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birddog1
11-16-2007, 06:44
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=386865&Category=9&subCategoryID=0

CANTON A Montana company that manufactures high-grade rifles is opening a facility on Mulberry Road SE, with plans to hire 45 employees during the next three years.

Cooper Firearms of Montana manufactures bolt-action rifles sold in 180 retail outlets in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana and other states, including Hawaii and Alaska. Cooper produces rifles for target practice and hunting.

The Canton Community Improvement Corp. approved a $125,000 deferred economic development loan Thursday for the project. The five-year loan works as a grant and does not have to be repaid as long as conditions are met, including job creation.

Funds will be spent on equipment and renovations to the 40,000-square-foot building, which has a basement that will be used for test shooting.

“This is a great project for Canton and a great project for the Stark County area,” said Steve Katz, senior vice president of the Canton Regional Chamber of Commerce and a CIC board member. “It’s nice to see some manufacturing jobs created.”

Dan Cooper, company founder and president, said he chose Canton because a partner in the company is from Canton. Cooper, who used to live in Indiana, was visiting Canton when he spotted the Mulberry building, which he said is ideal for the project.

About 15 employees are expected to be hired at the Canton site by late 2008 and 10 more by late 2009, said Cooper, who used to work for the now-defunct rifle-maker Kimber of Oregon. A total of 45 employees are projected by late 2010.

The Montana facility employs nearly 40 people and will remain operating, Cooper said. The Canton plant will include woodworking and metal-making portions. Assembly eventually will be done on Mulberry Road and the rifles will be shipped out.

The $1.52 million project includes $150,000 for the purchase of the building; $325,000 for building improvements; $573,000 for machinery and equipment; and $496,700 for inventory.

Wages for the Canton jobs may be $10 to $12 an hour, with the opportunity for raises, Cooper said. Some Canton employees will be sent to Montana for training, he said.

Talks with Cooper and the city started about a year ago, said Mayor Janet Weir Creighton.

Cooper complimented the city’s economic development program. He said he also considered locating the second Cooper Firearms facility in Mansfield, South Carolina and South Dakota.

“I have never encountered a place, a city, in all the ones we looked at, that were so ... business friendly and were just so helpful,” he said of Canton.

ABBOTT AND AKER

Also at Thursday’s meeting, the CIC approved a $50,000 deferred economic development loan to Abbott Electric.

It will use the funds to renovate a building at 2001 Allen Ave. SE it leases to Akers Sign Co. The project is projected to total $150,000.

Reach Repository writer Ed Balint at (330) 580-8315 or e-mail: ed.balint@cantonrep.com

I wonder if they give employee discounts?

Blitzer
11-16-2007, 06:50
McDonalds closer's wages for building quality American rifles?


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flitcrma
11-16-2007, 08:28
Wow....I wouldn't mind working in a firearms plant instead of selling car parts, but not for nearly the same wage as what I'm getting now.

alwaysshootin
11-16-2007, 09:46
With jobs paying in that range, who cares! Nothing like working for a company, knowing, you'll never be able to afford what they sell.

degoodman
11-16-2007, 10:52
$10 - $12? That was a misprint right? There's noplace I'm aware of where trained machinists or CNC machine operators come that cheap.

All that having been said, 12 1/2 seconds after the cooper 52 is available in left handed (late 2008 is the current claim) I'm on that like stink on ****. That's their 3 shot long action repeater.

anyplainjoe
11-16-2007, 12:14
it's nice to know Canton gov't is helpful to a gun company, unlike IL.

Catalina
11-17-2007, 16:08
McDonalds closer's wages for building quality American rifles?

Well, why don't you start your own rifle company and pay the workers what you think is appropriate?

And FDR was a socialist that planted the seeds for the destruction of freedom in America: http://www.fff.org/freedom/0891a.asp

kidicarus13
11-19-2008, 23:01
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_N.htm

Now what?

shadow_dog
11-23-2008, 17:03
Well, why don't you start your own rifle company and pay the workers what you think is appropriate?



I know what "caliber" (pun intended) of workers we get in my plant for $10 an hour, for a starting wage. I wouldn't shoot anything these arseclowns would make.
This is in sw ohio.

RonS
11-25-2008, 09:41
A lot of advanced manufacturing that uses CNC equipment does not depend on skilled CNC operators anymore. Skilled CNC operators make high wages and are expected to change over the machine to make different parts, make progam adjustments for when people like me screwup and use a lot of judgement and take a lot of responsibility for the quality of the product. That's what they pay them the big bucks for. If you are making a limited range of products and spend the upfront time and money to perfect your manufacturing processes you can have semi skilled employees load the machines and use a lot of automation instead. Read a few articles in Modern Machine Shop and you will see plenty of stories about companies who made the decision to NOT hire full up CNC operators (who often have minds of their own about how things should be done) and created processes that are heavy on engineering up front and require no knowledge beyond "put part in vise, push green button, if loud noise occurs, push red button and come to office." How many different CNC parts go into a Cooper rifle? How many setups a day per operator? Probably not many. Plus, consider this, how many applicants does Cooper want? Put in the paper that there will be $24 an hour jobs and they will be overwhelmed. Put in the paper that they are paying $10-12 an hour and you can fill the shipping clerk and janitor jobs and do a discrete search thru the local community college for recent CNC school grads and still have 20 to interview for every opening.

RWBlue
11-26-2008, 18:02
Just remember where your money is going.

More executives sold on Obama


Yahoo! Buzz Digg Newsvine Reddit FacebookWhat's this?By Ken Dilanian, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Dan Cooper, a proud member of the National Rifle Association, has backed Republicans for most of his life. He's the chief executive of Cooper Arms, a small Montana company that makes hunting rifles.
Cooper said he voted for George W. Bush in 2000, having voted in past elections for every Republican presidential nominee back to Richard Nixon. In October 1992, he presented a specially made rifle to the first President. Bush during a Billings campaign event.

This year, Cooper has given $3,300 to the campaign of Democrat Barack Obama. That's on top of the $1,000 check he wrote to Obama's U.S. Senate campaign in 2004, after he was dazzled by Obama's speech at that year's Democratic National Convention.


TV ADS: Obama ads overwhelm TV presence of McCain

Cooper is a player in one of the little-told dramas of the 2008 presidential campaign: how Obama has been able to out-raise Republican John McCain among swaths of the business community, outperforming previous Democratic presidential nominees in drawing business support.

Cooper changed sides, he said, "probably because of the war. And also because the Republican Party has moved so far right in recent years."

He also likes Obama's message about "the retooling of America, which involves the building of middle-class jobs and helping American small business be competitive with those overseas."

Magicmanmb
11-27-2008, 09:46
With jobs paying in that range, who cares! Nothing like working for a company, knowing, you'll never be able to afford what they sell.

Down here that's double the average wage.

alwaysshootin
11-27-2008, 11:16
Down here that's double the average wage.

Sorry to hear that! In my area, just about any job one may get, the starting wage would be in the 8.00 hr range. Any job requiring skills of some sort, would start about double that. Just can't stand seeing good paying jobs, leaving one local, to a depressed local, just to drop the wages. Of course I guess it's better to move somewhere in the states and pay 10-12 an hour rather then moving to Mexico paying that a day.

Magicmanmb
11-27-2008, 21:51
Sorry to hear that! In my area, just about any job one may get, the starting wage would be in the 8.00 hr range. Any job requiring skills of some sort, would start about double that. Just can't stand seeing good paying jobs, leaving one local, to a depressed local, just to drop the wages. Of course I guess it's better to move somewhere in the states and pay 10-12 an hour rather then moving to Mexico paying that a day.


The only employment here is in tourism or construction. Construction has dropped so bad we have Mexicans leaving to go home. When I left LE/EMS for Hotel management I doubled my annual. We have LE making $27k topped out. There was a case before the State Supreme Court here a few years ago decision was if a person agreed to work for $5.00 a day it was legal. Upstate has some industry. I made more money 10 years ago than now due to loss of bonuses etc... I'm taking my medical retirement and moving North.

alwaysshootin
11-27-2008, 22:13
The only employment here is in tourism or construction. Construction has dropped so bad we have Mexicans leaving to go home. When I left LE/EMS for Hotel management I doubled my annual. We have LE making $27k topped out. There was a case before the State Supreme Court here a few years ago decision was if a person agreed to work for $5.00 a day it was legal. Upstate has some industry. I made more money 10 years ago than now due to loss of bonuses etc... I'm taking my medical retirement and moving North.

Damn, that flat out sucks! Hope things get better, for all of us!

Magicmanmb
11-27-2008, 22:21
The Hard Rock Theme Park they built this year lasted about 75 days.

100 million to build, goes up for bankruptcy auction soon 35million starting bid.

Bad part is at the end a lot of the performers had written contracts, to be paid through 12/31/08. They didn't even get wages for the last 2 weeks they worked.

Tarkio
11-27-2008, 22:47
By The Associated Press
HELENA - The president of a small Montana gun manufacturer has been asked to resign after an Internet uproar over his support for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

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The company said Cooper was asked to resign by the board of directors after it appeared that the uproar over Cooper's support for Obama could affect employees and shareholders.
"Although we all believe everyone has a right to vote and donate as they see fit, it has become apparent that the fallout may affect more than just Mr. Cooper," the company said.


http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=386865&Category=9&subCategoryID=0
Dan Cooper, company founder and president, said he chose Canton because a partner in the company is from Canton. Cooper, who used to live in Indiana, was visiting Canton when he spotted the Mulberry building, which he said is ideal for the project.


WTF

Imagine that.
Looks like maybe we have been lied to. Can you believe it????