View Full Version : Sell me on the .357 Sig over a 10 or a .40....
I'm leaning toward a G32 but I can get a smokin' deal on a G23. Sell me, oh wise shooters of speedy projectiles :)
Jack
Love my 30 but I want more toys!
HydraShok
05-27-2002, 04:41
Good news, with a barrel swap, you can shoot a .357 in a .40 or vice versa.
Yup!
Get G23 and a .357 and 9mm barrel from Lone Wolf.;f
Then get a G29!!
And a .357 and .40 barrel.;a
gotta gk-29 we fell in love & married,got the 357 conv/barrel & am
happier then a pig in s_ _ t.;f
Can you convert a 29 to .40 and 357SIG????
If you can, it looks like a 29 will be my next purchase.
Is it just a barrel swap, or barrel and springs, or barrel, springs, and slide??
It seems like you would need a lighter spring for the 10mm to .40 conversion. Do you?
Looks like I'm answering my own question.
http://www.glock-1.com/glock_parts_accessories.htm
Go to the barrels section, and it tells you which aftermarket barrels fit which models.
G20, G29 will convert to 357SIG, and .40!!
WHY would I want to shoot .357 Sig over the other calibers? I want real world experiences from you guys if you please.
Jack
Doubt anyone here has shot anyone with a .357 Sig.
The sig shoots flatter than a ten or forty. (Trajectory)
It has less velocity deviation than either 10 or 40.
(Due to bottleneck design, velocity range, and mid to fast burning powders.)
It's modeled after the legendary 125 grain load in a 4" 357 mag revolver.
Bottle-neck cases are inherantly more accurate, and feed more reliably than tapered, or straight-sided cases.
It was designed to retain more velocity with the same barrel length.
Really, the 357SIG converts to a .40 more easily than a 40 to a .357
Also, the 10 converts to both, but in most cases, the 357 SIG does not convert to a 10mm.
The 357SIG beats the 40 in almost every category, except in heavy bullets.
If you're gonna do heavy bullets, you might as well get the ten.
10mm., 357SIG, they're both excellent choices.
The 40 is not the worst round in the world, either.
You just gotta love having such tough choices.
;a
Thanks Caz.... That was the kind of info I was looking for.
I love my .45 but I wanted something different to play with and I think the .357 may be the choice. So if I want the best of all worlds get a 20 or a 29 and lots if extra parts?
Jack
My two favorite calibers are .357 Sig and 10mm. This doesn't mean that I hate the others, such as 9mm, .40 Auto, and .45 Auto. I have plenty of pistols in those calibers, and like them very much. The .357 Sig has the advantage that it can be used in a smaller frame, which typically means smaller and thinner. My favorite Glock is the G20, and I have the .357 Sig and .40 Auto conversion barrels for it. If I want small, the G33 gets the thumbs-up, and I have a factory G27 barrel for it, along with a 9mm conversion barrel. However, I tend to shoot 10mm through my G20, and .357 Sig through my G33 about 99% of the time. I also have a .357 Sig barrel for my G35, which is a setup that I like a lot. So many choices, so little time...
Also, one of my favorite non-Glock .357 Sig pistols is the Sig P239. Dimensionally, it is comparable to the single-stack HK P7s (P7 PSP or P7M8). Nice little gun, and chambered in the potent .357 Sig.
My next gun is prolly either a G29 + .357SIG, 40S&W barrels or a 5-shot custom line-bored revolver in .41 GNR, with an extra cylinder in .41 mag.
The G29+ parts is a LOT cheaper.
G30Jack, it may interest you to research .400 cor-bon.
It's usually a drop-in barrel replacement for a .45 acp, and falls squarely between 10mm and 357SIG in power and weight.
It comes really, really close to 10mm' power and in light bullets (135's)-matches the 357 sigs velocity.
It's a .45 auto bottle-necked to .40, so the bullet is the same diameter as the 10mm, and .45 acp mags work.
It's usually $200.00 for a barrel from bar-sto, or etc.
check out cor-bon's page for info.
http://www.cor-bon.com/400.html
If you have a tough time deciding between 10mm, .40s&W, and 357SIG, and already have a .45 this may be the way to go.
YMMV.
The pressure of the .357 SIG, 40,000 PSI, puts it into the magnum category.
Accurate Arms Loading Guide, Number Two,states that "the 357 SIG cartridge is without a doubt the most ballistically efficient pistol caliber we have ever tested with a consistent and amazingly low standard deviation".
The April 1996 issue of Handguns has an excellent article about the FBI testing the .357 SIG. The article states that both the .357 SIG and the .40 S&W beat the 9mm by a wide margin, as well as having very similar exterior ballistics out to 100 yards.
The author said the results show that the .357 SIG has about the same energy of a 155 grain .40 S&W round, along with the penetration capacity of a 180 grain .40 S&W hydra-shok. He went on to say "For the shooter who wants it all (high energy, flat trajectory, high velocity, extreme accuracy, high firepower and deep penetration) in a single cartridge that fits in a cancelable, shootable handgun, the .357 SIG is just the ticket."
I rest my case!!!;f
I decided to get a G32 from a GT member and be done with it.
I'll look into the .400 CorBon as well to give me something different.
I can't wait to get the .357 and use it on pins... Should be really funny.
Jack
Originally posted by G30Jack
I decided to get a G32 from a GT member and be done with it...
You won't regret it. I've fallen in love with mine and won't part with it, until the plant me!!
Originally posted by G33
Doubt anyone here has shot anyone with a .357 Sig.
does a 45lb groundhog count? it was bloody and gorey. splat!
OK, same as shooting the guy in Willow.;b
kidcoltoutlaw
06-17-2002, 01:56
the first shot ripped it's gutts out.the second shot almost popped the eye from the skull.it was sticking out about 3/4 or an inch.the groundhog is tuff.i have hit them with a 22-250 and had blood everywhere and they still made it to the whole.even left gutts all over the place and liver yet they got to the whole.this hog never even went 6 inches from where it was hit.first shot took out the gutts and spine.i think it will be a man stopper.rem. 125 saber.the only bad thing about this bullet is when you unload you gun then load it back the bullet will go from 1.125 to 1.15 it will minus each time.so be carefull with the bullet setback thing,thanks,keith
Dead Man's Hand
06-17-2002, 08:26
Personally I'd go with the G32. Mainly because the fully supported chamber on a .357 is less likely to KB than the .40 barrel which is not fully supported. With the high pressures of both the .40 and .357, fully supported barrels are safer then non-fully supported. Then go buy a Bar-Sto or Federal barrel to convert you G32 to shoot .40 and you have much better case support than what the stock Glock .40 barrel offers.
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