.22 conversion kit

[G22Dubrusky]

i ordered an advantage arms(G17/22) from tgscom on 08/29/07 got it on 01/17/08. will take it to the range on saturday. boy, those things must be popular.

[diamondmike]

those things must be popular.

I do not know how popular they are but do know they are not cheap.

I considered one until I figured out the total cost and found I could buy a entire 22 pistol for about the same price.

But have to admit they are nice!.

[Keoking]

Pick up some 550rd boxes of Remington Golden and you should be good to go. I've tried 3 other cheap 22lr brands and this is the only one that works consistently.

[diamondmike]

The best and most accurate ammo that I ever found and use is Winchester 22LR copper dipped.

Cost a little more but worth it when cleaning time comes and its important to hit your mark.

[familywgn]

I am still on the fence about getting one, but I figure for the price of the conversion and a few magazine, I can get about 1000 rounds on .40sw to practice with. I know I like my 10/22 nothing but pure fun at the range, but I know I need to practice my defensive skill too.

[diamondmike]

I am still on the fence about getting one, but I figure for the price of the conversion and a few magazine, I can get about 1000 rounds on .40sw to practice with. I know I like my 10/22 nothing but pure fun at the range, but I know I need to practice my defensive skill too.

And with the conversion it will not make you any better with the gun when you go back to 40 caliber.

The 22 is much different than a 40 and when converting a gun you have a totally different barrel so aiming will be different than when the 40 barrel is in the gun.

If your buying it for plinking or target shooting its ok but if your buying it to think it will make you better when shooting 40 caliber your wrong.

[S&WM&PAR15T&G34]

The best thing I ever added to a Glock 19 I paid $199.99 FOR THE LE Version

[vafish]

And with the conversion it will not make you any better with the gun when you go back to 40 caliber.

The 22 is much different than a 40 and when converting a gun you have a totally different barrel so aiming will be different than when the 40 barrel is in the gun.

If your buying it for plinking or target shooting its ok but if your buying it to think it will make you better when shooting 40 caliber your wrong.

I disagree completely.

Dry firing doesn't give the feel of shooting at all, yet it is extremely valuable as part of a practice routine.

Air soft doesn't give as much recoil as a .22 conversion kit, yet there is a Japanese fellow that isn't allowed to own a firearm in his home country. He practices year round with an air soft gun, then goes out to an IPSC match out of country and borrows a gun to shoot the match. IIRC the last IPSC world championship he ended up in 5th place.

The .22 will feel lighter, but you will have the same trigger pull and feel as your .40.

A conversion kit is a great way to get inexpensive practice with your Glock. Think of it as dry fire practice with feedback.

It is not a complete substitute for practice with the real thing. Take it to the range, put a couple hundred rounds of 22LR through it, then replace the kit with your .40 Slide and put a box of .40's through it.

[edrobert]

I disagree completely.

Dry firing doesn't give the feel of shooting at all, yet it is extremely valuable as part of a practice routine.

Air soft doesn't give as much recoil as a .22 conversion kit, yet there is a Japanese fellow that isn't allowed to own a firearm in his home country. He practices year round with an air soft gun, then goes out to an IPSC match out of country and borrows a gun to shoot the match. IIRC the last IPSC world championship he ended up in 5th place.

The .22 will feel lighter, but you will have the same trigger pull and feel as your .40.

A conversion kit is a great way to get inexpensive practice with your Glock. Think of it as dry fire practice with feedback.

It is not a complete substitute for practice with the real thing. Take it to the range, put a couple hundred rounds of 22LR through it, then replace the kit with your .40 Slide and put a box of .40's through it.

Plus you get to practice your gun handling skills!

[40Pirate]

Definitely a good practice tool.

Put the same sights on it as you have on your main pistol for an added bonus.

[Cambo]

And with the conversion it will not make you any better with the gun when you go back to 40 caliber.

The 22 is much different than a 40 and when converting a gun you have a totally different barrel so aiming will be different than when the 40 barrel is in the gun.

If your buying it for plinking or target shooting its ok but if your buying it to think it will make you better when shooting 40 caliber your wrong.

I disagree as well. With lots of practice with my CZ Kadet Kit, my CZ shooting ability has increased dramatically. I am currently working on my Glock shooting with my AA kit, and it looks promising as well.

[Cobra64]

I disagree completely.

Dry firing doesn't give the feel of shooting at all, yet it is extremely valuable as part of a practice routine.

The .22 will feel lighter, but you will have the same trigger pull and feel as your .40.

A conversion kit is a great way to get inexpensive practice with your Glock. Think of it as dry fire practice with feedback.

It is not a complete substitute for practice with the real thing. Take it to the range, put a couple hundred rounds of 22LR through it, then replace the kit with your .40 Slide and put a box of .40's through it.

Bingo! Many people feel that dry firing is for pansies. And since a .22 is essentially recoil-less, it's not cool and doesn't provide the same feedback as a .40, 9mm, ... But you're right on with the grip, trigger, feel using a .22 conversion. I'm getting a .22 conversion for one of my SiGs; it will be a compromise to the real thing but will improve my trigger control that improved immensly after a Grayguns class.

[Cobra64]

Plus you get to practice your gun handling skills!
Zactly.

[Douglas in CT]

Pick up some 550rd boxes of Remington Golden and you should be good to go. I've tried 3 other cheap 22lr brands and this is the only one that works consistently.
While I have not used Rem Goldens, I can recommend CCI Mini Max High Velocity .22LR ammo. :cool:

[RM]

And with the conversion it will not make you any better with the gun when you go back to 40 caliber.

