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BillR
12-24-2007, 22:18
My youngest son leaves for Great Lakes (Navy bootcamp) on Jan 22nd. He's a tall, lanky guy w/not alot of meat on his bones, so I know he's gonna freeze his ***** off.:supergrin:
What else does he need to watch for? Any advice? (for him OR his parents...:dunno:)

Teapot
12-24-2007, 22:31
Finished Basic trng in Canada in June and it lasted 14 weeks. He needs to be able to do at least 19 push ups. Two tall guys in my platoon couldn't do them as their frame was so long.
Then there is the 19 hr work days and PT twice a day along with ruck sack marches and lots of verbal abuse and group punishment for the individuals failings that are a part of training that a lot of recruits find difficult to tolerate.

I am sure your son will do fine. It is only a matter of remembering that all one's buddies are going through the same thing. Knowing that really helps. That is where the bonding begins.
I wish him the best of luck in his endeavours.

Merry Christmas

squidville_1975
12-28-2007, 10:41
Finished Basic trng in Canada in June and it lasted 14 weeks. He needs to be able to do at least 19 push ups. Two tall guys in my platoon couldn't do them as their frame was so long.
Then there is the 19 hr work days and PT twice a day along with ruck sack marches and lots of verbal abuse and group punishment for the individuals failings that are a part of training that a lot of recruits find difficult to tolerate.

I am sure your son will do fine. It is only a matter of remembering that all one's buddies are going through the same thing. Knowing that really helps. That is where the bonding begins.
I wish him the best of luck in his endeavours.

Merry ChristmasCanada has a Navy? :rofl: :shocked:

RM
12-28-2007, 10:45
What is going to do in the Navy? Either way tell him to listen to his LPOs and Chiefs, keep his mouth shut till he has enough on the job to know how to do it and have some humility. The military is about the team and not the person, sometimes taking one for the team is more important than being the center of attention. *


Common sense said if he is told something that sound way out to lunch than to ask about it.

Derrin33
12-29-2007, 21:28
+1 to keeping your mouth shut. I went through boot in '02 and have been out the Navy about a yr now. "Eyes open, mouth closed, head on a swivel."

BillR
12-29-2007, 21:34
He's signed up to be an Aircraft Mechanic-Hydralics.
I've told him SEVERAL times about keeping his mouth closed. He's not mouthy anyway, but he's NOT a "morning person". He hates getting up early, and I told him that's "part of the deal!":supergrin:

robert7355
12-29-2007, 22:28
Bill:

Make sure he signed up for the GI Bill & College Fund. Also, when he gets to his permanent duty station he needs to find the satellite college campus on base. Most if not all bases have this. The Navy will give him tuition assistance to pay for school and it won't count against his GI Bill or College Fund $$$. There's no reason why he can't get a minimum of an Associate's during his 1st tour. Since he's going in to aviation field I would highly recommend Embry Riddle. They're a top-notch institution and have satellite campuses as well as online classes. They will also give credit for his Navy schools.
http://www.erau.edu/

behr70
01-03-2008, 00:18
Bill,

I think he will find recruit training challenging and rewarding. Instruction has come a long way in the last decade from the classroom through "Battle Stations", the final test. There are fitness standards and his recruiter should be running a pre-PT test prior to his departure for training. It is not that difficult. If he can perform 50 push ups, 50 sit ups, and run 1 1/2 miles in under 13 minutes he will do fine. He should of been given a "Delayed Entry Program" Booklet. This is for him to study and obtain naval knowledge on items such as rank, first aid, customs, abbreviations, and naval tradition. This will help him considerably in training and possibly help in accelerated advancement. As stated earlier when he arrives at recruit training he will be offered the Montgomery GI Bill. This is a one time offer. Do not turn it down. It amounts to 100.00 a month coming directly from his paycheck for 12 months. So 1200.00 total. This investment pays out just under 40,000 for college. It can be used anywhere from 2 years of service until 10 years after ones discharge. The navy also has tuition assistance, currently 100% up to 15 semester hours per year free. Here is a link for some more educational information including Embry-Riddle.

https://www.navycollege.navy.mil/rates/template.cfm?rate=AM

AM "A" Scool should be located in Pensacola, FL. A Beautiful place, I was stationed there for a number of years. He will be arriving just in time to constantly see the Blue Angels rehearsing for thier summer/fall shows.

