View Full Version : Slug Plugs Yes Or No
I Called A gun Shop the other day to see if they had any slug plugs for the magwells and the guys says i think so places me on hold comes back and say no i don't have any sorry BTW he says When Glock Made the pistol they left that area on the pistol empty on purpose so the powder could escape when the pistol is fired he said that it would stay cleaner he suggest that i didnt get them
just wanted to know what you guys though :wavey:
he says When Glock Made the pistol they left that area on the pistol empty on purpose so the powder could escape when the pistol is fired
One of the dumbest Glock myths I've ever heard. Right along with plugging the hole will disturb the frame's "harmonics," and that the hole lets dirt out (but, somehow keeps dirt from going in).
Actually, the hole is there to equalize pressure when you shoot the gun underwater. :rofl:
I've always been under the impression it is a "cleanout chute" for debris to fall free. My experience is debris gets in as well. When I carry, I get deoderant flaking from the underarm which finds it's way into the channel and all over the backstrap. I can remedy that with an undershirt or I can plug it. I choose not to plug it.
I have plugs in all of mine. Nothing bad has come of it yet. I do notice that the 26 plug tends to fall out during rapid firing of 33rd magazines, but thats about it.
The chute allows an Austrian soldier to reach in and extract the magazine when the pistol is empty. The Austrian Army only issues one magazine with the G17, and it's not the "Drop Free" variety popular in the U.S.
Another gun shop "guru" huh. There are more workers at a gunshop that they think that they know everything, than at any other place of buisness.
My 19 and 20 both have plugs. Both are almost exclusively used in the woods under some pretty harsh conditions and I wanted the area to remain dirt,sticks,grass,limbs,and pine cone, free.
Also,to me,they just seem to "finish off" the weapon. And for 6 bucks,.............well ?
Would lastly like to say,find one person that can attribute a Glock malfunction to a "butt plug".
cyrsequipment
12-30-2007, 07:39
All mine are plugged, have NEVER had a malfunction with a Glock that wasn't my fault or a problem with ammo.
The plugs look better and do keep stuff from geting into the frame.
PAGLOCK23
12-30-2007, 07:55
I have plugs in all of mine also. I like the Lone Wolf brand better it fits flush on the bottom and the slug plug seems to stick out a slight bit.
adaman04
12-30-2007, 07:58
I couldn't stand the thought of my G19 w/o a plug when I first got it. Now I have my G30 and forgot to order a plug with it. Doesn't really bother me either way but I sure like the looks of the plug better.
The hole in the backstrap serves two purposes:
-It allows water to drain if the gun is submerged.
-It gives you a place to wedge a finger when ripping out a magazine.
Just because you have a "drop free" magazine doesn't mean that it will drop free, especially if it, the gun, or both have been out in the elements. There is NO good reason to plug the hole.
BamaTrooper
12-30-2007, 08:58
I have plugs in all of mine also. I like the Lone Wolf brand better it fits flush on the bottom and the slug plug seems to stick out a slight bit.
Not wanting a full mag funnel, I installed one that sticks out and is angled in towards the mag well. If I happen to miss a little on the mag change, it hleps.
cyrsequipment
12-30-2007, 09:05
The hole in the backstrap serves two purposes:
-It allows water to drain if the gun is submerged.
-It gives you a place to wedge a finger when ripping out a magazine.
Just because you have a "drop free" magazine doesn't mean that it will drop free, especially if it, the gun, or both have been out in the elements. There is NO good reason to plug the hole.
Water will still drain around the plug (the freaking thing isn't welded in for God's sake), and if the gun is submerged while it is in the holster, it will drain even faster because of the angle... on top of that, Glocks will fire underwater:supergrin:
Also when removing a stuck magazine there are many ways to do it, such as using the cut-out on the front of the magwell or gripping from the sides:supergrin:
Dirt and debris will screw up your gun faster than a little extra water. :tongueout:
There is NO good reason to plug the hole.
There is NO good reason NOT to plug the hole.
It boils down to individual tastes. Do whichever makes you feel good.
:cool:
hikerpaddler
12-30-2007, 09:16
Not suprisingly, he's an idiot. Slug plugs are a waste of money, but the void in question does not serve to release anything, much less powder.
I Called A gun Shop the other day to see if they had any slug plugs for the magwells and the guys says i think so places me on hold comes back and say no i don't have any sorry BTW he says When Glock Made the pistol they left that area on the pistol empty on purpose so the powder could escape when the pistol is fired he said that it would stay cleaner he suggest that i didnt get them
just wanted to know what you guys though :wavey:
danielsand
12-30-2007, 09:31
There is only one reason the backstrap channel was left opened by Glock Inc........it's CHEAPER that way! No other reason.
I prefer to have it closed. I don't need the lanyard hole for any other purpose, except to hold the plug in the grip. Plugged grip makes it easier for me to clean the weapon. Everyone should do as they prefer it. There is no "mystery" behind it.
jack the toad.
12-30-2007, 09:42
Not wanting a full mag funnel, I installed one that sticks out and is angled in towards the mag well. If I happen to miss a little on the mag change, it hleps.
+1 It does seems to help. Otherwise I see no reason to plug it.
Let's see... he doesn't have one, but it is detrimental to have one installed... but he didn't mention that you shouldn't plug it until AFTER he discovered he was out of stock.... hmmm... fails the sniff test to me.
I plugged my G23, not my G19. The G23 looks prettier. And it is less likely to get dirt in the little hole (though that isn't really a problem either, that I've noticed).
Go with what feels right. If it were detrimental, Lone Wolf wouldn't sell it.
Arc Angel
12-30-2007, 10:15
:) And the winner is .... Bingo!
There is only one reason the backstrap channel was left opened by Glock Inc........it's CHEAPER that way! No other reason.
Between keeping dirt in or keeping dirt out, my vote goes to out! ;)
Austrian soldiers sound strange! Why would anyone want to jam a finger in the frame hole, again? It's used for ripping a what out of what?
Shooting a Glock underwater? Necessary to equalize pressure? Yeah, you'll only do that exactly once; and, it won't be the pressure in the pistol that'll end up bothering you - Say what? :shocked:
(I haven't seen an underwater gunfight since the last time Lloyd Bridges shot it out during a soggy episode of, 'Sea Hunt'.)
Some of you guys were up, drinking, late last night - huh! :supergrin:
PS: It was the OP's lucky day. Slug plugs are ugly. If you miss with a magazine change, then, you miss. Turn the pistol slightly sideways and try again. A plug ain't going to help. Besides, the Jentra looks much better.
Richard_A
12-30-2007, 10:16
here you go http://glockparts.com (http://glockparts.com/?mainURL=/store/category/6gkk/Plugs.html) $6.00 plus $3.00 shipping , fits nice and flush http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/grinpimp.gif
Duck of Death
12-30-2007, 13:32
It's kinda hard to install a mag well without plugging the bu-- (oops) GRIP hole. This hasn't effected the reliability of any of my Glocks. ;)
mailman994
12-30-2007, 15:15
Worried about it? Then use some spray foam to fill it in.:mememe::laughing:
Arc Angel
12-30-2007, 17:46
:upeyes: I've got 3 words for everybody who enjoys repeatedly arguing about this subject. Are you ready?
GLOCK KEY LOCK!
Which was NEVER an aftermarket part; instead, it came directly from the factory. (Nuff said?) ;)
Shooting a Glock underwater? Necessary to equalize pressure? Yeah, you'll only do that exactly once; and, it won't be the pressure in the pistol that'll end up bothering you - Say what?
Please note that my comment about equalizing underwater pressure was purely facetious. I'm sure I've heard that on this board and was just repeating it as a flippant way of emphasizing some of the silly myths about the backstrap channel.
K
The hole in the backstrap serves two purposes:
-It allows water to drain if the gun is submerged.
-It gives you a place to wedge a finger when ripping out a magazine.
Just because you have a "drop free" magazine doesn't mean that it will drop free, especially if it, the gun, or both have been out in the elements. There is NO good reason to plug the hole.
Glocks dont have flush mount mags so you dont have to wedge your finger anywhere to rip out anything.Just grab the damn base and pull it out.
Actually, the plug should be installed. The cavity can then be filled with water and used to cool the frame during those extended shooting sessions. Ya know, those darn frames are made of plastic.:faint:
Arc Angel
12-31-2007, 23:00
Actually, the plug should be installed. The cavity can then be filled with water and used to cool the frame during those extended shooting sessions. Ya know, those darn frames are made of plastic.
:thumbsup: True!
(But strawberry Jello works better.) ;)
I installed the plug with the lanyard loop found in the Dillon catalog. Looks good!
Then there are us poor souls that own a 21SF. I have yet to see a plug for it. Just finally found a holster that fits decent.
coker737
01-01-2008, 16:44
I use it plugged so that I can store M&M's
Not really. Plugged, my G19 feels better on the palm of my hand after a long day at the range.
We can do to the Glock like the old west cowboys did. They rolled up a currency bill, what ever they could afford, and stuffed it in the chamber under the hammer of the Colt single action. We could store a $20 bill in the glock cavity and plug it up!
Not wanting a full mag funnel, I installed one that sticks out and is angled in towards the mag well. If I happen to miss a little on the mag change, it hleps.
+1 During qualification shoots it actually did help me once... I was a little too far back with the mag. and the extended plug did help me guide it in (as I kept my eyes on target like everyone should...)
SCmasterblaster
01-04-2008, 20:00
I use the frame void to hold a reduced-size copy of my CCW. I have a white plastic tie-wrap clipped through the lanyard hole, and the CCW laminated paper is wrapped around a 1.5-inch length of the tie wrap, up into the void.
In this way, I always have the CCW on me, as well as the G17.
DLebowski
01-04-2008, 22:24
I've found that the plug helps guide the mag in on reloads, kind of like a mag-well. Also, gives it a "more finished" look. What can it hurt?
desertfox
01-17-2008, 15:52
Having some experiance in injection molding.....if you try and to to thick of an area of plastic (injection molding) you end up with excess shrinkage and deformation. that would happen on the glock if that area were solid plastic...it would just be to much material. the opening is there do to the injection molding process.
I have a plug in everyone of my glocks. I prefer a flush fitting plug myself.
Guapo2006
02-20-2008, 08:06
Found a plug for the 21SF thru Glockmeister.
Jentra plugs fit well and look good.
Pearce grip extensions offer the same cosmetic compatibility.
Bestdefense.com
Batesmotel
02-29-2008, 15:16
The hole is so you can attach it to an airplane on a treadmill.:tongueout:
The Pontificator
02-29-2008, 16:11
To the OP:
What's the name and location of the gun shop in question? So that we can avoid it like the plague. :outtahere:
I use the frame void to hold a reduced-size copy of my CCW. I have a white plastic tie-wrap clipped through the lanyard hole, and the CCW laminated paper is wrapped around a 1.5-inch length of the tie wrap, up into the void.
In this way, I always have the CCW on me, as well as the G17.
Hey thats a good Idea.That way when the local LEO ask for your paper work you reach for your gun..:dunno:
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