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12-10-2007, 11:47
This PAFOA alert is forwarded on behalf of our fine partners the Allegheny County Sportsmen's League and the Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association:

Please read and take action!

The text of HB641 (Castle Doctrine) can be found at:

This alert can be discussed on our forum at:

Daniel Pehrson
Founder & President
Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association


Allegheny County Sportsmen's League, Inc.
Pennsylvania Sportsmen’s Association


December 10, 2007


Issue: Pending Judiciary Committee Action – House Bill 641

On Tuesday December 11, the House Judiciary Committee will finally consider legislation that will help to reduce violent crime in Pennsylvania. HB 641 (Castle Doctrine) by Rep. Cappelli.

The bill will not make it out of committee unless you generate support. Please contact the members of the Judiciary Committee and let them know that you support this legislation.

HB 641 does not change the use of force requirements. What it does do is eliminate the honest citizens duty to retreat when confronted by violent criminals and provide honest citizens with legal protection if they defend themselves from criminals. It contains an anti-carjacking provision that will change state law so that if a criminal illegally and forcibly enters an occupied vehicle, the presumption is that he intends to harm the passengers. Protections against civil actions are also provided, should your assailant or his relatives sue you for harming the criminal when you defended yourself.

This legislation has been enacted in nearly twenty states and is pending in even more.

Killers are more concerned about law-abiding citizens than police having firearms. This was proven in the Wright-Rossi study and more recently by the example that the Columbine killers (Dylan and Klebold) "shared opposition to a bill in the state legislature that would have made it easier to carry concealed weapons" (NYT, 6/29/1999).

The Pennsylvania Legislative Black Caucus, in collusion with Ed Rendell and others, walked off the floor of the house this past Wednesday demanding the surrender of OUR gun rights and vowing not to return unless GUN CONTROL bills are passed. Rendell, Operation Ceasefire, and the usual antigun mayors will be gathering in Harrisburg Monday 10 Dec 2007 to demand MORE gun control. They will be lobbying the Judiciary committee in opposition to this legislation and our right to be free from unwarranted persecution by anti-gun authorities.

It is up to each of us once again to see to it that this legislation is passed into law and it all begins on Tuesday the 11th of December.

Members of the House Judiciary Committee are listed below (Please focus on the Pro-gun and Undecided legislators once again):

**Representatives listed below are Committee Leadership

State Representative Thomas R. Caltagirone (D-127), Majority Chairman
106 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202127
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2127
(717) 787-3525
Fax: (717) 772-5401

State Representative Ron Marsico (R-105), Minority Chairman
218 Ryan Office Building
PO Box 202105
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2105
(717) 783-2014
Fax: (717) 705-2010

State Representative Daylin Leach (D-149), Secretary
109A East Wing
PO Box 202149
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2149
(717) 783-9114
Fax: (717) 787-0861

**Representatives listed below are Pro 2nd Amendment

State Representative Deberah Kula (D-52)
104A East Wing
PO Box 202052
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2052
(717) 772-1858
Fax: (717) 780-4784

State Representative Joseph A. Petrarca (D-55)
220 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202055
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2055
(717) 787-5142
Fax: (717) 705-2014

State Representative Jesse White (D-46)
102B East Wing
PO Box 202046
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2046
(717) 783-6437

State Representative Tom C. Creighton (R-37)
400 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202037
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2037
(717) 772-5290
Fax: (717) 783-1904

State Representative Craig A. Dally (R-138)
211 Ryan Office Building
PO Box 202138
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2138
(717) 783-8573
Fax: (717) 705-1849

State Representative John R. Evans (R-5)
B12 Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202005
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2005
(717) 772-9940
Fax: (717) 772-7099

State Representative Will Gabig (R-199)
410 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202199
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2199
(717) 772-2280
Fax: (717) 705-2012

State Representative Glen R. Grell (R-87)
404 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202087
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2087
(717) 783-2063
Fax: (717) 772-8418

State Representative Beverly Mackereth (R-196)
7 East Wing
PO Box 202196
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2196
(717) 783-2655
Fax: (717) 772-9869

State Representative Todd Rock (R-90)
162A East Wing
PO Box 202090
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2090
(717) 783-5218
Fax: (717) 260-6505

State Representative Katie True (R-41)
143A East Wing
PO Box 202041
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2041
(717) 705-7161
Fax: (717) 705-1946

State Representative Tina Pickett (R-110)
155A East Wing
PO Box 202110
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2110
(717) 783-8238
Fax: (717) 705-1949

