Yes on 1?

[Znyper]

What are your thoughts on this? http://www.yeson1florida.com/

Looks good on paper, but admittedly I don't know much about it...

[Gmountain]

What are your thoughts on this? http://www.yeson1florida.com/

Looks good on paper, but admittedly I don't know much about it...


I'm not voting for it. I'm not screwing around with property taxes unless local government spending is capped. The local governments need to get costs and spending under control, otherwise assesments will go up and taxes will still rise.

If and when governments are limited as to what they can spend, then I'll consider tax changes.

[mitchshrader]

ain't but one change we need. fire the sob's that steal from us.

[Evenflo76]

This "TAX Crisis" amuses me. Everyone assumes taxes went up, they did not. Property Values did. Also, when you buy a home in FL, the first years tax escrow is based on the previous owners taxes. It is only after your first year of ownership that you as a new homeowner are taxed on about 1 1/2% of your purchase price. Then it takes 3 years for the Save our Homes exemption to kick in and lock your tax rate from increase. Also, our market shot up in value during that 3 year period more than anyone expected.

A good loan officer/mortgage broker will warn you of this and tell you to put away extra money for when the increase comes. It is this situation, combined with the Insurance increases from two very active years of Tropical Storms, that has put the squeeze on property owners. Some people have had to pay more on Insurance and taxes than they did for their note.

Some people did not even know about the exemptions or bother to apply for them. IMO, the system does not need to be fixed. I believe it will result in higher taxes overall. When government gets involved in fixing something, it usually ends up more broken!!!! People will probably end up voting for the measure that gives more immediate relief. How will this affect us long term?


My $0.02

[avmech]

Unfortunately, most people have no idea what the expression "long term" means...........they want immediate satisfaction. I agree, what are the long term effects? I'm voting no on 1

[Nowhere Man]

I'm voting yes on 1. Less money in the tax man's pocket.

The long term effects of this? The State will figure another way to sap us dry.


Dave

[Gmountain]

I'm voting yes on 1. Less money in the tax man's pocket.

Dave

Not really. It doesn't limit school taxes at all, which are most of your tax bill. Those can and will go through the roof. Now they are limited. If this passes, they will be wide open.

[rvrctyrngr]

I'm voting yes on 1. Less money in the tax man's pocket.

The long term effects of this? The State will figure another way to sap us dry.


Dave

It's not just the state, pay attention to your LOCAL gov't. Our county has depended upon property taxes for way too long. They stand to lose a ton of revenue. All city services cut ($2-6M from the Sheriff's budget). Funny....if all the new 'fees' and 'assessments' the city wants get passed by the city council, I'll actually be taking a bigger hit than if my property taxes just increased at the normal rate. Being paying less to the state, but way more to the city.

Hey Gmountain, can I secede from the county and start my own??? :whistling:

Never mind. Didn't work out too well for the Confederacy, or Key West. :cool:

[avmech]

Just look at the huge amounts we have saved on property insurance...............................................
Tallahassee came up with this amendment way too rapidly, tells me there is not much thought behind it.

[tc2129]

I'm voting no. In Santa Rosa County, Greg Brown, the property appraiser, has said if the Homestead exemption passes Santa Rosa County will just increase the milage rate.
Plus this will kill Public Safety entities that rely on ad-valorum taxes. Christ says it is scare tactics by Fire and Police, but it isn't. He states public safety was here before a tax break and will be after, but I know of one Department that will lay off 18 Firefighters, close a station, and lose its advanced life support services.
My savings, if this passes, is only 180 dollars a year. Help me with insurance Charlie.

[preludejoe182]

VOTE NO ON 1. and here is your reason why

No. 1 is the property tax thing that the state has been promising to homeowners, but at a costly price. the average homeowner is going to save about $100-$200 a year on property tax, woopdie do. but at the expense of city officials? yes thats right. to give the homeowners this chump change will cost the homeowners protection, city services, and medical.

meaning, to fund this No.1 they will take money from city services INCLUDING YOUR LOCAL POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS. causing hiring freezes, layoffs, low man power, and weak budgets to fund any equipment. so if you want your police and fire departments to keep serving as they do like my own police department, VOTE NO ON 1

[Notrega]

I'm not voting for it. I'm not screwing around with property taxes unless local government spending is capped. The local governments need to get costs and spending under control, otherwise assesments will go up and taxes will still rise.

If and when governments are limited as to what they can spend, then I'll consider tax changes.

+1

Also stop F'ing with the Constitution...

if you want change that is what the F'ers you elected are paid for... if they don't legislate like you want don't F'ing vote for them...

[Notrega]

Hey Gmountain, can I secede from the county and start my own??? :whistling:

Never mind. Didn't work out too well for the Confederacy, or Key West. :cool:
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When do you want to move... I am game... who else?

[oldstyle]

I'm voting NO. If it passes, local gov will create new fees for garbage collection, schools, emergency services, road maintenance, etc.... So we'll actually have five or six "taxes" which would each be subjected to annual increases. I think we'll pay MORE in the long run if this passes.

[mitchshrader]

roll back government. it steals from you.

[njl]

I've been a home owner for about 12 years and I have to say, this is the first I've heard of the "Save our homes" crap. I guess I should have been taking advantage of it.

Being able to move and take that tax break with you seems totally wrong to me. I mean say you have a nice SOH tax break in your current home and move intrastate. Some other guy moves in from out of state. Why should you get a break on your property taxes and he pays the full amount?

