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ks farmboy
12-04-2007, 05:28
what year did everyone join the AF? how long did you stay in? if you are out, do you regret not staying in?

meeko
12-04-2007, 07:46
1985 ANG 1986 transfered to active duty AF. 1993 seperated AF rejoined ANG retired ANG 2007. Would have stayed ANG longer but had to get away from "political" forces. Am looking to move and find a new unit to go back into (yes you can come out of retirement if you are not getting a check)

I don't regret getting out of active duty.

MrMurphy
12-05-2007, 03:24
2005. Still in.

crazypilot
12-05-2007, 04:35
2001, before Sept 11 and still in. Believe it or not, I was at the top of the Empire State building on June 25, 2001 taking pictures of the NYC skyline. I took the pics with me to Tech school and I noticed I had taken pictures of the WTCs. That was the last time I saw them. :patriot::usaf:

G19Tony
12-05-2007, 08:49
ANG 1978-1982
USAF 1982-1988
USAFR 1989-1999
Retired 1999

meeko
12-05-2007, 10:19
2005. Still in.

You should be close to Below the Zone?

planorick
12-05-2007, 12:10
I went in the Air Force in Oct 1973 and retired in Jun 1994. I never regretted my time in but after 20 years, it was time to move on and try something new. I am now in management for a large international computer outsourcing company.

MrMurphy
12-05-2007, 14:02
Long past, I was supposed to put on SrA in October. Bad knees and a screwed up situation means I'm still an A1C.

Sam White
12-05-2007, 18:03
USAR 2002-2006, went into ANG 2006. I will stay until SF won't let me past the front gate.

ks farmboy
12-06-2007, 03:46
well since i started this thread, i came in aug 05, signing for 4 years. i cannot wait to get out. the flightline has ruined my experience. i was more patriotic before i came in than i am now.

308th_sps
12-06-2007, 08:01
1975-1979. SAC for the entire time. Good experience.

crash141
12-06-2007, 10:31
I was commissioned june 1980 and my retirement date is 31 dec 2007. I spent 7 years on active duty and the rest in the reserve's.

md2lgyk
12-06-2007, 10:46
Eight years Navy (submarine service). Sixteen years Air National Guard. Retired last year.

af_50
12-06-2007, 12:53
1995-1999 AF AD
1999-2001 AF Reserve
2001-2004 Army National Guard
2004-present AF Reserve (inactive for now though)

I wish I would've stayed active duty. I'd either be a Master or be testing for Master and I'd have less than 8 years until my 20.

meeko
12-06-2007, 18:34
Long past, I was supposed to put on SrA in October. Bad knees and a screwed up situation means I'm still an A1C.

So I'm guessing a drama King/Queen was given a break? That happened about 20 years ago to my board. the "back office" decided a troop that went over to Saudi for 90 days that had a spouse that burned an engine up in the family car, didn't pay rent or utilities for 90 days and maxed out about 4 credit cards was more deserving and thus an example for early promotion (they might need more money for her to spend)

AF-Odin
12-06-2007, 18:57
Born at Keesler AFB 1951
Grew up on AF bases until 1963
Basic Training 1969
AFROTC Scholarship 1969-1973
Active duty 1973-2001
Retired 2001
Recalled 2002 released 2002
AF Blue through and through

01coltcolt
12-07-2007, 13:11
Basic Sept. 1992
11 combat zones, 2 short tours and 1 long tour later..................still on the flighline.

MrMurphy
12-07-2007, 14:00
Actually, everyone in my BTZ group that deployed got it. Everyone else didn't no matter how much we'd done (and that was a lot). Since the rest of us were simply waiting (and in some cases begging) to deploy we thought that was kind of crappy.

On the still-an-A1C I have screwed up knees now thx to the AF, I can not run a regular Pt test (sprints, sure...distance running, no). I was put on the bike test, passed, maxed the situp/pushups, or near enough, and then they told me "you're 2 inches too big. Lose weight". Being 5'9 and 195lb at 30 years old, i don't know where they expect it to go, but I'm trying.

I'm just trying to survive the next 1.2 years or so and get out.