Jay

Sturmgewehre
01-03-2008, 05:31
Tell your son we're all quite proud of him. Oh, and show him these pics. This is what it looks like up here right now. :D

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Forums/guns/Property/2008_property_3.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Forums/guns/Property/2008_property_2.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Forums/guns/Property/2008_property_1.jpg

ShootNMove
01-08-2008, 22:01
He'll pass the physical part no problem. If he can't, then he shouldn't serve anyway. I definitely agree that he should keep his mouth shut no matter how smart or capable he is. Tell him to just do his PQS and get warfare qualled ahead of his peers, that pretty much will guarantee you a good eval. What's he doing after boot camp?

ShootNMove
01-08-2008, 22:11
Okay, I see that he'll be an airdale, Pensacola is nice, I was just there last month. I would check out Arizona's benefits on college before electing for the GI Bill. I chose the GI bill but in my state, we have the Hazelwood act which gives you 150 credit hours tuition at a state school, BUT you have to use up your GI bill first. Career guys have little use for the GI Bill, had I elected a bonus, I could've invested it and been happier than with the GI Bill. If he plans on only doing his first enlistment and getting out, the gi bill can help.

One thing I would've done differently: Set up a Roth IRA before shipping out, and setting up an allotment to max it out every year. Retiring after 20 years on an enlisted salary is only possible if you have a good amount of money saved, another job, or you retire to a 3rd world country.

Also, prepare yourself for a lengthy deployments. He has a good chance of ending up on a carrier and they do the longest deployments in the Navy.

standerson
01-15-2008, 23:03
I've been retired from Uncle Sams Canoe Club for about 10 years.

1. You can learn more with your mouth shut than you can with it open.
2. Say "Yes and No Sir" to Officers NOT CHIEFS! He'll learn that the
hard way the first time he does it to a CPO. :whistling:
3. Repeat 1.
4. If he's not a morning person, he soon will be.
5. Tell him to get all the college credits he can while he is on active duty.
6. Repeat 1.

Tell him to get an overseas billet if at all possible. Travel and have a good time.

bubllehead
01-21-2008, 20:51
Canada has a Navy? :rofl: :shocked:

don't laugh. I went to a party with at least 2/3 of their Sub force in like 1990 and again in 92. Lots of Crown. love those guys. :drink::tequila:

tampashooters
01-21-2008, 21:33
+1 to keeping your mouth shut. I went through boot in '02 and have been out the Navy about a yr now. "Eyes open, mouth closed, head on a swivel."


+2

The only advice my Grandfather told me was to keep quiet, do what you are told, and don't stand out. Trust me, I saw the idiot's that didn't heed that advice! At the end of my boot camp (San Diego)... the company commanders were like.... uh, who are you? ....Bingo!

(Plankowner) & (Trusty Shellback...back before the wussies ruined it)

Tell him good luck, and express my gratitude for joining....

BillR
01-21-2008, 21:39
He just left for bootcamp a little while ago this afternoon. :worried:
I knew today was coming, but it's not any easier. The house is WAY too quiet.
Tomorrow for him will NOT be quiet, though.:drillsgt::supergrin:
I passed along all of the "keep your mouth shut" advice; his recruiter told him the same thing.

Glolt20-91
01-25-2008, 01:59
Well, good luck, this is not the time of year I would pick to be in No. Chicago. Lots of Great Lakes memories, I think our first paychecks were $28.50 for two weeks; later on, $55.00/mo combat pay didn't seem half bad.

How many weeks does basic last these days? Once he gets his time in, he'll do fine and learn a little street savvy along the way. :)

I never made it to the fleet and wore fatigues most of my enlistment, so much for seeing the world. :)

Bob :cowboy:

BillR
01-25-2008, 08:45
Well, good luck, this is not the time of year I would pick to be in No. Chicago. Lots of Great Lakes memories, I think our first paychecks were $28.50 for two weeks; later on, $55.00/mo combat pay didn't seem half bad.

How many weeks does basic last these days? Once he gets his time in, he'll do fine and learn a little street savvy along the way. :)

I never made it to the fleet and wore fatigues most of my enlistment, so much for seeing the world. :)

Bob :cowboy:

Basic is 8 weeks; after that he'll be in Pensecola for 5-6 weeks for his "A" school.

VAshooter
01-30-2008, 14:21
Rule #1 Always be on time.

Rule #2 Always be respectful to anyone senior.

Thats it.

Guitar Guy
01-30-2008, 20:59
As a retired Master Chief (HMCM) here are a few things to tell him.

1. You will learn more with your ears and eyes open and your mouth shut.
2. Pay attention to detail.
3. "NEVER" say sir to a "CHIEF" This would happen only once.
4. Do the best you can. Never do enough just to get buy.
5. When he gets out of "A" school get advice and learn from the guys who have been on the job for awhile. Graduating "A" school does not mean you know it all or what your doing.
6. Have HONOR and INTEGRITY be a man of your word and be the best you can. Always strive to be better.
7. Enjoy your hitch.

