View Full Version : I Dont buy gas from Citgo.....
m1garande
12-14-2007, 10:44
A lot of people are now into this dont buy from Citgo because of Chavez....
Im not saying I do or dont... I just want to know how you feel about this and what other things do you or other people do that is similar to this.
i drove past a citgo just the other day and stopped at the next station to fill up for .05 more per gallon.
BOB THEDOG
12-14-2007, 10:56
Nope, dont do it.
I can't think of another business off hand that was as blatantly anti American as Citgo.
I haven't since Chavez took over.
ElevatedThreat
12-14-2007, 11:05
Anybody else want to puke when they see those "Joe (Kennedy) For Oil" spots on TV?
Joe Kennedy makes a VERY nice living collecting money from wealthy people afflicted with Liberal Guilt and redistributing it to Venezuela -- with a WHOLE LOT of it sticking to his fingers along the way.
I wonder if he has had to register as a foreign lobbyist?
-ET
Grape Ape
12-14-2007, 11:13
Stupid.
ALL the major oil companies buy crude from Venezuela and gasoline from each other. So you could be putting Venezuelan crude based gas in your tank anyway
HerrGlock
12-14-2007, 11:16
My car likes Techron too much for me to go just about anywhere else than Chevron.
TacticalTina
12-14-2007, 11:18
Stupid.
ALL the major oil companies buy crude from Venezuela and gasoline from each other. So you could be putting Venezuelan crude based gas in your tank anyway
+1
Just like boycotting Exxon/Mobil because their prices are too high.
They're not going to go out of business either way...I'll buy my gas where it's cheapest thankyouverymuch.
Thread Title: I don't buy gas from Citgo
Then you declare: "Im not saying I do or dont..."
Odd Contradiction.
Why would you not state your position, (after contradicting yourself) but want to know others?
You're one very confused cookie.
Biscuitsjam
12-14-2007, 11:30
Most (all?) Citgo gas stations are locally-owned franchises. The parties hurt worst are the locals who own the station, not the evil Venezualan government. However, I don't want ANY more of my money than necessary to end up in their hands.
I drive past citgos even if they have lower gas prices. The only exception is when I'm at the lake. There are only two gas stations nearby and the other consistently sells bad gas.
grindchug
12-14-2007, 11:31
So I assume you guys do not shop at wal-mart either and only buy American made things too?
BOB THEDOG
12-14-2007, 11:47
+1
Just like boycotting Exxon/Mobil because their prices are too high.
They're not going to go out of business either way...I'll buy my gas where it's cheapest thankyouverymuch.
It's symbolic. Grow a pair.
HollowHead
12-14-2007, 12:13
It should be noted that Citgo makes all the Harley-Davidson branded lubricants. HH
PeterJasonMN
12-14-2007, 12:20
If you use any Diamond Match products (under Jarden Home Brands), you're also contributing to Citgo's profits.
Citgo does not have too much influence up here in the Tundra. There's one or two stores, but of course one is in the little one-horse town I grew up in.
However, Citgo DID make a fuel donation to the local indian reservation that's nearby. Now before you go imagining something from the movies, this particular reservation has two casinos, multiple industries (construction, propane, etc etc) and is one of, if not THE most successful overall tribe in MN. There was no -need- for it, but they took it and it hit the media hard here for a week or two.
the iceman
12-14-2007, 12:25
Gas is gas, I could care less anymore. If they don't get my dollar, they will get someone elses.
I'd like to ask Chavez for some of that free oil he was offering last year!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6154806
7-11's were the citgo stations around here. Not anymore. :)
Most (all?) Citgo gas stations are locally-owned franchises. The parties hurt worst are the locals who own the station, not the evil Venezualan government.
they need to do business with some other partners
Does it even matter? Most stations get their gas from the local refinery. The Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, Texaco or whomever else near the Citgo are more than likely getting the same gas from wherever the closest refinery is.
yes, it does matter. when venezuela purchased Citgo from Southland, they likely paid more money for Citgo than just the value of the assets, and attributed the difference to "goodwill", an intangible asset that represents the value of Citgo's business relationships and the willingness of the fuel buying public to do business with it. Due to Chavez's actions in calling for the downfall of our United States, the value of that goodwill should be reduced to zero, and the way that adjustment is made is for the American consumer to stop doing business with that brand, and make it as worthless as hugo Chavez is.