The 22 is much different than a 40 and when converting a gun you have a totally different barrel so aiming will be different than when the 40 barrel is in the gun.

If your buying it for plinking or target shooting its ok but if your buying it to think it will make you better when shooting 40 caliber your wrong.


I would have to say that is totally untrue. I use a 22 converter for my M9 and my Glock, my normal training routine is to go out and shoot ever drill I was planning on doing that day with the 22, sometimes times ten times over. Than switching to the full power upper and doing it again. What I found was my group sizes decreased, my presentation times decreased and my weapons handling improved.

Who is going to be better someone with 10000 presentations and follow throughs, with a majority being 22. Or someone who has done it 400-500 but all full powered?

One thing I have found even though I am someone who is is pretty good shape, exercised 4-5 days a week, shoot every weekend, trains Marines on small arms and the occasional civilian. Is that I can practice allot more with the 22 than I can a full power weapon. I can shoot 3-4 bricks and not get tired, but if I try to shoot 500 rounds of full power in a session buy the end I loose accuracy because of fatigue.

[epsylum]

I agree with Cobra and vafish. (and now RM since he posted while I was typing mine ;) )

My shooting dramatically improved when I started shooting a lot of .22lr.

Besides, recoil shouldn't factor into accurate shooting if you are doing it right. If it is, then you are flinching/anticipating the recoil. That is why I as well as many other people can shoot a .460 magnum just as accurately as a 9mm (sometimes more so).

The .22lr takes the recoil out of the equation more or less and lets you focus on the fundementals.

Just be careful. .22s are fun and addictive. ;)

[Cobra64]

Besides, recoil shouldn't factor into accurate shooting if you are doing it right. If it is, then you are flinching/anticipating the recoil. That is why I as well as many other people can shoot a .460 magnum just as accurately as a 9mm (sometimes more so).

The .22lr takes the recoil out of the equation more or less and lets you focus on the fundementals.

Just be careful. .22s are fun and addictive. ;)

"... lets you focus on the fundementals."

You nailed it!

Bruce Gray told us, and stressed, that dry firing is just shooting wiithout the noise.

[huaco]

Some triggers just keep getting better with use. A 22 coversion is a cheap way to get there. My CZ PCR has been slow to smooth out but it's coming along faster with the help of the Kadet Kit I found at Gander Mountain for $150 with only one mag. Mine compares with my Buckmark for accuracy from the bench and beats the heck out of it for reliability.

[G22Dubrusky]

son and i took the g22 w/conversion kit to the range today. we love it. fit and finish is great. accuracy is plenty good enough.walmart gold bullets(550 pack) ran flawlessly. just like they said it would. would not feed or eject one single round of federal ammo. just like they said.

[BamaTrooper]

Pick up some 550rd boxes of Remington Golden and you should be good to go. I've tried 3 other cheap 22lr brands and this is the only one that works consistently.

Isn't it one of the bullets that AA recommends?

[BamaTrooper]

And with the conversion it will not make you any better with the gun when you go back to 40 caliber.

The 22 is much different than a 40 and when converting a gun you have a totally different barrel so aiming will be different than when the 40 barrel is in the gun.

If your buying it for plinking or target shooting its ok but if your buying it to think it will make you better when shooting 40 caliber your wrong.

Was going to refute some of these claims, but others already have.
No one is saying shooting a 22 will help you with 40 cal recoil.

[Troubleshooter]

i ordered an advantage arms(G17/22) from tgscom on 08/29/07 got it on 01/17/08. will take it to the range on saturday. boy, those things must be popular.

I ordered one from TopGlock on 12/8/07. I inquired about delivery on 12/14/07 and was told it would be 30 to 60 days.

Anyone order a conversion from TopGlock? What was your actual delivery time?

I wanted to get plenty of trigger time at the indoor range this winter and it looks like I might not get it for some time.

[Cobra64]

Was going to refute some of these claims, but others already have.
No one is saying shooting a 22 will help you with 40 cal recoil.Probably because many folks don't feel gun handling skills such as draw, reholstering, presentation and trigger prep & control are necessary. They go to the range to find out how fast they can blow off three boxes of ammo. I see that all the time. And dry fire? What's dry fire? Dude! That ain't no fun.

[Troubleshooter]

[QUOTE=Cobra64;9695833] trigger prep & control are necessary. QUOTE]

Thats what I want to work on with live ammo. I would rather have live feed back instead of dry fire. With the .22 it is $0.02 vs 9mm @ 0.16 per shot.

[Cobra64]

[QUOTE=Cobra64;9695833] trigger prep & control are necessary. QUOTE]

Thats what I want to work on with live ammo. I would rather have live feed back instead of dry fire. With the .22 it is $0.02 vs 9mm @ 0.16 per shot.Smart man! I'm waiting for SiG's .22 conversion kits to come out this Spring so I can practice with .22 ammo on my full size (real) guns as you are wanting to do.

Cheers!

[costanza187]

i ordered an advantage arms(G17/22) from tgscom on 08/29/07 got it on 01/17/08. will take it to the range on saturday. boy, those things must be popular.

Are they so backlogged that it takes about 5 months to get one?? :shocked:

[Troubleshooter]

Are they so backlogged that it takes about 5 months to get one?? :shocked:

Must be, I'm still waiting.

Anyone know who has them in stock?

If so I'll cancel my order ftom topGlock and order from another source.