Glock vs. XD? Need links/info

[pangris]

I've shot a couple XDs and am considering one. I'm curious about the Glock 19/23 vs the XD series - particularly with the new compact XD .45 that is a 10 rounder. I don't see much in the way of dimensional specs on the .45.

I can't get any hits on the search with "XD" and "SAXD".

[mickdundie]

http://www.springfield-armory.com/
I hate the SA XDs....but here ya go

Mick:thumbsup:

[danielsand]

I don't hate them, but I have some misgivings towards the weapons made "south of the border"! (which Croatia IS to Austria!)
Croatian history of making firearms dates to 1989-1990, and I had a misfortune to see some used in action,... first hand. Not impressed to say the least.
I think it's great that people are buying them (it helps Croatian politicians line up their pockets even more!), and there are also MUCH worse handguns on the market today!
I'm sorry to offend XD lovers everywhere,...do as I did, visit the factory in Croatia, ask questions,....and buy the Glock!

[bangelo]

I owned to XD's a while back. They are good guns. But I naturally went back to glock. Why? Well i actually prefer the backstap on the glock. Glock worked better with my thumbs forward grip. I have a G17 now, and I shoot it better than my XD 9 Tactical. The grip on the XD is more comfortable, but I still like Glocks grip.

The one thing that bothered me about XD is that I broke a Firing pin retaining. I bough some over the internet and I had to dremmel them down so they would fit. I never did get it to fit all the way in.

Spare/aftermarket parts are hard to come by and expensive.

The finish is just the same as glocks.

Glock is easier to field strip and detail strip.

The trigger is about the same, but I think glocks is better.

All in all, you are going to get a good gun either way. I would suggest renting both and shoot them side by side and make sure they work with your current grip and all that. Then pick the one that you shoot the best.

[bangelo]

I don't hate them, but I have some misgivings towards the weapons made "south of the border"! (which Croatia IS to Austria!)
Croatian history of making firearms dates to 1989-1990, and I had a misfortune to see some used in action,... first hand. Not impressed to say the least.
I think it's great that people are buying them (it helps Croatian politicians line up their pockets even more!), and there are also MUCH worse handguns on the market today!
I'm sorry to offend XD lovers everywhere,...do as I did, visit the factory in Croatia, ask questions,....and buy the Glock!

I think Springfield manufactures them in the US now. Croatia still gets some money but not as much as they would have if they didnt license it out to SA.

[danielsand]

That's a big NEGATIVE, my friend! ALL the parts are manufactured in Croatia. (that may be the reason why spare parts are not easy to come by?)

[irish_ironsight]

Hiya Pangris,

Any of Springfield's XD range is an excellent buy, despite a questionable history, (Sorry heres my edited bit) part's are made in Croatia BUT they are now assembled in the USA and no longer in Europe. That way they can legally say built in USA...The XD range has often been regarded as being the closest thing there is to a copy of the GLOCK pistols. They are excellent all round good guns. But I personally prefer my GLOCK, to speak honestly the best thing you can do is borrow the pistols you like and try them out for a while.

Spare& aftermarket parts can be hard to track down if you need them and may be a little more expensive.

Being completely honest I originally wanted the XD in 9mm, but couldn't get an export permit from the US State Department

Either way, by choosing GLOCK or Springfield you are going to get a top quality good pistol.

Renting or borrow the 2 together, shoot them side by side, keep your grip constant, change nothing. And then and only then make a decision for yourself.
We here can make all the recomendations you like, but at the end of the day, if you buy a pistol you dont like, we are not out of money and stuck with something we dont like.. You Are!

[.40calPower]

I hate the way they feel in my hand. I have big hands and the XDs have a really thin grip. I also think the gun is not in proportion. The slide is really bulky compared to the grip! What’s that all about? I'm not bashing on XDs but there are plenty of other guns out there (GLOCK) that a very reliable and look good at the same time.

[danielsand]

Hiya Pangris,

"]part's are made in Croatia BUT they are now assembled in the USA and no longer in Europe. That way they can legally say built in USA[/COLOR]...The XD range has often been regarded as being the closest thing there is to a copy of the GLOCK pistols.


