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DavidD
01-10-2008, 22:50
Okay did I miss something? I was on gunbroker looking at Glock mags and noticed a seller Advertising "2 factory NEW Glock 19 - 15rd mags - banned soon!
Is this just a presumption?

hokieglock
01-10-2008, 22:52
just some idiot price gouger preying on the mis-informed.

mitchshrader
01-10-2008, 22:53
pandering to the collective hysteria of the misinformed.. trying to beat the rush..

oneofthose
01-10-2008, 22:55
Could the seller be in a state with a ban pending? Doesn't California still limit mag capacity? Just a guess. hokieglock could be right too.

ax157
01-10-2008, 22:56
Obligatory "no everything will be banned by 09" or simply "no next time they wont be grandfathered" comment in 3... 2... :upeyes:

DavidD
01-10-2008, 22:57
Hopefully he's not Psychic.:crying:

Riff196
01-10-2008, 23:00
He is just trying to play off of the, "what might happen". around here you can still walk into any gun shop and buy hi-cap mags off the shelf.

Elliott
01-10-2008, 23:04
I will try not to turn this into a political debate, however if certain people get into office there could arise a perceived threat to gun owners. If this happens, it won't matter if a hi-cap ban is real or imagined. Demand and prices good go up dramatically.

Jason607
01-10-2008, 23:08
I hate this crap. Last gun show I went to, some dealers were trying to push this. First of all, there is no gaurntee there will be a Democrat in office next year, and even if there is, they have to get it through the house. Yes, the dems have a lead there, but the lead is not that great, and there are many pro-gun democrats.... or at least one's that don't want to be associated with this.

Look at the issues, the gun-grabbers are the one's on the defence. The NRA and other groupes are going to court over these gun bans, like the DC gun ban.

TheGrimReaper
01-10-2008, 23:11
I hate the idea too, but it is still in the back of my head!

OKgetdown
01-10-2008, 23:27
More than likely nothing will happen. The Dems have bigger problems to worry about if they get the office.

Elliott
01-10-2008, 23:50
I hate this crap. Last gun show I went to, some dealers were trying to push this. First of all, there is no gaurntee there will be a Democrat in office next year, and even if there is, they have to get it through the house. Yes, the dems have a lead there, but the lead is not that great, and there are many pro-gun democrats.... or at least one's that don't want to be associated with this.

Look at the issues, the gun-grabbers are the one's on the defence. The NRA and other groupes are going to court over these gun bans, like the DC gun ban.

I feel your pain man! You are right, in that it would take a while for the Dems to get something passed (if they could). The problem as I see it, there is a perceived threat. It does not matter whether it is real or not. Public perception drives the market. If enough people think a ban is imminent, demand will rise. When demand rises, so do prices. I strongly dislike people preying on other peoples fears with hype and innuendo! I guess we just have to wait and see how this plays out.
I also agree that the Dems and Antis are on the defense, but public perception is not always logical. This public perception (if fueled) could screw up the works.

TCKDRVR20
01-14-2008, 02:43
More than likely nothing will happen. The Dems have bigger problems to worry about if they get the office.

Not one in particular... I don't think I have to name names...:whistling:

smokeater639
01-15-2008, 14:47
I hate this crap. Last gun show I went to, some dealers were trying to push this. First of all, there is no gaurntee there will be a Democrat in office next year, and even if there is, they have to get it through the house. Yes, the dems have a lead there, but the lead is not that great, and there are many pro-gun democrats.... or at least one's that don't want to be associated with this.

Look at the issues, the gun-grabbers are the one's on the defence. The NRA and other groupes are going to court over these gun bans, like the DC gun ban.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when the first Clinton got the ban through it was with an executive order. He didn't need to go through Congress. That is why the law expired in 10 years. If he would have went through Congress to pass the bill it would have taken another trip through Congress to get it changed. The ban just expired.

vafish
01-15-2008, 15:00
I hate the idea too, but it is still in the back of my head!

+1

I'm buying all the hi cap mags I can afford before then.

DannyR
01-15-2008, 16:33
I think you will find that both parties have far more important issues, like the war in Iraq, Health Care, Education, Social Security and budget deficits.:whistling:

RUT
01-15-2008, 19:15
>>I think you will find that both parties have far more important issues<<

Yeah maybe... but don't count on it.

DM-SC
01-16-2008, 09:57
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when the first Clinton got the ban through it was with an executive order. He didn't need to go through Congress. That is why the law expired in 10 years. If he would have went through Congress to pass the bill it would have taken another trip through Congress to get it changed. The ban just expired.

The banning of certain imported guns/parts and magazines were accomplished with an executive order. The actual banning of the civilian sale of certain so-called AWB's and magazines with capacities over 10 rounds were all instituted via legislation.

Mikeyboy
01-16-2008, 10:08
The way I see it regardless if and when the democrats reenact the AWB, if the democrats win the whitehouse in 08, I think you will see a significant spike in the cost of Hi cap mags and "Assault type" rifles. I'm just buying now to beat the possible increase.

familywgn
01-16-2008, 17:06
+1

I'm buying all the hi cap mags I can afford before then.

ahmen!

WIG19
01-17-2008, 10:45
The name of the Dem getting into the WH will not matter if the preparatory legislation has already been worked through and is ready to be handed to them. They will sign it and move on to the other things regarded as really important. Doesn't mean they won't sign it. And there are some Republicans around who'd sign such treasonous drivel too in the interest of 'unification'.

:puking:

Edit: Vote your gun.

vafish
01-17-2008, 11:19
I think you will find that both parties have far more important issues, like the war in Iraq, Health Care, Education, Social Security and budget deficits.:whistling:

Which means they'll be spending all their energy and time arguing about them and an AWB ban will slide through quickly.

AlPackin
01-17-2008, 13:33
Look at the issues, the gun-grabbers are the one's on the defence. The NRA and other groupes are going to court over these gun bans, like the DC gun ban.

I read somewhere just the other day that the Bush Justice Department filed a brief in support of the DC Gun Ban ! :upeyes:

Ripple
01-17-2008, 14:31
Lets face it, all the democrats and most of the republicans are anti gun, or at best neutral. Only 3 republicans I know of that are very pro gun are Thompson, Paul, and Huckabee.


So if the congress stays democrat, any new Crime Bill wont be as easy to shoot down as the ones have been lately.

Remember there are no illegal guns, only undocumented ones ;)

Ripple
01-17-2008, 14:49
I read somewhere just the other day that the Bush Justice Department filed a brief in support of the DC Gun Ban ! :upeyes:

They have filed a amici filing.
Some of the good points.

"The text also makes clear that the right is not limited to
members of a select body (like today’s National Guard)
but extends to “the people” generally."

A. THE SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTS AN INDIVIDUAL
RIGHT TO POSSESS FIREARMS, INCLUDING FOR
PURPOSES UNRELATED TO MILITIA OPERATIONS

Kind of a mixed message here. But think they are a little freaked out that the Court could over turn Miller, and then all gun laws would go away. So they toss in the flexibility part, and asking it to be remanded to the lower court.
Wonder why they don't ask for flexibility with the 1st or 14th amendments....


CONCLUSION
The Court should affirm that the Second Amendment,
no less than other provisions of the Bill of Rights,
secures an individual right, and should clarify that the
right is subject to the more flexible standard of review
described above. If the Court takes those foundational
steps, the better course would be to remand.

AlPackin
01-17-2008, 15:55
ahh ... here it is
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmIyM2ZlMDhkOTFkMTc5ZGZhMjU0ZDE4N2QzN2U2YzM=

TCKDRVR20
01-17-2008, 20:21
+1

I'm buying all the hi cap mags I can afford before then.

+2 to that. A few years ago during the Brady Bill days when I purchased my Glock 22 hicap pre-ban mags were going for $80 and over, now i've paid between $15 and $20.