I will not buy gas from Citgo stations. Other stations meet their prices anyway and I do not want to support anything to do with Chavez.
+1
Just like boycotting Exxon/Mobil because their prices are too high.
They're not going to go out of business either way...I'll buy my gas where it's cheapest thankyouverymuch.
In my area, Citgo is the cheapest.
It's symbolic. Grow a pair.
Please do not take this advice Tina, that would just be creepy.
I don't buy at Citgo, but according to their site there aren't any here anyway. The Safeway has the cheapest prices here (after "member" discount) and it's a mile from my house and my office.
Mak Maven
12-14-2007, 15:57
No Citgo or arab oils.
I buy Sunoco, Hess or BP. My understanding they all come from Ak.
silentpoet
12-14-2007, 16:00
Though I am a Christian, I don't often agree with Pat Robertson. But the more I think about it, the more he is right about how we should handle Chavez.
E85 my friend E85.
http://www.cedarflute.com/corn/cornstove/bumperstickersm.jpg
I don't want anymore $ going to arabs or chavez, period.
http://sitemaker.umich.edu/section7group6/files/ethanol_corn-pump.jpg
stevelyn
12-14-2007, 16:20
I buy from whoever gives me the best price. Chavez is no different than the arab trash we already do business with.
And if ol' Hugo offers deeply discounted fuel oil again I'm getting in line.
E85 my friend E85.
I don't want anymore $ going to arabs or chavez, period.[/img]
Yeah, thanks bud, the impact of Ethanol on the market price of corn is at least in part why my kids milk is now pushing $4 a gallon... :wavey: Unless they come up with the super enzyme, Ethanol will ALWAYS be a net-energy LOSS.
But otherwise I agree, I pass up Citgo whenever I can. If small business owners are taking it in the shorts first, well, eventually they'll switch franchises and it'll impact Citgo Inc/Venezuela/Chavez.
No Citgo or arab oils.
I buy Sunoco, Hess or BP. My understanding they all come from Ak.
The station name is normally more or less meaningless on where the gas (or crude) originated from. It mostly depends on where the refinery is. Just because the station you pump from says Chevron, Mobil or Arco (BP) on it doesn't mean squat because most of the time the trucks get it from the same source...the closest refinery.
In my case I believe it's the Arco (BP) refinery in Carson.
Now the question is where does your refinery get the crude to refine it? It could be piped in from just about anywhere in the US (foreign or otherwise).
E85 my friend E85.
http://www.cedarflute.com/corn/cornstove/bumperstickersm.jpg
Which is great if you live near a cornfield, but as a whole isn't very useful to anyone else. Unless my information is incorrect, it's a net neutral fuel at best because it has to be trucked. They can't pipe it like regular fuel. I forget why unfortunately.
PeterJasonMN
12-14-2007, 16:29
All gas around here comes from good ol' Canadian crude.
I don't buy Citgo gas or Toshiba electronics.
Which is great if you live near a cornfield, but as a whole isn't very useful to anyone else. Unless my information is incorrect, it's a net neutral fuel at best because it has to be trucked. They can't pipe it like regular fuel. I forget why unfortunately.
Because Ethanol is insanely hygroscopic, which means it can't be handled in the normal petrochemical infrastructure, it'll soak up moisture and get ruined.
Which is why you actually put the alcohol in "HEET" into your tank as a curative to dry up your fuel system. It's also corrosive to ferrous metals, requiring special tanks and/or linings for some components too.
We get a big percentage of our oil from there; sooooo, you going to stop buying about 30 percent of your gas.
I don't buy from Citgo, but I probably buy plenty of their gas. Actually, we're the ones that refine their oil, because no one else can.
