View Full Version : Slide lock with rounds in the mag
paulithepin
05-26-2002, 10:59
At the range yesterday with my G32 I would fire a round of S&B ammo and the slide would lock after each round. Initially it was working fine, the problem developed after approximately 100 rounds. I broke down the gun and the only problem I could find was the small wire spring on the extended slide release was broken. I replace the slide release with the original and the problem continued. I switched ammo to my carry ammo and the problem did not happen again. The gun has 2,250 rounds through it. Any suggestions as to possible causes or solutions? Thanks for any and all feedback.
Is the second locking block pin in the correct position (under the small pin)?
Sounds like it could be an installation problem to me.
WalterGA
05-26-2002, 14:27
Sounds like the extended slide release was incorrectly installed, breaking the spring; then you also incorrectly installed the original. Wouldn't be surprised if the second spring is either broken or bent.
The locking block pin should be installed first. Then the trigger pin should be installed, right-to-left, wiggling the slide stop lever forward and backward, making SURE that the slide lock spring is correctly placed UNDER the locking block pin.
Gary G23
05-26-2002, 16:11
IMO this is the "achilles heel" of Glock pistol design. I have seen this problem many times with 40 and 357 Glocks. And yes, I do know how to install a slide release lever. The only way to fix it for good is to cut enough material off the slide release lever to keep it from locking even with an empty mag.
ipscshooter
05-26-2002, 16:34
My first guess would be what has already been said. Improper installation of the slide stop.
However, you wrote that after you switched back to carry ammo the problem went away. I would suggest making sure the gun is empty and removing the slide. Take a mag and load it with a few rounds of the problem ammo. Then stick the mag into the reciever and see if the bullet or case hits the tab on the slide stop. Could be the ammo is not suited for your model gun.
Shoot safe
ipscshooter
I've been shooting several different Glocks (9mm,.40,.45) for a couple years and have never seen this happen unless the slide stop was incorrectly installed.
Heed WalterGA's advice.
Fireglock
05-27-2002, 06:05
It could also be a case of magic thumb. It's especially prevalent with the extended lever.
Fireglock
05-27-2002, 06:09
Originally posted by Gary G23
IMO this is the "achilles heel" of Glock pistol design. I have seen this problem many times with 40 and 357 Glocks. And yes, I do know how to install a slide release lever. The only way to fix it for good is to cut enough material off the slide release lever to keep it from locking even with an empty mag.
How about knowing the proper technique, wouldn't that be the best fix? If people are going to experiment then they will learn, the hard way.
Gary G23
05-27-2002, 08:13
Originally posted by Fireglock
How about knowing the proper technique, wouldn't that be the best fix? If people are going to experiment then they will learn, the hard way.
I remember reading an article written by Walt Rausch in one of the gun magazines where he was testing the G35 and had the exact same problem. I guess he doesn't know how to operate a Glock correctly either, right?
Fireglock
05-27-2002, 08:21
Originally posted by Gary G23
I remember reading an article written by Walt Rausch in one of the gun magazines where he was testing the G35 and had the exact same problem. I guess he doesn't know how to operate a Glock correctly either, right?
If he put the firearm together wrong I guess he didn't. The only way to screw this up is to take your Glock down past a field strip. Since he had the problem maybe he didn't know how to put it back together correctly either. :rolleyes: Grinding on your gun was your idea, learning what to do it right is mine. Sorry if that doesn't make sense to you.
Glock parts require no grinding. Parts damaged or bent due to reassembly technique should be replaced. I have owned a G22, G23, G24C and G27. I have also owned a G17, G17L, G19, G21, G26, G30 and G34 and have never experienced the above referenced problem. Proper assembly techinque insures proper functioning. I've seen folks use a hammer and punch to drive out the trigger pin, resulting in a bent slide stop lever. Is it the fault of the pistol or the part? No!
A lot of advice is offered here on Glocktalk. Some of it is good, some is not so good. It's up to the reader to make an intelligent assessment. I have been a Certified Glock Armorer for nearly two years, and in that time I've had to undo many mistakes made by others. When in doubt, take your pistol to a Certified Glock Armorer. The service is normally free. I've yet to charge anyone for my services.
Michigun
05-28-2002, 03:34
Here's a test to find out whether premature "slide lock" is shooter induced or not...
Purchase another $2 factory slide catch, grind it or the original's "thumb plate" down. (I defined the "thumb plate" as the section of the "slide catch" that extends out of the frame.) This will give you a "slide catch" that can't be engaged by anything but the magazine's follower. If the slide doesn't lock back until the mag is empty with the same ammo it did it with before, I'd say shooter induced.
However, because of the info provided in the original post, I think this may be ammo related or what has been covered already about the incorrect installation of the slide catch.
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