State Representative John E. Pallone (D-54)
325 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202054
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2054
(717) 783-1819
Fax: (717) 772-9984

State Representative Don Walko (D-20)
121 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202020
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2020
(717) 787-5470
Fax: (717) 783-0407

State Representative Sean M. Ramaley (D-16)
323 Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202016
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2016
(717) 787-4444

State Representative Carl W. Mantz (R-187)
53B East Wing
PO Box 202187
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2187
(717) 787-3017
Fax: (717) 772-9869

**Representatives listed below are Uncommitted on these issues

State Representative Kate Harper (R-61)
149A East Wing
PO Box 202061
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2061
(717) 787-2801
Fax: (717) 787-2022

State Representative Bernie O'Neill (R-29)
B13 Main Capitol Building
PO Box 202029
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2029
(717) 705-7170
Fax: (717) 783-3278

**Representatives listed below are dedicated Anti 2nd Amendment Fanatics

State Representative Kathy Manderino (D-194)
125 East Wing
PO Box 202194
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2194
(717) 787-1254
Fax: (717) 780-4770

State Representative Lisa Bennington (D-21)
6A East Wing
PO Box 202021
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2021
(717) 705-7011
Fax: (717) 780-4761

State Representative Dan Frankel (D-23)
217 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202023
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2023
(717) 705-1875
Fax: (717) 705-2034

State Representative Harold James (D-186)
317 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202186
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2186
(717) 787-9477
Fax: (717) 787-7517

State Representative Greg Vitali (D-16)
103B East Wing
PO Box 202166
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2166
(717) 787-7647
Fax: (717) 705-2089

State Representative Jewell Williams (D-197)
101 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202197
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2197
(717) 772-2004
Fax: (717) 787-2284

State Representative Chelsa Wagner (D-22)
109 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202022
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2022
(717) 783-1582
Fax: (717) 780-4755

State Representative Bryan R. Lentz (D-161)
106B East Wing
PO Box 202161
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2161
(717) 787-8574
Fax: (717) 780-4777

The grassroots organizations observing and tracking this bill are listed below:
Allegheny County Sportsmen's League (ACSL),
Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs (PFSC),
Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association (PSA),
National Rifle Association (NRA),
Gun Owners of America (GOA),
Second Amendment Sisters (SAS),
Pennsylvania Rifle and Pistol Association (PR&PA),
Pennsylvania Gun Collectors Association (PGCA)
Lehigh Valley Firearms Coalition (LVFC),
Philadelphia Federation of Sportsmen's Club,
Pennsylvania Gun Owners Association (PGOA)
Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania (USP)
Pennsylvania State Fish & Game Protective Association,
The Pink Pistols
Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association (PAFOA)
National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSA)
Western Pennsylvania 30 Caliber League, Inc

**(FOAC) Firearms Owners Against Crime records all votes related to firearms and the constitutional connections thereof. Mitigating factors are taken into consideration when reviewing these votes such as presenting on record concerns during debate on legislation and will be so noted in the record for each legislator.

We DEEPLY appreciate your patience and help with this very important step forward for our Freedoms and we will do our BEST to keep you informed on the developments ahead!


Kim Stolfer
Legislative Committee, Chairman
Allegheny County Sportsmen's League
E-Mail --
Website --
(412) 221-3346, Home Phone
(412) 257-1099, Home Fax

Harry Schneider
Legislative Committee, Chairman
Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association


12-11-2007, 16:43
Any update on this?

12-11-2007, 21:35
Representative Caltagirone, head of the House Judiciary Committee gave in to pressure from certain Democratic members of the House yesterday and opted to pull HB641 from consideration by the committee today as previously reported.

From the reports we've heard it appears as though the usual suspects from Philadelphia involved in constantly trying to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms have thrown yet another temper tantrum and threatened to take their ball and go home if this legislation was considered.

The good news is that it appears Representative Cappelli is attempting to force the issue by adding HB641 as an amendment to Senate Bill 436 in an attempt to have the bill debated.

Please see Representative Cappelli's website for in depth information on his actions regarding this bill:

It is important now that firearm owners do two things:

1) Contact your representatives and politely, but strongly voice your support for HB641. If you do not know who your representatives are you can find our by visiting:

2) Contact Representative Caltagirone's office and politely voice your extreme displeasure with his capitulation to the minority members of the House by withdrawing HB641 from consideration. His contact information is as follows:

106 Irvis Office Building
PO Box 202127
Harrisburg, PA 17120-2127
(717) 787-3525
Fax: (717) 772-5401

As always this issue can be discussed on our message boards at: