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I have an assignment for you.
I noticed when I was at Greenwood Park Mall the other day that the mall rules said something like "no weapons even with LTCH". At Washington Square Mall the sign reads "No weapons of any kind". I thought it was interesting that there was two different ways of stating the same rule. Here is your mission if you decide to accept it. Use your cell phone camera and snap a picture of the "no weapons" rule at your local Simon mall and post it. I would do so but I do not have a camera in my cell phone and the mall does not like you taking pictures inside (something about terrorism and security :upeyes:)
snuffy33
01-29-2008, 17:41
I'll ad that to my list of reasons why I shop elsewhere.
Scutter01
01-29-2008, 18:02
Use your cell phone camera and snap a picture of the "no weapons" rule at your local Simon mall and post it.
Castleton Square Mall in Fishers is a Simon mall and they have no such signs posted, even on their "rules" list at the entrance.
Interestingly enough, though, they do have a "no hoodies" rule.
Castleton Square Mall in Fishers is a Simon mall and they have no such signs posted, even on their "rules" list at the entrance.
Interestingly enough, though, they do have a "no hoodies" rule.
I wish they had a "PULL UP YOUR PANTS!" rule.
Scutter01
01-29-2008, 20:26
I wish they had a "PULL UP YOUR PANTS!" rule.
Yeah, it couldn't be the women who do that, could it? Had to be the men.
Yeah, it couldn't be the women who do that, could it? Had to be the men.
Someone is forgetting about the ass crack jeans that were all the rage a few years ago. ;)
Scutter01
01-29-2008, 21:17
Someone is forgetting about the ass crack jeans that were all the rage a few years ago. ;)
I didn't forget. I've been lobbying for them to make a comeback. The whale-tail thong is one of mankind's greatest inventions, right between manned spaceflight and pre-packaged snack cakes.
MakeMineaP99
01-29-2008, 21:22
University Park Mall in Mishawaka has no such signs. I've never even seen a rules list.
That said, after shots fired at UP mall in 2006, I will not enter that mall without a G17 and two spare mags.
Castleton Square Mall interestingly enough, though, they do have a "no hoodies" rule.
WHAT!?!
Okay, that's nuts.
I know several bars in Ripple have no hoodie rules, but the mall.
Almost all of my sweat shirts are hoodies.
Does this mean Dick's can't sell them?
Scutter01
01-29-2008, 21:42
WHAT!?!
Okay, that's nuts.
I know several bars in Ripple have no hoodie rules, but the mall.
Almost all of my sweat shirts are hoodies.
Does this mean Dick's can't sell them?
You can wear hoodies, you just can't wear the hood over your head or the scary Segway-riding mall cops will yell at you. And yes, it is nuts. Why they think it will help deter crime is beyond me. "Associated with gang activity" or something, I'm sure.
I actually saw one instructing a ten year old kid wearing a knit cap with his hood over it last weekend. The kid was walking with his mom. I'll bet the guy went home that night and told his wife he broke up a major terrorism plot at work that day. It amused me to no end to stand not ten feet away and watch this while carrying my Springfield under my jacket.
Someone is forgetting about the ass crack jeans that were all the rage a few years ago. ;)
You mean that's not "in" anymore? Damn.... :crying:
MakeMineaP99
01-29-2008, 21:58
You can wear hoodies, you just can't wear the hood over your head or the scary Segway-riding mall cops will yell at you. And yes, it is nuts. Why they think it will help deter crime is beyond me. "Associated with gang activity" or something, I'm sure.
I actually saw one instructing a ten year old kid wearing a knit cap with his hood over it last weekend. The kid was walking with his mom. I'll bet the guy went home that night and told his wife he broke up a major terrorism plot at work that day. It amused me to no end to stand not ten feet away and watch this while carrying my Springfield under my jacket.
Now that's stupid. I'm sorry, I don't take orders from any mall ninja, especially on a Segway. We should have a GT get together at the mall, open carry with hoods up.
Now that's stupid. I'm sorry, I don't take orders from any mall ninja, especially on a Segway. We should have a GT get together at the mall, open carry with hoods up.
Count me in for that!
Oh wait, that means I have to go to the mall.
