL Ea Air Filter [1]

Trans Filter..... 58608 WIX 58608 Auto Tran Filter (O) [2]

Trans Filter..... 58904 WIX 58904 Trans Filter (S) [3]

1. Heavy Duty
2. 4L80-E
3. 4L60E - If deep pan, use 58847

NGK PLUGS & WIRE SETS

Plug................. IXIRIDIUM TR55IX NGK7164

Wire Set.......... WIRESET RC-GMX091 NGK51033 [1]

Wire Set.......... WIRESET RC-GMX102 NGK51430 [2]

1.Mitsubishi Ign
2.Delphi Ign

TRICO WIPER BLADES
Blade Class Driver Passenger Rear
NEOFORM T16220 [1] T16220 [2]


LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil
SSO SAE 0W-30 Synthetic Signature Series Oil
Manual Transmission,NV3500.....GLS[2]
MTF AMSOIL Synthetic Synchromesh Transmission Fluid
Automatic Transmission.....AF6
ATF Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Automatic Transmission.....AF6
ATF Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Standard Differential, Front .....GL-4[3]
MTG Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90
Standard Differential, Rear .....GL-5[4]
SVG Severe Gear 75W-90
SVT Severe Gear 75W-110
Transfer Case,Manual Shift.....GLS[5]
AFL Synthetic 5W-40 European Engine Oil
Transfer Case,Automatic Shif.....SLF[6]
No AMSOIL Product Recommendation
Fluids
Power Steering Fluid.....PS
Brake Fluid.....HB
Clutch Fluid.....HB

1. SAE 5W-30 is preferred.
2. GLS is a special gear lube, GM part no. 12345349.
3. GM Part No US 89021671 Canada 89021672
4. Synthetic axle lubricant GM part No. USA 89021677
Canada 89021678 meeting GM Specification 9986115.
5. Gm recommends part no (USA 88861800) Canada (88861801)
or equivalant for manual transmission, transfer
case applications.
6. SLF is GM part no. 12378508 (U.S.), 10953626 (CAN).

CHASSIS LUBRICATION
Four-wheel drive
11 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LB
GRG Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease
Two-wheel drive
6 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LB
GRG Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease

CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........6.0 quarts[1]
Cooling System, GMT900 W/ AT W/ Elect Fan Initial Fill..........17.0 quarts
ANT AMSOIL Antifreeze and Engine Coolant
Automatic Transmission, 4L60E/4L70 Initial Fill..........5.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, 4L80E Initial Fill..........7.7 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
4 speed 4L60..........11.0 quarts
Manual Transmission, 4WD NV3500..........4.2 pints
Manual Transmission, 2WD NV3500..........4.9 pints
Differential, with 8.25 ring gear Front..........3.0 pints
Differential, with 9.25 ring gear Front..........3.7 pints
Differential, with 9.50 ring gear Rear..........5.5 pints
Differential, with 8.6 ring gear Rear..........4.2 pints
Differential, with 9.75 ring gear Rear..........6.0 pints
Differential, with 10.50 ring gear Rear..........5.5 pints
Differential, with 11.50 ring gear Rear..........6.3 pints
Transfer Case,NVG 149-NP3..........4.4 pints
Transfer Case,NVG 246-NP8..........4.0 pints
Transfer Case,NVG 261-NP2..........4.0 pints
Transfer Case,NVG 263-NP1..........4.0 pints

1. After refill check oil level.
2. With the ENG at operating TEMP, shift TRANS
through all gears. Let ENG slow idle in PARK for at
least 3 minutes. Check fluid level and add fluid as needed.
Do not overfill.

TORQUES
Oil Drain Plug.....18 ft-lbs
Transfer case NVG263-NP1
Fill Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Transfer case NVG261-NP2
Fill Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Transfer case NVG246-NP8
Fill Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Transfer case NVG149-NP3
Fill Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....15 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV3500
Fill Plug.....22 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....22 ft-lbs

SERVICE INTERVAL
AMSOIL Product Recommendation and Drain Interval Guide (g1490)

OTHER TOP QUALITY PRODUCTS
Mothers® Car Care Appearance Products
By-Pass Oil Filters

Norman
10-23-2007, 18:06
Thank you. Great info to have once I decide to switch over. I may likely even contact you to see if there's anything you might be able to do for me. Thanks again.

Glock20.com
10-24-2007, 10:37
I look forward to hearing from you

Ghost-1
11-02-2007, 02:57
Eric,

I am stationed up in El paso, TX so I get alot of city driving that puts hard driving and use on any automobile and then I get highway driving which is not bad but good when I go to DFW, San Antonio heading home to GA when I get leave. I do haul stuff around but not really any heavy loads at this time. I also find myself driving around out in the oped desert there.

I will be getting in touch with you when I get back from over here in Iraq. I have a GMC Serria Extended Cab I bought brand new in May of 2006. between me and my wife we still have less than 6000 miles on it. I figure it would be a good time for me to try and get all the stuff I need for it to switch it over since I have been running all the service stuff from the dealership for the almost past two years and I want to keep everything running the best that it can.

I can not remeber what GM calls the small block V8 but that is what I have in it. I will have to look at the tranny to see which one I have under it. It is only a 2WD. What all would you recommend for me to change out with the everything change over for this truck?

Thanks,
Chris

Glock20.com
11-02-2007, 11:24
There are 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0L v-8 that could fit that description.

Do you have the body number 1500, 1500HD, 2500HD, 3500?

The eighth character of the VIN should be engine type.

Full conversion =

Motor Oil, Air Filter, Oil Filter, Coolant, Transmission Fluid, Trans Filter, Rear Diff Fluid, Wipers, Plugs (probably not needed), wires (probably not needed).

Even with few miles on it, petroleum oil should be changed every 6 mo to avoid sludge build up and reduce acidity. Amsoil SSO can be tested every year for about $20 and just change the filter.

Regular coolants breakdown in about 3 years max and start eating water pumps, radiators, etc. AMSOIL is 7 year PG coolant.

Post up when you get back from Iraq. it only takes about 2 days to get everything.

Thank you for serving.

Ghost-1
11-02-2007, 11:35
There are 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0L v-8 that could fit that description.

Do you have the body number 1500, 1500HD, 2500HD, 3500?

The eighth character of the VIN should be engine type.

Full conversion =

Motor Oil, Air Filter, Oil Filter, Coolant, Transmission Fluid, Trans Filter, Rear Diff Fluid, Wipers, Plugs (probably not needed), wires (probably not needed).

Even with few miles on it, petroleum oil should be changed every 6 mo to avoid sludge build up and reduce acidity. Amsoil SSO can be tested every year for about $20 and just change the filter.

Regular coolants breakdown in about 3 years max and start eating water pumps, radiators, etc. AMSOIL is 7 year PG coolant.

Post up when you get back from Iraq. it only takes about 2 days to get everything.

Thank you for serving.

Ok thanks I will get back with on this when I hit home next month. That way I will baable to look at everything and see what is what.