Yeah, thanks bud, the impact of Ethanol on the market price of corn is at least in part why my kids milk is now pushing $4 a gallon... :wavey: Unless they come up with the super enzyme, Ethanol will ALWAYS be a net-energy LOSS.
But otherwise I agree, I pass up Citgo whenever I can. If small business owners are taking it in the shorts first, well, eventually they'll switch franchises and it'll impact Citgo Inc/Venezuela/Chavez.
You're so right. Also, the gas used to make it comes from--guess where or at least a big percentage of it.
G36's Rule
12-14-2007, 17:08
E85 my friend E85.
http://www.cedarflute.com/corn/cornstove/bumperstickersm.jpg
I don't want anymore $ going to arabs or chavez, period.
http://sitemaker.umich.edu/section7group6/files/ethanol_corn-pump.jpg
Hehehehehe, yeah, you stick it to them...
:upeyes:
I wonder were the diesel comes from that powers the tractors and trucks that farm and ship the corn?
I wonder were the energy to turn the corn into ethanol comes from?
:rofl:
Hehehehehe, yeah, you stick it to them...
:upeyes:
I wonder were the diesel comes from that powers the tractors and trucks that farm and ship the corn?
I wonder were the energy to turn the corn into ethanol comes from?
:rofl:
Silly you! It comes from genetically engineered faeries provided gratis by Arthur Daniels Midland to benefit all of humanity! :tongueout:
Dennis in MA
12-14-2007, 17:35
Citgo says NO!
Won't do it.
Is my fuel coming from Venezuela? I dunno. But I won't support the dude. If his stations can't sell gas b/c people don't want it, it WILL hurt Chavez' pocket. Do you really think there is a disconnect between the gas sold at hte stations and the gas shipped here? Less gas at "his" stations, less gas he can import. Period.
Plus, it is symbolic. The dude is crappin on the American Flag every chance he gets. If enough people crapped on his brand-name, he'd be singin a completely different tune.
lethal tupperwa
12-14-2007, 19:59
isn't citgo trying to get around the aversion to chavez by changing the name to petro?
DC was on the tv as taking them up on the oil for "poor" people.
In outback Alaska they told him to take a hike.
IFAIK Pipelined Gasoline (ie from Texas Louisiana to the east coast) is all a mixture of the different refineries shipping fuel to an industry standard spec, but each company blends and sells its own additives package trucks sells and collects its own moneys
So Yeah if you don't Buy Citgo gas Hugo doesn't get Your Money.
He won't get mine
Citgo says NO!
Won't do it.
Is my fuel coming from Venezuela? I dunno. But I won't support the dude. If his stations can't sell gas b/c people don't want it, it WILL hurt Chavez' pocket. Do you really think there is a disconnect between the gas sold at hte stations and the gas shipped here? Less gas at "his" stations, less gas he can import. Period.
Plus, it is symbolic. The dude is crappin on the American Flag every chance he gets. If enough people crapped on his brand-name, he'd be singin a completely different tune.
Great post!!
My sentiments, exactly.
m1garande
05-14-2008, 19:03
I was quoting what other people say about it.
Thread Title: I don't buy gas from Citgo
Then you declare: "Im not saying I do or dont..."
Odd Contradiction.
Why would you not state your position, (after contradicting yourself) but want to know others?
You're one very confused cookie.
Anyone know who/where Costco buys it's gas from? That is where I buy my gas because it is always 11-14 cents cheaper than anyone else near my house.
Mikey444
05-14-2008, 19:17
Stupid.
ALL the major oil companies buy crude from Venezuela and gasoline from each other. So you could be putting Venezuelan crude based gas in your tank anyway
Correct. Even if everyone stopped buying from Citgo, they would still sell their crude to the highest bidder, and still make a whopping chunk of change.
The Citgo near me changed to a Valero last year. I heard it was because the owner wanted to dump the Citgo/Chavez name, but who owns Valero? (I have no clue)
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