Absolutely correct!

I just don't understand why spend money on the weapon that is HARD to service, and that is a COPY after all?

[Agent6-3/8]

The grip on the XD does feel a bit better to me than the Glock, but thats about their only advantage, IMHO. Glock seems to have a better trigger, lower bore axis and a little sleeker overall.

[vafish]

Short version.

I had Glocks, bought an XD, sold the XD, kept the Glocks.

[mickdundie]

Lets face it guys. The XDs have a lot of features that the GLOCK doesn't. Grip safety, loaded chamber indicator (that works), striker indicator. All those extras lured me to buy one. I got the SA XD .40 Service Model and had reliability issues from the get go that could not be resolved.
Traded Iton a GLOCK 23...end of story. No fancy gismos and gadgets but I have a reliable, accurate gun with parts available everywhere and all the gizmos and gadgets available that anyone could possibly want (I keep mine stock... thanks anyway)...Not to mention the styles of holsters are endless. I'm pleased with my decision and I will own other types of guns in the future (keeping my G23 of coarse) but I won't own any that are unreliable POS

Mick

[405dave]

Grip safety, loaded indicator, striker indicator, thumb safety, decocker levers, and any other useless junk is something else to break right when its need most. Simple is best in combat guns. IMHO

[Panzerfaust]

What I'm not sure I understand is why the biggest selling point I keep seeing over the more superior Glock is that it has "one more safety".

So what? It isn't even one of those that one has to flip to deactivate, so, wow...

I guess "because it feels more natural in their hand" is common, also, but for everyone who says that, I know three guys that say the same of a Glock. But I respect this more than I do "because it has another safety. Doesn't make it any safer, just that it has one more group of parts that could screw up and cause the gun to not shoot.

[buckshotshorty]

I had an XD-9 and while it was a very nice gun, it disappointed me by choking on +p ammo. Combine that with the fact that it was a little too bulky for me to carry, I traded it for a Glock-19 which I now caryy on a regular basis. No regrets!!

[jimbojoker]

I've shot a couple XDs and am considering one. I'm curious about the Glock 19/23 vs the XD series - particularly with the new compact XD .45 that is a 10 rounder. I don't see much in the way of dimensional specs on the .45.

I can't get any hits on the search with "XD" and "SAXD".

I actually liked the feel of the XD subcompact a little bit better than the Glock 26/27. The deciding factor for me was the availability of parts and accessories AND the interchangeability of parts such as magazines, extractors etc. with my other Glock pistols.

Reality is that **** happens from time to time even with quality weapons. With the Glock, you can get parts everywhere and install them yourself. With XD, good luck finding parts and get the wallet out to pay for the smith.

[DannyR]

Over 70% of the L.E. Agencies in the USA use Glock. 0% use XD's. I think you can figure out the moral to this story.:whistling:

[jimbojoker]

What I'm not sure I understand is why the biggest selling point I keep seeing over the more superior Glock is that it has "one more safety".

So what? It isn't even one of those that one has to flip to deactivate, so, wow...

I guess "because it feels more natural in their hand" is common, also, but for everyone who says that, I know three guys that say the same of a Glock. But I respect this more than I do "because it has another safety. Doesn't make it any safer, just that it has one more group of parts that could screw up and cause the gun to not shoot.

Talking to a LEO about his dept reluctance to issue Glocks. He gave me the only reasonable explanation I have heard for an external manual safety – that is NDs happening when reaching up and grabbing a Glock of the shelf. Yeah, yeah, fingers should be outside of the trigger guard, but people are people.

He claims that NDs have occurred when reaching up to retrieve a Glcok off a shelf in the locker room. Has it really happened with a Glock? Probably. Has it happened with other weapons? Probably. Did the presence or absence of an external safety make a difference? Probably not.

[Sleeperj21]

I have an xd40 service its not a bad gun but I prefer Sigs.

