Grip plug

[seangatt]

Hi guys which have the best fit and were i can buy some Thanks

[danielsand]

I use Jentra. Search the web. MANY outlets to choose from.

[Alliance50]

Hi
Speaking of grip plugs does anyone know where or if you can get them for the 21SF yet?:rofl::dunno:

[Agent6-3/8]

What's the purpose of a grip plug?

[Bowtie]

To plug the Grip...Whats the purpose of the hole?

[Kilroy]

What's the purpose of a grip plug?

It's a transfer device.

Transfers your funds into someone else's pocket.

Product itself has dubious utility and certainly reduces the ability to forcefully rip a magazine out of the magazine well.

[PAGLOCK23]

I like the Lone Wolf plug.

[Fallguy173]

It keeps the lint out of the gun. That stuff plays hell on the insides.:rofl:

[Onmilo]

Why would you need top forcefully rip the magazine out of the pistol??!!
If things are that goofed up I'm going for my #2 gun,,,,,,,,

I like and use the Nowlin lanyard loop plugs.

[Bowtie]

It's a transfer device.

Transfers your funds into someone else's pocket.

Product itself has dubious utility and certainly reduces the ability to forcefully rip a magazine out of the magazine well.

Never made sense to me.Its not like Glocks have flush mount mags. If you cant grip a Glocks base plate and pull it out then that hole in the backstraps not going to help either.The base has a lip and the rear of the mag is smooth so hows that help?

[ecmills]

I run them in my guns because I stopped hanging up on the web in the backstrap during speed-loads. But that's a competitive reason. Don't really care too much about lint.

The glockmeister/deep6comp plug is the best. Fits flush in both a fullsize and a compact, and rounds over smoothly into the magwell - no sharp corner. The pearce and jentras are OK, but either stick out a good bit, aren't *quite* flush, or have a nice sharp corne at their forward edge, where they merge into the magwell.

[THEFROZENTUNDRA]

I have the Jentra plugs in all my Glocks. No problems so far and perfect fit.

[bravo-05]

LWD on ebay.

[ALL GLOCK]

Hi guys which have the best fit and were i can buy some Thanks

None........I wouldnt use one if you gave it to me.
The space behind the mag and backstrap is there for a reason..............:upeyes:

[Skintop911]

Why would you need top forcefully rip the magazine out of the pistol??!!
If things are that goofed up I'm going for my #2 gun,,,,,,,,

This assumes that people will be carrying a BUG.

If carrying a BUG, clearing the stoppage may be faster than drawing the BUG, depending on the location.

Given the choices some make in BUGs, it might also be better to clear the stoppage.

I like and use the Nowlin lanyard loop plugs.

Enjoy.

Never made sense to me.Its not like Glocks have flush mount mags. If you cant grip a Glocks base plate and pull it out then that hole in the backstraps not going to help either.The base has a lip and the rear of the mag is smooth so hows that help?

The relief cut on the back of the mag well does indeed help. As did the relief cut on the frontstrap, until the gun buying (as opposed to gun shooting and gun fighting) public called for aesthetic improvement.

Try stripping that mag with wet, sweaty, or bloody hands, under stress or time, with and without the plug.

[Thx-1138]

I have serious lint buildup issues under my trigger bar in my carry glocks. If a plug is going to help minimize that, it's worth it. If you need more gripping room to pull a mag out, run with mag extensions so you have something firm to grip.

[Skintop911]

I have serious lint buildup issues under my trigger bar in my carry glocks. If a plug is going to help minimize that, it's worth it.

I found the following PM procedure to effectively resolve the lint build up issue in guns prone to the accumulation of debris in the backstrap channel:

Exhale through pursed lips into the channel. Repeat as needed.

[Bowtie]

The front cut out made sense.The front of the mag base has a lip to grab but the rear does not.Thats why it makes more sense to grab the base of the mag from the sides IMHO.

[Bowtie]

None........I wouldnt use one if you gave it to me.
The space behind the mag and backstrap is there for a reason..............:upeyes:

Ok Roll eyes whats your reason?

[Skintop911]

The front cut out made sense.The front of the mag base has a lip to grab but the rear does not.Thats why it makes more sense to grab the base of the mag from the sides IMHO.

One of the aftermarket "improvements" with a bit of utility is the relief cuts on the side panels for that side grasp. Same, for a cut on the front of the FG/Rs.

[Bowtie]

Thats true..

[Fallguy173]

Ok Roll eyes whats your reason?

Keeping spare change?:whistling:

[alex_velociti]

anyone have picture of a glock with a grip plug? I would like to see so i can form my own opinion

[kingclassic]

To plug the Grip...Whats the purpose of the hole?

On Glocks website they show an optional lock installed in that hole.

[Richard_A]

here you go http://glockparts.com (http://glockparts.com/store/item/nxou/Plugs/Deep_6_Comp_Grip_Frame_Insert.html) $6.00 plus $3.00 shipping , fits nice and flush http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/grinpimp.gif

[FourtyFive]

I agree with ecmills on both counts. Having the rim of a case hang up on the back of your magwell is no fun during a match, and I imagine it would be less fun on the street. I only leave them off GLOCKs shot in production. If you choose to go with a plug...go with glockmeister.

[Bladerunner747]

Jentra.

[W30]

I like Glockmeister...

http://216.145.104.142/images/misc/guns/GLOCKMEISTER.JPG

[seangatt]

I think it depends on the model .Because let say the g34 or g17 the full size models have an opening on the front of the mag to help u pull the mag out.In case of emergency

[danielsand]

I'd REALLY like a little elaboration on the "emergency" in which ANY ONE of you was forced to rip the mag out of the grip using the hole in the back strap.

I carried G17 through snow, rain, mud, sleet and some REALLY nasty situations. Once I was barely able to remove the FP safety, it was so clogged with mud. And you guessed it right, the mud came through the "vent hole" behind the mag!
Since that time (about 14 years ago), I'm plugging mine. The ONLY reason that hole is there, is for Glock to save money on polymer. There are no mysterious "vapors" to travel through, and no need to rip the mag out. At least I never encountered them in combat.

So please, describe the situation when you had to rip your mag out, and you couldn't do it by ANY means, but to stick your finger in that hole.

I am NOT saying that everybody should plug it because I do, God forbid. Just say you don't like the plugs, and you prefer holes (nothing wrong with that thinking! :whistling:). Just quit repeating the mantra that the hole is there for "venting" and "emergency mag removal".

[zeke013]

I'd REALLY like a little elaboration on the "emergency" in which ANY ONE of you was forced to rip the mag out of the grip using the hole in the back strap.

I carried G17 through snow, rain, mud, sleet and some REALLY nasty situations. Once I was barely able to remove the FP safety, it was so clogged with mud. And you guessed it right, the mud came through the "vent hole" behind the mag!
Since that time (about 14 years ago), I'm plugging mine. The ONLY reason that hole is there, is for Glock to save money on polymer. There are no mysterious "vapors" to travel through, and no need to rip the mag out. At least I never encountered them in combat.

So please, describe the situation when you had to rip your mag out, and you couldn't do it by ANY means, but to stick your finger in that hole.

I am NOT saying that everybody should plug it because I do, God forbid. Just say you don't like the plugs, and you prefer holes (nothing wrong with that thinking! :whistling:). Just quit repeating the mantra that the hole is there for "venting" and "emergency mag removal".


Happened to me. During a three-day tactical handgun course at Thunder Ranch during a summer heat wave. Mag release wouldn't drop the mag a millimeter. Don't know if it was the heat, the frangible ammo or general operator incompetence. But since the mag release wouldn't budge the "drop-free" mag, I ended up having to hit the release as I was grasping at the bottom of the mag during a tactical reload drill. And the darn thing wouldn't budge. Again, could have been the heat (sweaty fingers) or something more sinister - but the only thing that saved me was adjusting my grip and sticking my thumb into the channel to get purchase on the mag.

And out it came.

That taught me all I needed to know about the purpose of the channel - and the utility of a plug.

My only gun that had a plug had some minor surgery when I returned home - to remove it.

[zeke013]

But, like danielsand noted - just because I feel more comfortable without a plug doesn't mean you shouldn't get one.

It's your gun - do with it as you see fit.

[Skintop911]

I'd REALLY like a little elaboration on the "emergency" in which ANY ONE of you was forced to rip the mag out of the grip using the hole in the back strap...So please, describe the situation when you had to rip your mag out, and you couldn't do it by ANY means, but to stick your finger in that hole...Just quit repeating the mantra that the hole is there for "venting" and "emergency mag removal".

Certainly.

Numerous occasions while gloved, the relief cuts provided extra purchase on the magazine under debris or stoppage conditions.

Numerous occasions with various states of injury to the hands and fingers, where the relief cuts provided extra purchase on the magazine under debris or stoppage conditions.

Experienced, and observed.

Having some extra drainage and an exit port for gunk has been handy on various watercraft and off-road vehicles, too.

Alas, most folks are gun buyers and gun owners, not gun shooters or gunfighters. They guy shooting a box or two now and then isn't likely to be found practicing stoppage clearance, especially under any intensive conditions.

[omega48038]

The hole in the grip is there for one simple reason, to maintain uniform wall thickness throughout the part. The number one rule in designing an injection molded part is to keep the thickness consistent. If that large volume behind the mag well were left solid, it would cool much slower than the rest of the part, causing die sinks and setting up internal stresses.