BillR
02-05-2008, 07:01
We just got the first "note" from him and the RTC center telling us his address and such. He wrote a note at the bottom:
''...it's not bad: not fun, but not bad.":supergrin:
Sounds like he's OK so far...:cool:

SCmasterblaster
02-05-2008, 08:48
Please pass on my well wishes and congratulations.

USN 1974-80 :supergrin:

squidville_1975
02-09-2008, 20:36
don't laugh. I went to a party with at least 2/3 of their Sub force in like 1990 and again in 92. Lots of Crown. love those guys. :drink::tequila:Hi there bubllehed, I am a BUBBLEHEAD too. :rofl:

BillR
02-10-2008, 08:10
We just got the first actual letter from him. It sounds like he's doing great. He's impressed with the food, but says some of his shipmates are causing alot of extra PT for everyone with their evening talking and such.:faint:
He aced the initial familiarization/saftey class with the M9. (That's my boy!:cool:)

BillR
03-14-2008, 08:48
It's been a long 8 weeks (for us!) but he graduates from boot camp next Friday. We're leaving for Chicago early Thursday morning.
We got a letter from him yesterday and he qualified Marksman with the M9. He said the trigger sucked compared to my Glocks that he'd shot a good bit.:supergrin:
He leaves for Pensacola (A-school) the same day he graduates, but it'll be a fun couple of hours on Friday.:cool:
EDIT: He CALLED today! They had Battle Stations and the capping ceremony last night. He's a sailor! He'll still be marching in review next Friday.

Mrhat201
03-18-2008, 11:26
Tell him to listen to anything anyone over him says, and don't mess with any one with chief in their title.

BillR
03-24-2008, 21:16
We got back home late yesterday after traveling to Great Lakes for graduation. The ceremony was awesome, but it was f-n COLD. It snowed almost a foot during graduation day on Friday, and it was snowing sideways as they were marching in.:wow:
He also got his orders slightly "modified". His A-school is now in Oceana NAS near Virginia Beach. He heads out there from Chicago in about 11 days. The good part about that is we had all day on Saturday to spend with him.:cool:
He's got a great attitude so far; I just hope and pray that it continues and he doesn't get in with the wrong crowd.:whistling:

Derrin33
03-26-2008, 20:50
Well seeing that he is an Airdale, carrier time will come. As a former flightdeck yellowshirt, the best advice is.......Mouth shut, head on swivel. The lines painted on the flight deck are there for a reason. Walking behind aircraft is ok, but there is a certain way to do it. If a man or woman in a yellow shirt tell you to do something, it's best to listen. KEEP YOUR TOOLS OFF THE DECK!!!:steamed: Show up for FOD walkdowns...PLEASE!! And remember, no flightdeck crew (V-1) cares about your wing spread.:upeyes: Anyway, the flight deck is an AMAZING place to be. Just tell him to listen, and always watch!:wow: All this was done in humor, but so very true!!!

bwphoto
03-30-2008, 01:26
Congrats BillR. I'm proud of you and your son! Keep the updates coming.

bfg1971
04-04-2008, 23:50
Please pass my congratulations on to your son. Make sure that he has signed up for the GI-bill even if he is in a state that pays for college you still get the money.

Second get signed up for Thrift Savings Plan. They may not match your contribution but it is a tax credit when you are junior enlisted and not making much yet. The credit goes away at $50,000 AGI. If you make less than 15K the credit is 50% of what you put into the savings plan. The credit does down in value as you make more.

Third if he decides he doesn't want to stay in any longer and absolutely knows he will attend college. Buy they GI-bill kicker for $600 just before getting out and get an extra $150 a month for 36 months of school. I bought mine less than a week before getting out. Made $4500 on a week long investment.

Get the Navy to pay for as much college as you can. Take CLEP and DANTES exams. The Navy pays the testing fees. I recieved a BS in nuclear engineering tech based on my navy schools, a statistics course the navy paid for, and 1 clep test.

Now I'm in grad school and the Gi-bill is paying for it.

One more thing to tell him. Thank you!!!

BillR
04-05-2008, 06:04
He arrived in Virginia Beach this week for his A school. He got his wish, as he'll be working on F-18s. He called yesterday just to tell me he was watching some of the Blue Angel pilots practicing.:cool:
His school is scheduled to end on 5/14. After that, who knows where he'll be stationed.:dunno:

Jtemple
04-05-2008, 06:12
Three rules:

1. Never be first

2. Never be last

3. Never volunteer for anything

If he follows those three rules, boot camp will be a breeze.

I actually had fun in boot camp, in a twisted sort of way. :supergrin: