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one"Lucky"shot
01-05-2008, 17:57
I just got the drop in trigger (finaly after just over a week!! arrggg holidays, will note they shipped with in a few days, but due to new years and what not it took a bit longer than normal )
What should I expect with this trigger? What is a 'recomended' affect to set the trigger stop adjusment screw to have? can it be 'too far in' (of course too far out brings it back to stock) for reliability?
When I ordered there was an adobe install instructions and how to fine tune it.... well the web paged changed and I don't see that info any more. It is alot shorter and lighter.
Also, can the trigger safety be removed? the one on the trigger I got has been cut so short on the backside (not the part you press, but the part that hits the frame) that it is no longer affective. IE I can pull the trigger without touching the safety. I don't know if this was intentional affect they had, but if it was I would think just removing the safety would be much easier.
Can't wait to go test it out at the range!
I hope this thread helps you.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797839
glockrocker
01-05-2008, 19:44
I just got the drop in trigger (finaly after just over a week!! arrggg holidays, will note they shipped with in a few days, but due to new years and what not it took a bit longer than normal )
What should I expect with this trigger? What is a 'recomended' affect to set the trigger stop adjusment screw to have? can it be 'too far in' (of course too far out brings it back to stock) for reliability?
When I ordered there was an adobe install instructions and how to fine tune it.... well the web paged changed and I don't see that info any more. It is alot shorter and lighter.
Also, can the trigger safety be removed? the one on the trigger I got has been cut so short on the backside (not the part you press, but the part that hits the frame) that it is no longer affective. IE I can pull the trigger without touching the safety. I don't know if this was intentional affect they had, but if it was I would think just removing the safety would be much easier.
Can't wait to go test it out at the range!
Ok, I'm confused. Not by your explanation of the condition of your trigger, but by the fact that the trigger safety is trimmed at all. You are saying that you just received a Glockworx trigger with a trimmed safety, but just last week on another thread in this forum Glockworx stated that they do not trim the trigger safeties on their newest triggers. Did you buy this directly from Glockworx or second hand? Below is a link to the thread I am talking about here on Glock Talk. The relevant discussion begins around post number 11 and ends at post number 16 where Glockworx responds to my question regarding trimmed trigger safeties. There is obviously some mis-communication here somewhere, I just can't figure out where it is.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797839
My Glockworx trigger is apparently one of their first models and has a trimmed safety as well. I can not (legally) use it in production division (USPSA) or SSP (IDPA) for this reason. I am intrigued by your recent purchase and am anxious to know where the communication breakdown occurred here.
proraptor
01-05-2008, 20:32
Ok, I'm confused. Not by your explanation of the condition of your trigger, but by the fact that the trigger safety is trimmed at all. You are saying that you just received a Glockworx trigger with a trimmed safety, but just last week on another thread in this forum Glockworx stated that they do not trim the trigger safeties on their newest triggers. Did you buy this directly from Glockworx or second hand? Below is a link to the thread I am talking about here on Glock Talk. The relevant discussion begins around post number 11 and ends at post number 16 where Glockworx responds to my question regarding trimmed trigger safeties. There is obviously some mis-communication here somewhere, I just can't figure out where it is.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797839
My Glockworx trigger is apparently one of their first models and has a trimmed safety as well. I can not (legally) use it in production division (USPSA) or SSP (IDPA) for this reason. I am intrigued by your recent purchase and am anxious to know where the communication breakdown occurred here.
I purchased a new glockworx trigger and the trigger safety isnt trimmed and works awesome
one"Lucky"shot
01-05-2008, 20:43
I don't know what I may have started here, but I do know that my order was delayed a few days "Becouse we have to wait for the part to come in, thought we had some in stock....."
I am no Butch when it comes to pictures, but here is one with my crapola camera. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/carry974/worxvstock.jpg
glockrocker
01-05-2008, 20:55
I don't know what I may have started here, but I do know that my order was delayed a few days "Becouse we have to wait for the part to come in, thought we had some in stock....."
I am no Butch when it comes to pictures, but here is one with my crapola camera. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/carry974/worxvstock.jpg
Just to clarify.....Is the trigger on the left (with a trimmed trigger safety) a Glockworx trigger and did you just receive it from them recently? Just want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding your post.
one"Lucky"shot
01-06-2008, 07:39
You are correct. I didn't identify the triggers just to show how clear the differnce is. I got the trigger direct from Glockworx.com. I got the drop in trigger set for 129 (The one with out the striker)
Order placed on Dec 26
'Sales Receipt' dated Dec 26
CC Receipt trans date Dec28
Recieved Jan 5
glockrocker
01-06-2008, 09:59
Well, that's interesting. Thank you for the info and the pics.
I overlooked the bigger issue though. You stated in your original post:
Also, can the trigger safety be removed? the one on the trigger I got has been cut so short on the backside (not the part you press, but the part that hits the frame) that it is no longer affective. IE I can pull the trigger without touching the safety. I don't know if this was intentional affect they had, but if it was I would think just removing the safety would be much easier.
Can't wait to go test it out at the range!
What do you plan to do with it? It would not be legal to use in any competition that I am aware of and a Glock without a functional trigger safety makes it all but useless (from a safety standpoint) as a concealed carry piece for anyone. The thought of holstering a Glock without a functioning trigger safety just gives me the "willies". Hope I'm not being too nosy, but I'm positive that this trigger was not intentionally built like this. It is probably just the way that this particular trigger interacts with your particular frame.
The "Does Glockworx trim their trigger safeties or not?" issue aside, you certainly must evaluate your current predicament and make certain you don't put yourself or someone else in harms way due to a modification that YOU installed on a firearm. Can you imagine the liability (on your part) if there were an AD with this gun and something bad happened as a result? The only reason I say this is your comment about wanting to get to the range and test it. I would not use the trigger at all in its current configuration. I would get with Glockworx and have them give you your options on proper adjustment, or trigger replacement etc....before you use it. Good luck!
one"Lucky"shot
01-06-2008, 14:51
From what I can tell it is still ok to use in a L-10 or open. But need to look more into it to be sure. Pending the outcome of that, I will get with Glockworx OR use it in USPSA matches.
glockrocker
01-06-2008, 15:48
From what I can tell it is still ok to use in a L-10 or open. But need to look more into it to be sure. Pending the outcome of that, I will get with Glockworx OR use it in USPSA matches.
A trimmed yet functional safety would be legal in those divisions, but I don't think a non-functioning safety would be. I thought you said it did not work at all. Apologies if I misunderstood.
one"Lucky"shot
01-06-2008, 16:22
No, you understood correctly. I can grab the side of the trigger and fire. I will have to look into it more... I would hate to have to wait another week :(
glockrocker
01-06-2008, 17:14
No, you understood correctly. I can grab the side of the trigger and fire. I will have to look into it more... I would hate to have to wait another week :(
You may be correct about open and limited divisions. I looked it up and the rule that says you may not disable any external safety or externally operated safety is only stated in Production Division.
Rule 5.1.6 may apply depending on the RO or RM on duty:
"Handguns must be serviceable and safe. Range Officers may demand
examination of a competitor’s handgun or related equipment, at any time,
to check they are functioning safely. If any such item is declared unserviceable
or unsafe by a Range Officer, it must be withdrawn from the
match until the item is repaired to the satisfaction of the Range Master."
I know RO's in my area would not allow this IF they were aware of it, which would be impossible just by visual inspection. I would certainly not be comfortable shooting with someone using a Glock in this condition. Just trusting someone to holster it properly could be unnerving. Not to mention if the thing was dropped and skidding across the gravel while spinning in a circle.....you get the picture.
one"Lucky"shot
01-06-2008, 21:02
very true. I have a few weeks before the next shoot to sort it out.
I wonder why glockworx member has not said anything???
I got Tactical trigger kit a couple of weeks ago.
The safety does work on mine. It looks the one you recieved.
I'm very happy with the product, FWIW, without the skeletonized striker my pull came in at 3.5lbs, with the pretrave and creep reduced by about 50%.
glockrocker
01-08-2008, 06:37
I got Tactical trigger kit a couple of weeks ago.
The safety does work on mine. It looks the one you recieved.
I'm very happy with the product, FWIW, without the skeletonized striker my pull came in at 3.5lbs, with the pretrave and creep reduced by about 50%.
Your trigger safety is "trimmed" or "has material removed"?
one"Lucky"shot
01-08-2008, 11:05
if yours is cut like mine, maybe it is a slight difference in my frame?
back to my original question.... are there any reliability issues with over tightened adjustment screw on the trigger assembly ?
nnickatnight
01-08-2008, 12:16
Any chance that you could take a stock trigger and mirror polish it using a dremel and achieve the same result?
one"Lucky"shot
01-08-2008, 12:46
The parts that need to be polished are polished (.25 trigger job) I will swap out the trigger bar and see how well that works out. I would still gain the springs and adjustable trigger housing... kind of a big let down if I spen 129 bucks on a few springs and an adjustable trigger stop.:crying:
nnickatnight
01-08-2008, 13:04
I gotta be honest I've used the adjustable trigger stop and have since quit using it and put in a rocket connector instead. The screw in the housing always seem to eventually loosen up and the rocket connector with the extra tab won't budge once it's installed correctly. Just my 2 cents.
I have been reading the stories posted here and other forums about the Glockworx company.
They sound like a very concerned and customer oriented company to me. I know in recent post that one of the high ranking people in their organization stated that they would work with any dissatisfied customer to resolve all issues.
They also state that all safeties will function after the installation of their kit.
Any modification to the exterior of the pistol will eliminate it as being production legal.
Give them a call.
one"Lucky"shot
01-08-2008, 17:47
it is not that I'm not satisfied with the trigger. I was under the impression that all safeties would still work though.
the main reason for my post was to get feed back from other shooters that have implemented this trigger set. and if there is a down side to screwing the adjustment all the way in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
Just a question to clarify this topic. Have you re-designed your triggers recently? I have one of your triggers that I don't use in production due to a trimmed safety. I got it second hand, but was told that the trigger was in the original condition. I can't speak for Mr. Vanek, but he isn't the only one who thinks your triggers aren't an option for production/ssp because of trimmed safeties. I read a thread on brianenos.com in which several people discuss their trimmed safeties on Glockworx triggers. Please clarify if your triggers have been re-designed as there is some confusion here. Also I saw a reference in the FAQ's on your website regarding your upgrade policy, but could not find the link to the policy itself. If you have re-designed your triggers can I utilize your upgrade policy to replace mine, or would that not apply to me since I am the second owner of my trigger?
Thanks.
Here is a link to the thread on brainenos.com. The discussion about trimmed safeties on Glockworx triggers begins around post number 30.
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...lockworx&st=25
Long story short...the first trigger kits we made had trimmed but functioning safeties and the newer ones do not have trimmed safeties
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Lucky shot,
Sorry I don't know how to use the quote function properly but here is dialod from the discussion I was referring to.
Your trigger safety is "trimmed" or "has material removed"?
Can't say, I dont have enough experience to know if it was modified or if it looks that way normally and a different geometry changes it's appearance.
nnickatnight
01-08-2008, 20:06
I'm new to this forum and am primarily focused on Class 3 stuff for my own personal use. I do however carry a Glock for duty and off duty and have started a small side business on my own after the department sent me to Glock school. After looking at the trigger with trigger bar I "think" that a factory unit can be mirror polished by tools, by hand, or both and achieve the same result without modifications that create other problems. I've got a bunch I can try to experiment on and I'll post with my success or failure regardless. If it comes out well however, I would think quite a bit of money could be saved by doing it yourself or by purchasing it from someone who was willing to put in the elbow grease! Also, I have had nothing but bad luck with the trigger housings with the built in set screw for overtravel and would take a look at a ghost rocket instead. It solves the same problem but eliminates the inherent loosening of the set screw. Just my 2 cents, someone else may have had great luck with them!
I gotta be honest I've used the adjustable trigger stop and have since quit using it and put in a rocket connector instead. The screw in the housing always seem to eventually loosen up and the rocket connector with the extra tab won't budge once it's installed correctly. Just my 2 cents.
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G21forME
01-09-2008, 16:30
I would contact them, I have a competition set with the skeletonized striker and not only is the trigger amazing all of the safeties are working. Glockworx claims that on earlier models material was removed but the newer versions have no such modifications.
G21forME
01-09-2008, 16:33
Also, I have had nothing but bad luck with the trigger housings with the built in set screw for overtravel and would take a look at a ghost rocket instead. It solves the same problem but eliminates the inherent loosening of the set screw. Just my 2 cents, someone else may have had great luck with them!
I'm going to see how the screw holds up on my 34, I tried a ghost rocket and had far to many ftf's so i junked it in favor of a LW 3.5 and now I'm running the glock worx dropin with their 3.5 and it is by far the best trigger (if the **** screw stays in of course).
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