I wonder what the mall ninja would say if I told him to go cram his Smokey the Bear hat up his Segway. (Ed Note: I hate our new Smokey the Bear hats, no offense to the bear)
Good Bear hat:
http://www.smokeybear.com/
Bad Bear hat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_bhFXdmA4&feature=related
Now that's stupid. I'm sorry, I don't take orders from any mall ninja, especially on a Segway. We should have a GT get together at the mall, open carry with hoods up.
Personally, I wouldn't take orders from the President if he were on a Segway!
Those things just screeeam "DO NOT RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!!!"
Lol.
MakeMineaP99
01-29-2008, 22:28
Count me in for that!
Oh wait, that means I have to go to the mall.
I wonder what the mall ninja would say if I told him to go cram his Smokey the Bear hat up his Segway. (Ed Note: I hate our new Smokey the Bear hats, no offense to the bear)
Good Bear hat:
http://www.smokeybear.com/
Bad Bear hat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_bhFXdmA4&feature=related
You should ask him if he'll need some ketchup.
On a more serious note, do y'all have to wear your hate on duty? I'm going to mistake you for an ISP trooper (no offense TLH). :rofl:
You should ask him if he'll need some ketchup.
On a more serious note, do y'all have to wear your hate on duty? I'm going to mistake you for an ISP trooper (no offense TLH). :rofl:
Most metro guys I work with don't even have their "campaign hat" put together. Its still in the box. I just don't think they look right at all with the metro uniform.
At least you get a decent hat though IPDBrad. We are only authorized baseball caps. They don't help much in the rain. :steamed:
Indy_Guy_77
01-30-2008, 07:55
I have an assignment for you.
I noticed when I was at Greenwood Park Mall the other day that the mall rules said something like "no weapons even with LTCH". At Washington Square Mall the sign reads "No weapons of any kind". I thought it was interesting that there was two different ways of stating the same rule. Here is your mission if you decide to accept it. Use your cell phone camera and snap a picture of the "no weapons" rule at your local Simon mall and post it. I would do so but I do not have a camera in my cell phone and the mall does not like you taking pictures inside (something about terrorism and security :upeyes:)
And which door is this posted on? I ain't ne'er seen it.
If you want to see a funny sign, go across the parking lot to Jared Jewelry...read theirs!
-J-
You should ask him if he'll need some ketchup.
On a more serious note, do y'all have to wear your hate on duty? I'm going to mistake you for an ISP trooper (no offense TLH). :rofl:
Thank God we don't. I put mine together, with the help of the video and a buddy. I knew if I waited until the day I had to wear it I wouldn't remember how.
There are a lot of guys who have thrown them in the attic, without putting them together.
Just not the right hat for a big city PD.
And which door is this posted on? I ain't ne'er seen it.
If you want to see a funny sign, go across the parking lot to Jared Jewelry...read theirs!
-J-
Saw it the enterance where Applebees is located.
Washington Square did not have any such "rule" two years ago. Then the "new" rule was added to the sign in red about a year ago. That sign has now been replaced with one with it in black.
Thank God we don't. I put mine together, with the help of the video and a buddy. I knew if I waited until the day I had to wear it I wouldn't remember how.
There are a lot of guys who have thrown them in the attic, without putting them together.
Just not the right hat for a big city PD.
So what are you going to wear for Frank's formal farewell speech when the CCC takes back IMPD? :rofl:
So what are you going to wear for Frank's formal farewell speech when the CCC takes back IMPD? :rofl:
Same thing I wore when Bart said bye bye....
.....a :supergrin:.....
...and some clothes of course.
I hate malls. The only time I set foot in one is around Christmas if I must.
If you want to see a funny sign, go across the parking lot to Jared Jewelry...read theirs!
-J-
I didn't even bother to look. I was in there for several hours before Christmas with Mr. 1911 on my hip the whole time. I had it covered by my shirt, but it is an OWB holster and the bottom tip of it sometimes hangs below the bottom of my shirt. Either they didn't see it or maybe the fact my brother and dad were spending over 3k there that they decided to ignore it.
As a bona fide mall ninja, you're good to carry (discreetly) in Terre Haute's mall (well...maybe after 3 when the morning shift goes home). Most of us on the evening shift either: don't care, request to see license, or actually prefer you carry since we can't. We're required to act on open carry (i.e. "please pretend to put it in your car/cover it up") in order to not get fired, but I've spoken with several people who were carrying and I can honestly say I've never even asked someone to put it in their car. Although to be honest I'm baffled as to why anyone would voluntarily go our mall.
Scutter01
02-01-2008, 06:48
request to see license,
With all due respect, I wouldn't show a mall cop my library card, let alone my LTCH or ID.
cougar_guy04
02-01-2008, 08:56
Although to be honest I'm baffled as to why anyone would voluntarily go our mall.
Heh . . . I understand. The family can't get me there without, well, putting a gun to my head.:wow:
rhino465
02-01-2008, 12:05
Eh, the mall in Terre Haute isn't that bad. They have a bookstore and a few other interesting things. It's not like Honey Creek is like Lafayette Square or Washington Square in Indy!
Hey ... if I became a mall cop, would I get to ride a Segway too? :supergrin:
Scutter01
02-01-2008, 13:44
Hey ... if I became a mall cop, would I get to ride a Segway too? :supergrin:
You know you can rent those downtown, right? Then you could pretend to be a mall cop, I guess. Patrol the riverside or something, shining your fire-starting flashlight at thugs.
I hate malls. The only time I set foot in one is around Christmas if I must.
That is exactly the time of year that I avoid the mall the most.
With all due respect, I wouldn't show a mall cop my library card, let alone my LTCH or ID.
I understand where you're coming from, many times I feel the same way. It's just that I risk my job even just asking for a license. I've almost been written up/fired for it more than once (because corporate thinks I should call the police), all it would have taken is for our corporate to have found out. It's just a simple request so I don't think twice about you and if I ever face disciplinary action I can at least say I saw a carry license. It's not me being a jerk, it's just me saying "hey, help me out here, I'm stuck in the middle." Again, concealed is concealed for me, this only applies when someone puts me in an awkward position.
Believe me, we'd rather not be wearing campaign hats/ties and dealing with stupid little things while dancing around bizarre corporate policies and managers, but that's just how it is for us. We make the best of it and put up with the ridicule of people along the way. Same for the little blinking light on the security vehicle going 24/7..... :dunno:
Those who work security in Terre Haute know the security opportunities are somewhat lacking. I went from being an on-call armed guard making 10.00/hr wearing a semi-comfortable uniform that I could conceal carry in (when not officially armed) to wearing the mall security monkey suit making considerably less and being unarmed just so I could have better hours. In fact, I actually just got my bachelor's degree and I'm working on getting in better shape so I can go into the military in the near future.
Anyway, that's just my way of trying to explain it a little from the other side, I'll put my flame suit on in the meantime. All that aside, I'm really glad you guys carry (since I can't) and I sincerely hope there are more like you at the mall than I'm aware of.
That is exactly the time of year that I avoid the mall the most.
Me too....:whistling:
:supergrin:
So when are we going to open carry with hoodies on and our butt crack showing?:supergrin:
Scutter01
02-03-2008, 08:24
So when are we going to open carry with hoodies on and our butt crack showing?:supergrin:
Just came back from Castleton Square Mall yesterday and can confirm that they changed their sign to create a VDZ. And you damn well better not wear a hoodie, either.
Just came back from Castleton Square Mall yesterday and can confirm that they changed their sign to create a VDZ. And you damn well better not wear a hoodie, either.
VDZ? And is there a story about the hoodie?
Scutter01
02-03-2008, 09:20
VDZ? And is there a story about the hoodie?
Victim Disarmament Zone. And the hoodie story is up there ^ a few posts.
Victim Disarmament Zone.
Nice.
Ironic with the gunplay the Pacers have been involved in the past couple of years.
MakeMineaP99
02-03-2008, 16:46
Nice.
Ironic with the gunplay the Pacers have been involved in the past couple of years.
We need more gun control. Professional Athletes should be banned from possessing firearms.
rhino465
02-03-2008, 17:47
Maybe if everyone rode Segways in the mall their hands would be too busy to shoot at each other.
The pacers have been in more gunfights than the IMPD since 2006...:supergrin:
MakeMineaP99
02-03-2008, 18:28
The pacers have been in more gunfights than the IMPD since 2006...:supergrin:
:rofl:
Ban professional athletes.
Maybe if everyone rode Segways in the mall their hands would be too busy to shoot at each other.
Yeah great idea.:whistling:
Next thing you know, Segway drivebys.
Scutter01
02-03-2008, 21:27
Yeah great idea.:whistling:
Next thing you know, Segway drivebys.
You could solve the driveby issue by passing Segway-control laws. It would suck to have to conceal them though. Good news for cargo pants manufacturers, though.
MakeMineaP99
02-03-2008, 22:55
You could solve the driveby issue by passing Segway-control laws. It would suck to have to conceal them though. Good news for cargo pants manufacturers, though.
Bet that would print.
IPDBrad, next time you stop someone for carrying a concealed Segway, make sure you tell him to get a quality holster for it. ;)
Did some recon on my Segway while wearing my hoodie.
The attached photo is that of the "Castleton Square Mall Rules"
Interesting to note, you can not bring your own Segway to the mall (this broke my heart). Nor can you carry a firearm or other weapon. Didn't see anything specifing hoodies (whew), however, their is verbage in this decidedly unAmerican list that would allow the MJ's to oust you.
Editorial:
I have previously denounced the IMPD county mounty style hats as the worst look ever. Noting that I am an avid cyclist and always wear a helmet when riding, let me now state the worst look ever is....
....being a Mall Ninja, riding a Segway, wearing a bicycle helmet!
FYI, only three mall rules were broken in the taking of this photo
-carrying a firearm
-wearing a hoodie up (open to interpretation
-taking a photo without permission
three mall rules were broken in the taking of this photo
criminal! :shocked:
Scutter01
02-04-2008, 13:55
Nor can you carry a firearm or other weapon.
I'm still gonna carry there. All they can do is ask me to leave.
cougar_guy04
02-04-2008, 14:30
Engaging in any unlawful activity or behavior is prohibited.
Man, I'm gonna have to find a different place to engage in unlawful activity next time I go to Indy.
rhino465
02-04-2008, 23:09
FYI, only three mall rules were broken in the taking of this photo
-carrying a firearm
-wearing a hoodie up (open to interpretation
-taking a photo without permission
SCOFFLAW!
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 00:03
I say we round up the mall ninjas and send them to cuba. :whistling:
They can take there sign with them. That will teach them to respect IPDBrad's authority. :supergrin:
Scutter01
02-05-2008, 00:06
I'm still waiting to hear how their sign is supposed to protect me from bad guys. I guess I can rip it off the wall and hit the bad guys over the head with it. But then, I guess it would be a weapon and cause me to be ejected.
/two of my friends mugged on two separate occasions in that mall parking lot....
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 00:08
I'm still waiting to hear how their sign is supposed to protect me from bad guys. I guess I can rip it off the wall and hit the bad guys over the head with it. But then, I guess it would be a weapon and cause me to be ejected.
/two of my friends mugged on two separate occasions in that mall parking lot....
You want to know something funny, the minute I step into a mall I become illiterate, yep that's right, can't read a thing.
They need to put up a pictographic sign, where's Kirk for an opinion when you need him? :rofl:
Did some recon on my Segway while wearing my hoodie.
The attached photo is that of the "Castleton Square Mall Rules"
Interesting to note, you can not bring your own Segway to the mall (this broke my heart). Nor can you carry a firearm or other weapon.
... snip ...
That is the same verbage as the sign at Greenwood Park Mall. Washington Square simply states "No weapons of any kind permitted."
Sorry Kirk, no swords or the like.
I say we round up the mall ninjas and send them to cuba. :whistling:
They can take there sign with them. That will teach them to respect IPDBrad's authority. :supergrin:
Wow, you guys are harsh! Can I at least take my three trauma plates taped to my back? :mallninja:
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 16:29
Wow, you guys are harsh! Can I at least take my three trauma plates taped to my back? :mallninja:
If you carry a firearm, you ain't a mall ninja.