Hoser
12-07-2007, 18:20
In since 88. Still flying.

uscmas412
12-07-2007, 23:40
I head to Officer Training School on January 30th, 2008. I hope to do at least 20 years, but only time will tell.

crewdog252
12-08-2007, 00:59
On active duty since May 96 as an F-15 crew chief. I will put on Tech Jan 1. Stationed here at Kadena as an expediter. I'm ready to get back to the States and get back to my guns. The flightline has a way of draining your will to live for sure!

Skycop1
12-08-2007, 06:28
In since 91 and cross trained from radiology to OSI in 98. Still serving.

01coltcolt
12-08-2007, 08:47
On active duty since May 96 as an F-15 crew chief. I will put on Tech Jan 1. Stationed here at Kadena as an expediter. I'm ready to get back to the States and get back to my guns. The flightline has a way of draining your will to live for sure!
I was at Kadena from Nov 2000-Apr 2006 expediting on the flightline for weapons. How long have you been there, and what squadron? We probably know each other.

meeko
12-08-2007, 13:31
Actually, everyone in my BTZ group that deployed got it. Everyone else didn't no matter how much we'd done (and that was a lot). Since the rest of us were simply waiting (and in some cases begging) to deploy we thought that was kind of crappy.

On the still-an-A1C I have screwed up knees now thx to the AF, I can not run a regular Pt test (sprints, sure...distance running, no). I was put on the bike test, passed, maxed the situp/pushups, or near enough, and then they told me "you're 2 inches too big. Lose weight". Being 5'9 and 195lb at 30 years old, i don't know where they expect it to go, but I'm trying.

I'm just trying to survive the next 1.2 years or so and get out.

Forgive me for getting off thread! sorry about you knees man, Make darn sure you go through the VA when you get out. You have earned anything you have coming!

The weight thing is one thing that I never understood about the AF. For one it seems like it's a selective enforcement issue (just by looking around). 2. the AF does not consider that there is a big difference between someone that is overweight and someone that is just farmboy big. As far as Security Forces go as loog as they can fight when I need someone backing me up at the NCO club etc I don't care!

MrMurphy
12-08-2007, 18:38
That's the funny thing. I can run up and down every mountain in Germany in full armor, DAPS, MICH and rifle. I can RUN with an M240, 800 rounds and a barrel in armor for a hundred yards (some people can't even pick all that up) if the rounds are in a backpack not a can.

I can wrestle someone pretty good and do the job. I just can't run 1.5 miles. Forceshaping is in my future.

Kalmah
12-08-2007, 19:53
Enlisted 1989-1993
Commissioned 2001-Present
Separated active duty 2006, currently USAFR

crewdog252
12-09-2007, 07:14
I'm in Blue and have been here since May 06.

ks farmboy
12-09-2007, 10:40
i have to agree with you two and the pt business. i havenot had a 32 inch waist since the 7th grade. im 5'11'', 230. i wrestled for 11 years, including 2 in a junior college, and can lift a pretty good amount of weights. but as far as the af in concerned, im not inshape. i think its bull****. i can max out pushups, do about 50 situps, and get a 12:00 on the run. but with a 38 inch waist, i fail. go figure.

najaboy
12-09-2007, 10:54
i have to agree with you two and the pt business. i havenot had a 32 inch waist since the 7th grade. im 5'11'', 230. i wrestled for 11 years, including 2 in a junior college, and can lift a pretty good amount of weights. but as far as the af in concerned, im not inshape. i think its bull****. i can max out pushups, do about 50 situps, and get a 12:00 on the run. but with a 38 inch waist, i fail. go figure.
I find it hard to take the PT test seriously when there's so much inconsistency from unit to unit, and even within the same unit. For example, we have someone in my own shop that's pushing 300 pounds. He passes with flying colors every time, despite the fact that his abdominal circumference is somewhere around 50", it is physically impossible for him to be able to do crunches, and he cannot keep up with any of us when walking at a brisk pace to the base theater for Commander's Call- a distance well short of the 3 miles he's required to walk for his test.

EH3
12-09-2007, 14:32
I head to Officer Training School on January 30th, 2008. I hope to do at least 20 years, but only time will tell.

