Berto
01-12-2008, 19:43
Went shooting today.
Model 36 with 3" barrel, round butt. Grips are Hogue Kingwood.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9277/stuff313sb1.jpg
Ammo:
HSM (police reloads) 158gr copper plated SWC
Speer Lawman 158gr +P FMJ FP
Black Hills 148gr LWC's
The HSM felt like the typical 158gr at 750fps 'standard' police load, recoil was there but just perceptably less than the +P Speer stuff.
I know the Speer loads chrono 900fps in my 4" K frame and this 3" gun historically gets about 50fps less, so 850fps, maybe a hair more.
The Black Hills lead wadcutters were mouse fart 650fps, rumoredly identical to the 2.8-3.2 Bullseye/ 148gr load. Recoil was light even in the J frame.
I'm used to acceptable accuracy from the other 125gr and 148gr HSM reloads, but this stuff was pretty inconsistent at 25 yrds.
I'm usually a 2-4" group shooter at that range, but was all over the paper with this ammo...one round would be right on, next shot would be 5" off with me holding a consistent sight picture.
20 rounds in this case, all over the paper.:dunno:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/551/stuff317zr8.jpg
The Speer +P and Black Hills ammo was more typical, giving me a couple 5" groups, 10 shot with the +P and 15 shots in the Blk Hills WC's.
Point of aim was center of square for the WC's, top edge of paper with the +P ammo.
The first five wadcutters went into a nice 2.5" group beore the second and third cylinderfuls opened things up.
The +p ammo was limited to a couple cylinderfuls in interest of not pushing it with the old non +P rated gun. Strung that group up and down a little, my fault.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5858/stuff316fk6.jpg
As can be seen, the old narrow fixed sights are a tad left at this extended range, but plenty close enough IMO. There were no FTF's, ejection, feed, phase three or magazines issues in the 150 rounds fired today.:supergrin:
I like the look of the houge grips, but using the defense or plus P stuff pounds the base of my thumb due to the narrowish profile in their shape...I may have to switch to spegels as they feel better on my 442 and this isn't an issue, despite the heavier recoil of it's lighter weight.
Model 36 with 3" barrel, round butt. Grips are Hogue Kingwood.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9277/stuff313sb1.jpg
Ammo:
HSM (police reloads) 158gr copper plated SWC
Speer Lawman 158gr +P FMJ FP
Black Hills 148gr LWC's
The HSM felt like the typical 158gr at 750fps 'standard' police load, recoil was there but just perceptably less than the +P Speer stuff.
I know the Speer loads chrono 900fps in my 4" K frame and this 3" gun historically gets about 50fps less, so 850fps, maybe a hair more.
The Black Hills lead wadcutters were mouse fart 650fps, rumoredly identical to the 2.8-3.2 Bullseye/ 148gr load. Recoil was light even in the J frame.
I'm used to acceptable accuracy from the other 125gr and 148gr HSM reloads, but this stuff was pretty inconsistent at 25 yrds.
I'm usually a 2-4" group shooter at that range, but was all over the paper with this ammo...one round would be right on, next shot would be 5" off with me holding a consistent sight picture.
20 rounds in this case, all over the paper.:dunno:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/551/stuff317zr8.jpg
The Speer +P and Black Hills ammo was more typical, giving me a couple 5" groups, 10 shot with the +P and 15 shots in the Blk Hills WC's.
Point of aim was center of square for the WC's, top edge of paper with the +P ammo.
The first five wadcutters went into a nice 2.5" group beore the second and third cylinderfuls opened things up.
The +p ammo was limited to a couple cylinderfuls in interest of not pushing it with the old non +P rated gun. Strung that group up and down a little, my fault.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5858/stuff316fk6.jpg
As can be seen, the old narrow fixed sights are a tad left at this extended range, but plenty close enough IMO. There were no FTF's, ejection, feed, phase three or magazines issues in the 150 rounds fired today.:supergrin:
I like the look of the houge grips, but using the defense or plus P stuff pounds the base of my thumb due to the narrowish profile in their shape...I may have to switch to spegels as they feel better on my 442 and this isn't an issue, despite the heavier recoil of it's lighter weight.