Need me to send you one? :rofl:
If you carry a firearm, you ain't a mall ninja.
Need me to send you one? :rofl:
I used to be able to carry a firearm, prior to being a mall ninja. Does it count if I carry when I'm off the clock? :wavey: (I really like how the 5.11 holster shirt works under almost anything though............:whistling:)
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 16:53
I used to be able to carry a firearm, prior to being a mall ninja. Does it count if I carry when I'm off the clock? :wavey: (I really like how the 5.11 holster shirt works under almost anything though............:whistling:)
I guess, although mall ninjas never stop working, they are responsible for law and order. :rofl: ;)
Get a Kahr PM9 and a pocket holster, you'll never be a mall ninja again.
I guess, although mall ninjas never stop working, they are responsible for pointing you to the rest room. :rofl: ;)
Get a Kahr PM9 and a pocket holster, you'll never be a mall ninja again.
Fixed it for you ;)
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 17:10
Fixed it for you ;)
Thanks, Rich.
:rofl: :rofl:
In defense of RF7126, I've met him before, he's a stand up guy and not a mall ninja. :thumbsup:
Thanks, Rich.
:rofl: :rofl:
In defense of RF7126, I've met him before, he's a stand up guy and not a mall ninja. :thumbsup:
Thanks. That's kind of you to say, I know I wasn't exactly in a good mood with no sleep in 24 hours. :whistling:
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 19:38
Thanks. That's kind of you to say, I know I wasn't exactly in a good mood with no sleep in 24 hours. :whistling:
Talk about Murphy's law.
On a side note, I'm doing another gun deal at the gas station at 31 and 18 on Saturday. A bit ironic.
Talk about Murphy's law.
On a side note, I'm doing another gun deal at the gas station at 31 and 18 on Saturday. A bit ironic.
At least we know better than to go looking for some unverified place now. My mistake. :dunno: :embarassed:
boilergonzo
02-05-2008, 21:57
Is there any way to get data on the number of calls to police/911 regarding carjackings, armed robberies, physical assualt, etc. at the Castleton Square Mall (or other mall)? Wasn't the carjacking where the girl bailed out from that lot?
It would be interesting to have data in hand. We could all stand at the sign when we go in, and tell the patrons walking by "It is amazing they don't have armed guards, they disarmed law-abiding citizens, and now they are covering up the fifteen car thefts, seven car-jackings, and forty-eight robberies reported in the last 12 months" (all made up, until we get real data). Shrug and say "I come here when I have to, but I NEVER let my wife and kids in without me with them. I love them too much to send them into this crime pit!".
That car jacking you refer to wasn't reported by the news for 10-11 days when a pursuit occurred out on the west side. There was also an additional carjacking at the mall on the same day, different suspects. Apprehension was made on them, thanks to Onstar and some fine work by IMPD officers.
Castleton Square is the top location for police runs on North District. This is thanks in large part to the number of shoplifters and fraud cases that stem from there.
As far as violent crime, Castleton has very little considering the volume of people in the area, but it does exist.
MakeMineaP99
02-05-2008, 23:52
That car jacking you refer to wasn't reported by the news for 10-11 days when a pursuit occurred out on the west side. There was also an additional carjacking at the mall on the same day, different suspects. Apprehension was made on them, thanks to Onstar and some fine work by IMPD officers.
Castleton Square is the top location for police runs on North District. This is thanks in large part to the number of shoplifters and fraud cases that stem from there.
As far as violent crime, Castleton has very little considering the volume of people in the area, but it does exist.
So you'll be selling all your shootin' irons and moving to Castleton? :rofl:
As much as I dislike our mall, I suppose that's the advantage of smaller malls. We've not had a serious violent crime or even car theft in the last year that I know of. We've had a couple of vehicle break-ins and the usual fights between acquaintances but that's about it. That doesn't count stuff like shoplifting and fraud of course (Hautians seem fond of not paying for things). Actually most of the people I can recall offhand as being a serious problem come from Indianapolis, Gary, or occasionally come from one of the prisons.
Naturally it's due to the tactical skills of the elite mall ninjas there...........:rofl:
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