Have fun at Maxwell. BOT or COT? Oh and be happy you aren't going to be there in the summer, the heat/humidity isn't fun. I did my time there summer 06. Finishing up rotc currently, going active in May.

b52ace
12-09-2007, 21:27
ROTC scholarship '71, commissioned '75, retired '04 - 28 yrs active duty.

uscmas412
12-10-2007, 13:49
Have fun at Maxwell. BOT or COT? Oh and be happy you aren't going to be there in the summer, the heat/humidity isn't fun. I did my time there summer 06. Finishing up rotc currently, going active in May.

BOT. I was a NAV select from the 07-01 board. I'm definitely glad to be going in the winter, but I have a feeling April will be quite humid.

EH3
12-10-2007, 14:02
BOT. I was a NAV select from the 07-01 board. I'm definitely glad to be going in the winter, but I have a feeling April will be quite humid.

Not as bad as june/july :supergrin:

The BOTs were cool, at least the one's I talked to were, didn't get a lot of time to interact with them though. Congrats on being nav select, I went up the same board also and got nav too, I'm heading to Randolph next fall.

uscmas412
12-10-2007, 14:24
Unless I get picked up for a WSO slot and go to Pensacola, I'll see you there.

dewidmt
12-13-2007, 17:29
Enlisted in Jan '84', out in Oct 2004. Enjoyed every minute of it. But if you VOLUNTARILY retire, they won't let you back in. I tried to go Guard in 2006 and was told "no way".

gamingoddess
12-13-2007, 18:16
Enlisted in July 2001, 9/11 happened during tech school, was as patriotic as ever....and I still am! Stationed in Barksdale AFB, went to Kadena AB for 3 years as a munitions troop, then everything came to a screeching halt when I got orders to Cannon AFB, NM. I am still here, but if not for being in the middle of nowhere, I never would have been interested in guns in the first place (awesome range here!). It's great being in a state with lenient gun laws and I'm lovin' it. Crosstrained to IM..CSA..so we'll see what happens from here.

ChrisK
12-16-2007, 15:15
Enlisted November 1977 Active Duty
Separated September 1992
Enlisted December 2002 USAFR
WILL RETIRE DECEMBER 2010

mbramsa
12-16-2007, 20:01
Enlisted March 1999
July 1999 - March 2004 SSG, Maxwell AFB, Gunter Annex
March 2004 - March 2006 NATO Programming Centre, Glons Belgium
March 2006 - Present 453 EWS, Lackland AFB

I'm a 3C0x2 for now, made TSgt this cycle and I'm getting NCORP'd. I'm applying for 9S100, 1N1 and 1N0. Depending on how this next job goes I'm planning on doing 20.

southparkaddict
12-16-2007, 21:33
1992 - 1994
46th Test Group, Holloman AFB, NM

Left early because a) Clinton said I could and b) I had gotten the training I needed for the civilian world.

Would I have stayed? Yes...on one condition - if the money was better. Wife and one kid, no problem ..now, wife and 3 kids ...umm, not so much :)

finz50
12-18-2007, 07:58
Active duty Sep '99- AFROTC, Det 790, Tennesee State University
Jan '00- May '00- Columbus AFB, MS
May '00- Jun '03- Cannon AFB, NM (F-16C/D)....welcome to HELL!!!
Jun '03- May '06- Moody AFB, GA (CSAR...HC-130P/ HH-60G)
May '06- Present- Ft Eustis, VA (Helicopter Crew Chief Tech School)

spectre381
12-19-2007, 01:39
Enlisted active duty in Mar 1984...

Pope AFB, NC
RAF Alconbury, UK
Hurlburt Fld, FL
Lansing, MI
Vandenberg AFB, CA

Served in SWA for Desert Shield, Desert Storm, and Provide Comfort I

countless TDYs and deployments around the world... set foot in 27 different countries in 22 years

retired from active duty in Mar 2006

Wouldn't change a single thing!! Loved it, but after 22 yrs it was time to move on and start a new chapter. Now I'm a contractor working in SWA... again!

Thanks to all for your service... whether you did one tour or took it to retirement!

Deamer
01-07-2008, 23:56
Enlisted active duty Nov 1989
Vandenberg AFB, CA 1990-2003
Edwards AFB, CA 2003-present
Will be able to retire in a little less than two years!

hmb
01-08-2008, 15:38
28 years and I would do it all over again. 6 years in the UK and 7 years in Turkey. 8 of my last 11 years were overseas.

HMB

EODLRD
01-08-2008, 19:58
Enlisted: June 2001
Seperated: 2007

Happy that I am out? Sorta. Miss EOD more than I can say, but I do NOT miss the AF. I experienced many of the same issues that MrMurphy is talking about. I was fit enough to do everything. 12minute or less 1.5m runs, good on situp and max on pushups. But I always had a big waist. (about 40")

I guess I was fit enough to put on a 80+lb bomb suit and disarm bombs, but not fit enough for the air force.

Its all good tho. I am out and I got a job with the feds and am on our tactical response team. :)

MedivacRN
01-10-2008, 16:28
1997-Sept 10, 2001 (That was my original seperation date-did not get recalled). Entire time at Edwards AFB. Medical.

Sept 2001-Aug 2005 Married to the USAF. Stationed with my wife at Edwards and Hanscom.

Wife seperated in 2005 after 11 years. I almost took a commission in the Army Reserves, then came to my senses.

wrench3
01-11-2008, 18:58
Enlisted 1981, Stationed @ Columbus AFB and Clark AB, PI.
Seperated 1987.
Commissioned 2002 with the Navy:shocked:
Transferred to USAFR in 2003.:cool:
Stationed @ Pittsburgh ARS, Andrews AFB, and now Youngstown ARS.

MrMurphy
01-11-2008, 22:55
Enlisted May, 2005.

Currently deployed.

405dave
01-12-2008, 08:42
Enlisted '86
Tech. school Chanute afb, IL.
Fairchild afb, WA.
Zaragoza ab, Spain
Pope afb, NC.
Osan ab, Korea
Kirtland afb. NM.
Tinker afb, OK
Mcguire afb, NJ.
1A171 Flight Engineer E-3 & KC10
Retired Jan. '07

torrejon224
01-12-2008, 17:17
Enlisted in 1971, retired as SMSgt in 1988 on full disability. Haven't set foot on a military base since then and have no intention of starting!! Law Enforcement Specialist, Security Specialist, AFOSI Special Agent, JDET Task Force Member.
--Lackland
--Cam Bullis
--Griffiss AFB NY
--Torrejon AB Spain
--Mannheim Germany
--Pittman Station, Nevada
--Tolicha Peak AFS Nevada
--Eugene, Oregon (Recruiting)
--Anchorage Alaska (Recruiting)
--Elmendorf AFB
--Nellis AFB
Numerous TDY's throughout SEA, Germany, Turkey, Israel, Lebanon, Sicily, Italy, Spain, Greece, Morocco, Honduras, Grenada, Panama and Columbia

Deamer
01-15-2008, 00:36
I guess AFMC wasnt getting enough people kicked out using the new AF fitness standards. We just got a policy letter saying they are starting a BMI measurement program. So from what I gather even though I passed all my tests and got a passing score I will be put on the program because of my BMI.

Sluf01
01-15-2008, 13:02
1976-2004.. Retired MSgt. 7 years as a "Skycop" and the rest of my career in "Airfield Management and Flight Operations".. Best time of my life, and I miss it everyday. Started in SAC (KC-135A) went to TAC (A-7D/K), assigned back to SAC (KC-135E) after the A-7D's were forced to retire and in one year we were SAC, MAC, AMC after the Berlin wall and the Russian Bear went away (for a while). The 112TFG/112ARG went away and the 146TFS went to the 146ARS now assigned to the 171ARW.. Would I do it again?? You bet!!

Scottech
01-16-2008, 13:11
1979 :wow:

Retired in 1999. :supergrin:

I miss the great people and the bases and places but I don't miss the job.

torrejon224
01-17-2008, 17:59
Oh yes the good old "Fat Boy" programs. It had nothing to do with height/weight or whether you could run it was all about how thick your knee pads were. I loved and miss the AF but I sure don't miss the politics!

jtshombre
01-19-2008, 19:54
Grew up in the AF, stationed all over, Wurtsmith AFB, Torrejon, Westover AFB, Kadena AFB, Kincheloe AFB, Malmstrom AFB, enlisted in 7/73 delayed entry, went active 10/73, got out 9/77. Security Police Patrol Dog Handler, do I miss it, nah, I went in to be a lifer, but the military in the early 70's with Vietnam winding down was about a screwed up mess as I've ever seen. Military people were about as popular as NRA members at a convention of members of Handgun Control, INC. I don't regret it, the GI Bill paid for my B.S., and I've been a fed since '82.

Take care fellow blue suiters...

sigpro357
01-20-2008, 20:07
I was in from 1996-2000. 3C2X1 (Computer Communications System Control) Tech Control. It allowed me to get a good job on the outside that pays very well. I miss the Air Force alot sometimes, and wonder if getting out was the right thing. From what I understand from some of my friends times are getting lean in the Air Force. IE Don't expect to keep doing the same job throughout, and that they are letting people go when they can. They say they are over strengthed. What are the details Murphy? Is the Air Force shuffling people around?

k9cop33
01-22-2008, 13:55
1997-2006. I relish every moment I am free from the confines of the chair force, since I was a cop, and most of the people who were cops did not want to be but had to be and the simple fact that now every hour I work past my normal shift I get paid time and a half and get paid double on holidays, I think we are better off. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the fact that there is no more stress. I the air force was the same now as it was in 1997 I probably would have stayed, but like they say there are way too many chiefs and not enough indians.

BayouL
01-22-2008, 15:30
1979-2001 and it was time to go. Decided to retire when I made E-8 and they wanted to send me back to Korea.

Started out in POL and finished in Computer Programming. Made Master before cross-training, which hurt promotion potential for many years, but I'm glad I made the move. I was going to school for Computer Science and cross training into the computer programming field may sense to me at the time and has paid of well on the outside.

I will say that the Bentwaters assignment was great. During war, we would've had to go to four forward operating locations in Germany. Our Super felt we should know our way around them, since rotations back to the world shuffled who went where. Those of us that were there for extended longs got to go to all four; what fun!

Some parts I do miss, mostly all from my POL days.

1979-1980 Basic and Tech School
1980-1983 POL England AFB (A7 and A10)
1983-1986 POL RAF Bentwaters (A10)
1986-1990 POL Ellsworth AFB (B1 and KC/EC 135)
1990-1991 POL Kunsan AB (F-16)
1991-1993 POL Charleston AFB (C141 and C17)
1993-2001 COM Langley AFB (F15)

Morris
01-26-2008, 05:23
Lemme see, in 1988, decided to visit Happy Lackland. Worked as a loader on F15s for a bit at HoHo Holloman until budget cuts in 1990. Joined ANG in 1990 and played with guns via CATM until 1992. Thought I'd be all high speed/low drag so I joined the ANG TACP unit until 1999.

Regret getting out? Yeah, caved to pressure from my new police chief who told me either I quit the Guard or he could find a replacement for me at the PD. If I had stayed in, I'd near 20 now. I'd been a senior. Of course I'd been to SWA a few times too and had a wife who had divorced me. Best job of all three? Enjoyed the TACP, loved the CATM more (in retrospect).

Trini
01-30-2008, 11:37
Enlisted Aug 1969
Ellsworth AFB, SD Dec 69 - July 70
Kimpo AB, ROK July 70 - Aug 71
Whiteman AFB, MO Aug 1971 - Aug 73 ( Discharge)
USAFR May 75 - Jan 78
NAG - Jan 78 - Nov 80
USAFR - Nov 80 - Aug 03 Retired with 34 years service in SP/SF
OEF Oct 01 - Apr 03

klt1986
01-30-2008, 19:43
T-38 crew chief from 1987 thru 1990. I miss the friends and good times but not some of the BS you had to put up with.

wyattearp
01-30-2008, 23:08
USAF 1977-1981 Crew chief RF-4C Phantom, stationed at Bergstrom AFB and Zweibrucken AB. Loved every day except the first 45. Still patriotic and have a son in the USMC. Have looked back a few times and miss the camaraderie and military grade equipment. Don't miss OD green so much. I would go again if they would take a 48 year old Ssgt.

SCUBASIGGUY
02-01-2008, 22:20
Spent 8.5 years at Barksdale. I miss the people and the TDY's, not the politics. I miss the Buff's a little too.