[Gmountain]

I've been a home owner for about 12 years and I have to say, this is the first I've heard of the "Save our homes" crap. I guess I should have been taking advantage of it.


You have been.

[Dandapani]

Yes on 1.

[njl]

You have been.

I thought I'd read somewhere else that you had to actually apply for it.

[Evenflo76]

I thought I'd read somewhere else that you had to actually apply for it.U do. You can apply during your first year of ownership. Though you have to own the home for 3 full years before the cap applies.

As I stated in my post above. There is nothing different with Floridas tax system that was no there 5 or 10 years ago. This measure is to appease people who did not read the fine print! :steamed:

[J T]

I'm voting yes on 1. The few bucks it'll save me are irrelevant. It's the statement I'll be making that's important.

[avmech]

Read the fine print regarding the part where the homestead exemption could be removed at a later date..........................................

Already voted NO

[Da-Squad]

Voted no.

[Duncan223]

There are thousands and thousands of mobile homes in Florida valued under $25k that pay zero property taxes, if that exemption is increased to $50k, thousands more will be added to the tax-free status. This is not fair to the people who own non-mobile home housing.

How do we find a way to increase revenue without the need to increase the mill rate to cover the budgets and keep vital services intact? Perhaps a sliding scale based on the percentage of the home value would work. Lets say the second 30% of the home is the homestead value that is not taxed. This would give mobile home owners the same percentage value that non-mobile home owners receive and still provides a tax base to the community, while at the same time giving a tax break to all homeowners.

This is a work in progress and I haven't compiled all the information to publish this plan, so feel free to add to it, critique it, whatever.

[sidewinder6]

I am for it and also capping the spending that has gone on during the boom years. This business about public safety is self serving nonsense.

[c-mama]

From what I understand, reading about this on http://www.votesmartflorida.org/mx/hm.asp?id=electionday_voterguide, the school taxes will be not be limited for non- homstead real property. In the .pdf I downloaded, it said for who does this affect: Homestead property
owners, anyone who had a homestead in 2007 would be eligible.
This provision applies to all taxes, including school taxes. Not really. It doesn't limit school taxes at all, which are most of your tax bill. Those can and will go through the roof. Now they are limited. If this passes, they will be wide open.

[ArmaGlock]

HELL NO!!!! and I also won't be voting for Crist's dumb-ass when he comes up for re-election!!!! What a clown!

[Dalton Wayne]

my entire family voted yes, hope it passes...

[StogieStang]

What I like about #1 is that we can take our save our homes with us if we decide to move into a different or larger home. Our taxes shouldn't double just because we move into a similarly valued home 60 miles away. Even if our taxes stay the same they should be portable.

Voted YES on 1

[rvrctyrngr]

It's gonna pass....64% YES at last viewing.

[Dalton Wayne]

It's to close to call it needs 60% to pass

[dachaddwick]

voted.....and the decision was NO!

[ArmaGlock]

Well it passed, uninformed voting wins again. Everybody that voted yes for this just sit back and watch what happens, cause you aren't going to save a penny! The counties are going to find a way to get the money they are losing because of this cut, they don't have a choice. They can't afford it. What a joke :upeyes:

And in the meantime, watch how badly it effects your public safety!!!

[Gmountain]

Well it passed, uninformed voting wins again. Everybody that voted yes for this just sit back and watch what happens, cause you aren't going to save a penny! The counties are going to find a way to get the money they are losing because of this cut, they don't have a choice. They can't afford it. What a joke :upeyes:

And in the meantime, watch how badly it effects your public safety!!!

I think we will now see taxes go up, and counties will increase sales tax to make up for the shortfall. As sales taxes go up, people will shop even more on the internet. Businesses will close, and tax revenue will fall even more. This was a very short sighted vote that will bring a lot of problems.

[Dalton Wayne]

It will help the guys like me the little guys who are retired and own our homesteaded homes free and clear I paid 63.000 cash for my home 13 years ago my taxes were 1.000 a year with homestead hope that gets cut in half. :tongueout:

[Gmountain]

It will help the guys like me the little guys who are retired and own our homesteaded homes free and clear I paid 63.000 cash for my home 13 years ago my taxes were !.000 a year with homestead hope that gets cut in half. :tongueout:
I think you ight see a one year drop, and then counties will find the funding mechanisms to make up for the shortfalls, and in two years you will be back to what you have now, and in three years it will be higher.

[ArmaGlock]

This amendment is a scam, it was designed to help the high income folks save money on their big houses.

check this out, look at the counties that had a majority vote yes and ask yourself what areas are really going to benefit?

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/2008PPP/20080129_NOP_DET_A01.html

[rvrctyrngr]

I think we will now see taxes go up, and counties will increase sales tax to make up for the shortfall. As sales taxes go up, people will shop even more on the internet. Businesses will close, and tax revenue will fall even more. This was a very short sighted vote that will bring a lot of problems.

Absolutely. I'm not going to save the predicted $240 on my property taxes (they're less than 1K now). However, my county will find ways to 'fee' us to death to the tune of more that $350/per person (predicted).

[sidewinder6]

Well it passed, uninformed voting wins again. Everybody that voted yes for this just sit back and watch what happens, cause you aren't going to save a penny! The counties are going to find a way to get the money they are losing because of this cut, they don't have a choice. They can't afford it. What a joke :upeyes:

And in the meantime, watch how badly it effects your public safety!!!

Regardless of what happens with 'public safety', the end result will be the same.