[Brandn2551]

I have seen two XD's blow up at the range which is enough for me to say never buy them. If you are going to just be shooting at the range thats one thing. Putting your life in the hands of your gun leaves no question GLOCK. If you want a gun with pieces taken from most of the great guns in history pick the XD if you want something to stand behind in a gun fight pick GLOCK. I take mine everywhere I go

[Kentucky_Guy]

i just traded my Glock 17 for an XD..

I love it......

[Kablam]

...The XD range has often been regarded as being the closest thing there is to a copy of the GLOCK pistols

I don't understand this statement...I've heard it alot, but don't get it. Different (higher bore axis), different (to me better) grip, extra safeties (not too fond of grip safeties). What's copied here...striker fired? Almost seems that the SW M&Ps are closer to a Glock than an XD.

Anyhow, shoot both and then decide. Either works!

[BrianC]

I have a XD9 Service Model and I like how it feels. It fits my hand very well, which was what led to me purchasing it. As far as it and Glocks, I just bought a G26 yesterday that I'm going to be carrying. I like them both. I agree with everyone else on here though, the Glocks are much easier to get parts for. I'm no expert in the field of weapons, but like someone previously stated, Glocks are issued to many departments while XDs are not, they are also the standard issue for many contractors working in Iraq.

Anyhow, I like my XD very much and I like the Glock...

[Jettubby]

Why does it have to be "Glock versus XD". Can't it be "Glock or XD"? Can there not be two fine firearms that a person buys based on user preference? They are both fine weapons. It just depends on your preference ameho.

[Esco]

I really liked and wanted an XD so bad. When I first held it it felt better than a glock but then after a while it felt the same. I shot both many times and I can't get over how badly the grip safety pinches the web of my hand....Anyways, I was shooting my friend's XD9 and right after shot my other friend's G17 and the guy with the XD just watching noticed how much more accurate and quicker my shots were with the Glock. I prefer Glock over XD.

[Rocetmal]

I've shot a couple XDs and am considering one. I'm curious about the Glock 19/23 vs the XD series - particularly with the new compact XD .45 that is a 10 rounder. I don't see much in the way of dimensional specs on the .45.

I can't get any hits on the search with "XD" and "SAXD".

Hang on, are you comparing gun frames or trying to decide between calibers? The way you word your question it sounds like you want to decide between a G19, G23, or XD45

[Bonstrosity26]

Remember you posted this question on a glock forum and that you might get a different answer on the xd forum. I owned the standard size xd40, I thought it was a decent firearm but what sold me on the glock besides what some of the other people have said is that the plethora of after market parts. Glock has everything under the sun while for the XD when I owned it you could not purchase any part if it broke, it would have to be sent back to get fixed.

[striker777]

I have a XD 5" tactical in 40 it's a great gun feels great in my hands and I have never had any issues with it,
Some differences metal sights, metal trigger, load indicator, strike indicator, mine shoots excellent..... but I do like my G22 and have to say it's close they both have my respect.

[Tx1911]

I have seen two XD's blow up at the range which is enough for me to say never buy them. If you are going to just be shooting at the range thats one thing. Putting your life in the hands of your gun leaves no question GLOCK. If you want a gun with pieces taken from most of the great guns in history pick the XD if you want something to stand behind in a gun fight pick GLOCK. I take mine everywhere I go

That is the fist time I have EVER heard of such a thing happening to an XD. Sounds like the person was using some bad reloads. And I've never seen a Glock blow up either in person, I have seen many pics of Glock owners posting their Glocks going ka-boom though.

[Tx1911]

Over 70% of the L.E. Agencies in the USA use Glock. 0% use XD's. I think you can figure out the moral to this story.:whistling:

I don't have them in front of me but their are some police departments that are using XDs. When I get the info I will post it.

Moral .... well Glock came out at the right time with the right pistol IMHO. L.E. Agencies were needing a high cap pistol that they could buy for CHEAP and was reliable. The Glock fit the bill. I also believe that Ruger and Beretta at the time L.E. agencies were switching over to Glock were available ( the P85 and M9 ). The Glock was cheaper than the rest and that was a big selling point.

[AustinTx]

The XD was a pretty good pistol when it was a model 2000 or such and cost $300.

[JJMGlockTrumpet]

A buddy and I went to the range last weekend. He just bought an XD-9 and I have a
G19. I fired them back to back to do some comparisons as I was always curious about the XD. I liked the feel of the Glock trigger better; it seemed that is was a shorter pull. I liked my sights better, Truglo TFO versus stock XD sights. I like each grip for different reasons. Recoil on the XD felt a touch lighter, my buddy also commented on this. I shot the Glock just a little better, but that is what I am used to. All in all I think the XD is a good gun. I might be looking at the XD.45 versus the G21SF for my next pistol purchase.

[Tiprip]

The thing I really like about the XD45 is the grip dimensions. I carry a G19 and I strongly feel that the grip dimensions (for me anyway) are the most compact a pistol's grip can be made and not compromise shootability. Most compacts or sub-compacts don't give you place to put your pinky unless you get some sort of finger hook base plate for the mag. The XD45 seems to approximate that magic grip dimension of the G19. If Springfield had made a 19 sized XD, I might have been more reluctant to switch to the G19. I've always been partial to the Browning Hi-Power/CZ75 grip profile that the XD shares. But all told, I'm very happy with my 19.

[TommyTomTom]

This is pretty much a weekly thread, and so you'll get answers all over the board, just like you would @ XDtalk.com. Many people on this board have both. I happen to have both and can never imagine not having Glocks and XDs. The XD does borrow some things from Glock, but also from other fine makers such as Sig.

It's never been a better time in history to be in the market for modern combat pistols and I am not precluding the 1911. I like my XD for slightly different reasons than I like my Glock, but it's all personal preference. In my opinion, both are perfectly suitable for civilian, police, and military duty as is. Both have passed absurd torture tests over the years, they're accurate, reliable, and tough as axe handles.

[Short Bus]

There is a local PD here that issues the XD. They traded in the Kimber pro carry II for the XDs. Just a little FYI. I have a G23 and love it. I also love the feel of the XD Sub-compacts. I have not shot one yet, but they feel great. Very well balanced.

[hi_desert]

Maybe I missed it but nobody mentioned the trigger reset. Its the one thing that I didn't like about the XD. Glock has a very short and distinct reset, you have to let the XD trigger just about all the way out before it resets for the next shot.

[TommyTomTom]

hi_desert -- you are right about the trigger reset. It is easily remedied if you know what you're doing, but it does require a modification of the XD trigger which could cost $80 to $100 if you have it customized by a professional. I have left my XD stock, but for the most part -- the XD can be shot reasonably fast. The stock Glock trigger can be manipulated faster than the stock XD trigger (imo). In stock form however, the XD trigger is smoother and more satisfying than the Glock (imo).

Maybe I missed it but nobody mentioned the trigger reset. Its the one thing that I didn't like about the XD. Glock has a very short and distinct reset, you have to let the XD trigger just about all the way out before it resets for the next shot.

[pangris]

Eh, momentary consideration. I'm sticking with the Glock.

[THEPOPE]

Old topic, but it needs pointed out that Glocks are copies of earlier pistols, too, they were NOT the first polymer framed guns around, contrary what folks would believe.....just not true.

Most everything is a copy of or an improvement on an existing design or idea.

I own Glock, I own XD, I own STI, I own Brownings, I own Rugers....love 'em all.

I took on all comers in the last 5 leagues I belong in, and whipped all comers with all these pistols EXCEPT the Glock.

The XD .45 performed flawlessly, and the last shoot, I beat all with one hand 50 feet slow fire ten week league.....free standing.

I can't do that with Glock, but I would carry nothing else, as I think the G-19 is simply the best combat carry arm ever built.

Variety is the spice of life, so there, this is my story in a nut-shell.

I am out sirs and maaams :cool:

[Radjxf]

Over 70% of the L.E. Agencies in the USA use Glock. 0% use XD's. I think you can figure out the moral to this story.:whistling:

Yes, Glock nearly gives pistols away to LE agencies.....:whistling:
0% not quite accurate either as my local sheriff's dept is issued XD45's.

I have an XD9 and XD45, abosolutely love them both, esp the 45. Much better ergos than any Glock and more natural grip angle--shoots better than my Glocks (in my hands). I think they have one more safety because they have to: the striker is fully cocked vs partially precocked in the Glock design.
The downers: goofy loaded chamber indicator and less accessories. Oh, and they don't yet make a 'little' gun as good as my G26!

[grifman23]

XD's are lots of fun but...

They are still working out kinks and replacement parts are sometimes difficult to come by. Aftermarket, forget about it. Another year and it should be a smoother/stronger transition.

[ctpistol]

owned a couple Xds....relaible and accurate...but that horrible trigger reset and lowend finish sent them down the road.

Still have a few Glocks. Dont shoot them much but they are keepers.

[AustinTx]

Old topic, but it needs pointed out that Glocks are copies of earlier pistols, too, they were NOT the first polymer framed guns around, contrary what folks would believe.....just not true.

Most everything is a copy of or an improvement on an existing design or idea.

I own Glock, I own XD, I own STI, I own Brownings, I own Rugers....love 'em all.

I took on all comers in the last 5 leagues I belong in, and whipped all comers with all these pistols EXCEPT the Glock.

The XD .45 performed flawlessly, and the last shoot, I beat all with one hand 50 feet slow fire ten week league.....free standing.

I can't do that with Glock, but I would carry nothing else, as I think the G-19 is simply the best combat carry arm ever built.

Variety is the spice of life, so there, this is my story in a nut-shell.

I am out sirs and maaams :cool:


They may have copied polymer frames from someone else. They certainly didn't copy the internals, the finish or the mags. Never seen anything like that except Glock. S&W copied the Glock and got a lawsuit for their trouble.

[Jason607]

Talking to a LEO about his dept reluctance to issue Glocks. He gave me the only reasonable explanation I have heard for an external manual safety – that is NDs happening when reaching up and grabbing a Glock of the shelf. Yeah, yeah, fingers should be outside of the trigger guard, but people are people.

He claims that NDs have occurred when reaching up to retrieve a Glcok off a shelf in the locker room. Has it really happened with a Glock? Probably. Has it happened with other weapons? Probably. Did the presence or absence of an external safety make a difference? Probably not.

How in the hell does someone grab a gun off a shelf and do that? To think this idiot that did this is a LEO? I hear people worried that they will reach for thier gun on a nightstand being half asleep and accidently doing this. Well, that is stupid too. How impared do your motor skills have to be to do something on that level of stupid??? I have known some people who can barley walk first thing in the morning. They are always caffene addicts, and usually stupid and should not own guns.

[LeeMajors]

I own an XD9 Service and love it. I may end up trading it in on a G19, however, because I want something a bit easier to carry, and not as heavy.

Both are great pistols, but I bought the XD because I like the ergonomics and it was the right pistol for the time (range/nightstand). I will likely end up with a G19 because I prefer the flexbility of it.

Both shoot well and are as tough as nails. Go with your gut.

[elcuchillo]

I have one G22 and 2 XD 45 4". I like both models and will probably keep the Glock and one of the 45s.

I bought the newer XD off a friend who needed money, and I figures with parts being sparse it would be nice to have a spare. But I have never had a problem with the original, and neither he nor I have fired the other. SO I will probably sell it (or maybe trade for a G19/26).

Back on topic, I have found them apples and oranges. Different feel to eahc but I like them both.

[brickboy240]

I have both an XD40 4" and a Glock 22. Owned the XD for 6 years...the G22 since 1994.

Guess what...NEITHER has failed or bobbled a round since I bought them. Yes...100% reliable. Accuracy between the two is hardly worth mentioning because they group very similar. Haven't seen any rust on the slide or cracked locking block and you'd think that after 5 years and tons of 40SW ammo, I'd see these things crop up but not at all.

Did I get the only good XD40? I dunno, but I would NOT call the XD junk - it shoots really well and had a great trigger right out of the box. The fact thatI cannot get parts for the XD has really not worried me. I have not needed extra parts and Springfield has a lifetime warranty and excellent customer service, so people make a big deal out of these things when its not a worry to 99% of shooters.

Glock shooters are "suposed" to hate the XD just as the Colt 1911 guys are programmed to hate Kimbers, but my experiences with the XD have shown me you could do ALOT worse than the XD! Flame if you wish but I report what I know.

I am keeping both of them. Pistols that work 100% of the time tend to hang around my safe...the jammers go away.

- Brickboy240

[KnightOfTheOlde]

I have a Glock 19, 30 and a service model XD-45. they are both great guns, ONE THING the XD does have going for it is you can shoot lead and reloads. overall I think the Glocs are a littl beeter guns, more shootable.

[magpie maniac]

I own a G17 and a mate of mine has an XD9. I've shot his XD quite a bit.

If I were just going to hold a gun in my right hand 24/7, I'd probably buy the XD. But since I often have to aim and fire a gun rather than just hold it, I prefer the Glock far more than the XD.

I don't care for the XD's trigger pull at all (much too long) and we're both more accurate with the Glock. I think he sort of regrets the XD and plans to eventually buy a G19.

[Lone Wolf8634]

How in the hell does someone grab a gun off a shelf and do that? To think this idiot that did this is a LEO? I hear people worried that they will reach for thier gun on a nightstand being half asleep and accidently doing this. Well, that is stupid too. How impared do your motor skills have to be to do something on that level of stupid??? I have known some people who can barley walk first thing in the morning. They are always caffene addicts, and usually stupid and should not own guns.

Little judgemental arent we?
I am not one of those people that awake instanty. I am a caffiene addict. My motor skills are fine, its the brain that hasnt quite woke up yet.
However, I dont consider myself "stupid" since I've already thought of my own solution to this little problem.
Next time you feel as if YOU might be perfect, take a stroll across a lake.
Can't wait to hear the results.:supergrin:

[enzomedici]

I sold my Glock 19 and got an XD 9mm. I like Glocks in general but prefer the XD and here are my reasons. They may or may not matter to you.

The XD Points better for me and has a more comfortable natural grip angle.
Easier breakdown.
I like the added peace of mind of the grip safety.
XD Sights are Steel & on Glocks are plastic.
XD chamber is Fully Supported, Glocks are not.
XD Has Steel Removable Slide Rails / Glocks are Molded into the Plastic Frame.
Nicer magazines.
Ambidextrious mag release.
Loaded chamber indicator that is easy to see.
Lifetime warranty.

Those are my reasons, but everyone will have their own preferences. I like the quote that one day you will become a man when you start saying "I'll have what I want, instead of, I'll have what he's having."
Shoot 'em both, get the one for your needs & preferences. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks. End of the story.

[sevenpedaler]

I thought I had the "real deal" when I bought my XD .45c It was a fairly good pistol (my first actually) and right away it felt better in my hand.
I felt it was too big for carry, even though it was a compact, so I picked up a G36. At first I thought I would hate that little pistol till I was knocking out waaay tighter groups with the Glock.
The XD felt like a sloppy old whore compared to my Glocks. The finish isn't as nice the frame polymer doesn't seem to be as tough.
I'm now a devout Glock guy. I love my 20 especially. Why buy a copy of the real deal? Why buy a pistol that has to pay royalties to Glock for copying it's trigger?
If you want an XD, that's totally cool. Just keep in mind that if you ever want to trade her in, you are going to get bent over. SA is flooding the market with what I consider a cheap pistol. I was lucky to get a fair trade on my G20 a while back. Buy it, shoot it, keep it.

[TRMN8R]

The finish is just the same as glocks.

No it's not.

Although I agree you with you on most of your other points regarding the XD, just like those items, the XD is the SA version of a Glock.

That said, for those who don't know, Tenifer is not a finish, but a treatment to the barrel and slide to give it superior hardness (almost equal to that of a diamond), as well as optimum scratch and corrosion resistance. Glock actually calls this a "surface refinement". Then, the current almost "glossy", yet non-reflective finish is applied to the slide.