I would definitely do it again because I have some great friends all over the world because of it.

I was very close to going to the Corps insteaad of the AF and that is the only decision that I still question. Wvery that meets me guesses Corp first, AF last :cool:

meangenedrlove
02-03-2008, 15:19
I went through Basic Training in April-May 1996. I'm a F-16 Crew Chief. I've never regretted enlisting nor staying in. I've been stationed at Nellis, Kunsan, Spangdahlem, Cannon, and I am going back to Kunsan in 4 weeks. After Kunsan I'll be at Kadena.

Waterwagonboom
02-03-2008, 19:02
12 Jan '72-01 Feb 96. KC-135 boom operator all the way. Had great times and not so great times. A friend pointed out that I had flown around the world three times and been to war (Vietnam) twice before I was old enough to buy a drink at home.

I'd do it all over again!

TarzanT
02-04-2008, 01:29
12 Jan '72-01 Feb 96. KC-135 boom operator all the way. Had great times and not so great times. A friend pointed out that I had flown around the world three times and been to war (Vietnam) twice before I was old enough to buy a drink at home.

I'd do it all over again!

Where did you "lay on your belly and pass gas"?

I enlisted Feb 2000 and went to BUFF school at Carswell. Dyess followed and (1980 - 1984) then to Castle (1984-1988). Got sent to Offutt to work in (of all things) Tanker Operations doing Airspace Management and Fighter Training Management from 1988-1992. Took a little side trip to Diego Garcia from 1990-1991 and flew the last B-52 off the island in May 1991. When SAC went away, I took the plunge and went to AF Special Operations. Spent the rest of my time in-and-out of crappy places with people shoot my direction. At least I had the beaches of NW Florida to come home to. I retired in 2000, but was asked to come back after 9/11. However, instead of putting on the flight suit, the 'powers that be' made me a Government Slave and sent me on numerous visits to hot sandy places. It didn't matter what continent, if it was hot and had sand, I was going. I can now stick around until it comes time to collect Social Security... A lot of people have said they would do it again - I AM doing it again!

Waterwagonboom
02-04-2008, 15:18
Where did you "lay on your belly and pass gas"?


K.I. Siberia, Mather, Castle, Carswell, and Fairchild. We were at Castle at the same time! I was in the 93rd ARS from Dec 84 to 87 when I moved to CFIC and became the head boom and first shirt. The only place in SAC where BUF gunners worked for a Boomer! I loved that job and the people.

How could you not love this?

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x211/135boomer_photos/mikes22.jpg

And that was rolling out!

And the view from the other end of the boom...

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x211/135boomer_photos/Whiff0012.jpg

TarzanT
02-04-2008, 15:32
I was teaching academics the last few years at Castle. I was also to H to G difference instructor so I got to teach all the new CEVG guys. I vividly remember doing those AR "whiffs" - closest I even came to loosing my cookies was when I tried turning around from the ditching hammock and looking out the center window. The horizon was definitely in the wrong place and my gyros instantly caged! I do agree - teaching at the school house, flying with new students, and filling in at CFIC was very rewarding and downright fun! Benny Heald was at SAC HQ with me tried to talk me into cross training to boom when the gunners went away.

Waterwagonboom
02-04-2008, 15:57
Ben was a good guy. He never tried to tell me how to run things at CFIC. Other chief booms can't say the same.

All the people at CFIC were fantastic. The bomber drivers found out that I had never been inside a Buf. They came up with an elaborate plan to kidnap me and stuff me on one on the hammerhead. They even got the Wing Commander's and DO's permission! Well, I got word of this and spent the day in the high Sierras trout fishing. I was between classes so nobody cared if I was in the office or not. I sure miss those days.

This will make your heart skip a beat. It would make a good avatar!

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x211/135boomer_photos/SACshield001.jpg

TarzanT
02-04-2008, 16:18
Awesome!

BTW - the gunner tradition lives on... We just made CMSAF Binnicker an Honorary Gunner. He lives at Eglin and had fallen into cahoots with some retired gunners and a couple of gunner widows (did you know John Cox at Carswell - his widow lives in the Enlisted Widows home and has been keeping the local Buff gunners together). C'est la vie.