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Norge
12-19-2007, 17:31
I was just looking at the UTA web site and noticed rider rule number 26:

http://www.rideuta.com/ridingUTA/riderRules.aspx

Dangerous weapons are prohibited on UTA buses unless under the direct control of a law enforcement officer or private security personnel licensed by the State.


WOW! Does anyone have any insight into this. I thought UTA was PUBLIC transportation.

This is what I sent to the UTA via their web site:


I have a question regarding rider rules number 26. As per rideuta.com, rule 26 states the following:

Dangerous weapons are prohibited on UTA buses unless under the direct control of a law enforcement officer or private security personnel licensed by the State.



As per Utah Code 76-10-523. Persons exempt from weapons laws. -- Part 2, any person with a concealed firearm permit is exempt from weapons laws except for those areas that are deemed secure (sanitized portion of the airport, courthouses, jails, and a few other places). Vehicles operated by the UTA are not part of this list.



The Utah Bureau of Criminal Investigation's web site (http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFLCarry.html), the state agency that issues the permits states the following:



It is lawful for a person with a concealed firearm permit to board a bus or a train or enter a terminal with a concealed firearm upon their person or effects. This also applies to law enforcement officers or commercial security personnel with firearms used in their employment.



It appears to me that UTA's restriction on concealed firearms permit holders bringing firearms on UTA vehicles is against the law and should be clarified on your website that concealed firearms permit holders are exempt from the rule as are security guards and law enforcement officers.

Thanks for your consideration in this matter.


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Comments Anyone?

UtahIrishman
12-19-2007, 17:53
Their rules aren't lawful. They're trying the same smoke screen that the U of U did . And the U got shutdown big time when they tried to ban guns on campus.

Public transportation is some of the most dangerous places you can be. I'd be packin' and not sayin' if I took a bus.

Unfortunately Greyhound Buses and Amtrak fall under Federal Jurisdiction and the ban there is lawful. I don't agree with it but there it is law.

UTA's ban is not law.

phox_mulder
12-19-2007, 20:28
I carry on Trax every day to and from work.

Been doing it for 5 years now.

No way I'm riding public transportation from the heart of Salt Lake City at 11pm to a dark deserted parking lot at 11:30pm unprotected.


phox

gsr
12-20-2007, 18:20
I've found that no matter where one goes, (so long as you aren't searched), if your piece is concealed, there are no issues.

Sambolijah
12-23-2007, 19:07
Just carry.
You won't get in trouble with the law (because it's not illegal) in the remote chance you're caught and called out for it.


I'd never ride UTA without one.

Steve Koski
12-23-2007, 21:22
At the feb 08 UDPL Handgun match (www.udpl.net) we're going to shoot a "Trax Attax" stage. I just wrote it up this afternoon. Should be fun.