XD's OTOH, have a Melonite (QPQ) treatment with a basically "powder coated", non-reflective flat finish.

It IS an excellent application, but not quite as good as Tenifer. That goes without saying that the Tenifer treatment isn't even permitted to be done in CONUS, whereas the Melonite still can be. Something to do with violating health and environment standards.

To put it in basic terms, from the way I understand it, the major difference between the two treatments is the composition of the chemical salt bath that impregnates the metals.

So again, like the XD and Glock themselves, the treatments are "similar", but NOT the same.

[mballai]

I would gladly buy an XD if I had not issues being dependent on Springfield Armory and/or a gunsmith to work on the gun. That I do not have to do that for my Glocks is freedom. I really like Springfield and the XDs are very good guns, but the Glock works better for me.

[rottglocken]

I have seen two XD's blow up at the range which is enough for me to say never buy them.

Could you elaborate on this. I might be interested in picking up a .40, and it basically comes down to a G23 or SAXD Service. I have read all the urban lore on Ka-Booms with Glock .40's, but haven't run across the same legendary propensity to blow up w.r.t. the SAXD's. So, I'm quite interested in this statement.

What caliber, for one thing?

[dasmi]

Shot an XD9, didn't like it.

[crankbait11]

Hiya Pangris,

Any of Springfield's XD range is an excellent buy, despite a questionable history, (Sorry heres my edited bit) [COLOR="Blue"]part's are made in Croatia BUT they are now assembled in the USA and no longer in Europe.

You need to google (copy and paste this -->) Ultra Safety Assurance . That's what the U.S.A. stands for on the slide of the xd. It still however says Croatia on the top under the sa insignia. Sleazy marketing ploy imo and sa does not claim the gun is made in the U.S.. Assembled, yes, made, no. They have sold countless xd's just because people think its an American made product. Wrong. I myself could care less where a gun is made as long as its a good product, which I believe the xd is, but I think its bad marketing to use U.S.A. as a selling point and designate a different meaning for the abbreviation.

[Brandn2551]

Could you elaborate on this. I might be interested in picking up a .40, and it basically comes down to a G23 or SAXD Service. I have read all the urban lore on Ka-Booms with Glock .40's, but haven't run across the same legendary propensity to blow up w.r.t. the SAXD's. So, I'm quite interested in this statement.

What caliber, for one thing?

Both of the guns were .40 cal and one had the feed ramp crack all the way through after 1,000rds and the other had the trigger spring and another small piece break with under 500rds this happened while a loaded round was in the chamber and that creates a problem in it self. My friend had to take the gun to a gun smith and break it open. Anytime you have to break something so you can fix it thats not good. Springfield did fix both but that has never happened with any of the glocks we shoot with or atleast till last night when I had my slide stop break on my glock 22 after 20,000rds and my buddies trigger spring broke on his glock 22 after 25,000rds $4.00 to fix my glock after thousands in ammo I'm glock for the rest of my life. Brandn2551

[TxGun]

I've had 2 XDs. Liked the "feel"; liked the grip safety. Decent pistols, but not a reliable as Glocks. Occasional FTF, FTE problems. Not serious, but enough to make me uneasy. Biggest issue was parts are impossible to come by...both factory and after-market. Springfield Armory has good customer service and that's a good thing...had a firing pin break and had to send one of the guns in. 6 week turnaround there. Another minor point: "Made in Croatia" was a turn-off for me because, unlike Austria & Germany & the Czech Repub., they are not known for their engineering. Not a huge deal, but that nagged at me. :worried: So, I'll take Glock all day over the XD.

[Tiel Raptor]

I have owned and shot and qualified with an XD 40 Tact and G35. I still own the XD. Alot of LEOs have used the XD, most went back to Glocks due to peer pressure! I BS you not! The XD didn't have all the extras that you can get on the open market.

I personally don't need anyhting else on a handgun. Why would you need to overhaul a new pistol?

I just wish the XD had a 22lr upper for it!

Tiel