As far as plugging the hole, I'd say it's 50/50, if it lets dirt out, it also lets dirt in.

[aaronrkelly]

I have serious lint buildup issues under my trigger bar in my carry glocks. If a plug is going to help minimize that, it's worth it. If you need more gripping room to pull a mag out, run with mag extensions so you have something firm to grip.

I run the plug and still have lint buildup....pretty bad.

Its just part of actually carrying a gun....aint gonna hurt anything.

[FastJuice]

I have grip plugs in all my GLOCKs, because I can. I have them because I like them. Im not worried about spending the $5 on a plug. If a few bucks was that important to me, I would have bought one Hi-Point instead of 6 GLOCKs. Not to mention the dozens of other guns. Not spending 5 bucks because it isn't really needed is the stupidest argument against one, to date. The gun just plain freakin' looks better without a hole in the grip, than it does with one. Thats all the reason I need.

[douglasd]

None........I wouldnt use one if you gave it to me.
The space behind the mag and backstrap is there for a reason..............:upeyes:

And just what is that reason??

[Judgemax]

Glock

[douglasd]

The only reason not to have a plug is if you want to use a lanyard. That's what the space and the hole in the back of the grip is for. (No, it's not there just for the little bump on the grip plug). But if you're not going to use a lanyard, there's no reason you shouldn't plug the hole with a grip plug. I like the ones from Jentra or Glockmeister. I don't like the "slug plug", but then, I don't shoot competition.

PS: There's also no reason to plug the hole if you don't like it. I personally think it makes the grip a bit less fragile if you happen to drop the gun on the grip...with the plug, I don't think it would crack the grip as easily.

[Judgemax]

Glock

[douglasd]

Does anyone use a lanyard for CCW? I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but I'd worry about the cord getting hung up on something.

Usually they only use them in combat...so you don't lose your weapon.

[Judgemax]

Glock

[Fallguy173]

Inly ones I have seen use lanyards, are the MPs. They were issued them, I think. Most would be to cheap to buy them on their own. I don't remember seeing them in combat though. Don't know why.:dunno:

I have the plug in my 22, and will likely get one for the 21SF. Looks,(cleaner lines) and keeping big chunks of dirt out are my main reasons.

[aaronrkelly]

I don't see any lanyards in use in the combat photos I've seen, but maybe I havn't been paying attention. Anyone "in combat service" have experience in this regard??

http://www.wolverineqtg.com/images/dsc011.jpg

[pangris]

To plug the Grip...Whats the purpose of the hole?

That is the question...

it allows crap to drain out of the action, and give you a place to grip the mag to strip it in a type three malfuction.

Before I got some learning, I had all my Glocks plugged. Now , none of them are -

Funny thing, they all work just fine...

As noted, a lanyard is the only thing I'd put in the hole, and you still don't have to plug it - it already has a lanyard point. That said, I wouln't use a lanyard unless I was in an OWB carry situation, in which case I'd have a 1911 :^0

[pangris]

Just quit repeating the mantra that the hole is there for "venting" and "emergency mag removal".


Um, no. If you have a double feed or a stuck case, the fastest way to clear it is to rip the mag out, using the hole.

[Bill1954]

I have all of my Glocks plugged simply because it looks incomplete without the plug. If I were living outside in a wet swampy or sandy area, I may just take the plugs out. Maybe not.:dunno:

[douglasd]

Before I got some learning, I had all my Glocks plugged. Now , none of them are

:upeyes:

[pangris]

:upeyes:

Well thought out response. :upeyes:

[douglasd]

Well thought out response. :upeyes:

Yeah...about as much as your "Before I got some learning"...:upeyes:

[W30]

My finger points...

[Kilroy]

Before I got some learning, I had all my Glocks plugged. Now , none of them are -

Funny thing, they all work just fine...
:^0

Well, that strikes to the heart of the matter. Some knowledge based on training and/or experience is a wonderful thing. Absent that, it's just opinion and conjecture.

A serious users course, the Glock IW for instance, will make one appreciate the utility of not plugging the hole.

Serious shooters and training practitioners buy knowledge and training to improve their ability. Accessories (transfer devices) provide little of that.

[pangris]

Yeah...about as much as your "Before I got some learning"...:upeyes:

Pardon a poor attempt at some humor.

Before I spent the past six years on a quest to master the defensive use of the pistol, I plugged my Glocks.

After 15+ training classes, I unplugged them. My reason was that in every single class, I was instructed to rip the magazine out if I had a type 3 malf. The method by which I remove the magazine is positoning my thumb behind the mag, in such a what that the plug would prevent that from happening.

So, based on that, and the fact my guns have worked just fine for 25,000+ rounds without the plugs - I don't think they are necessary, and IF YOU KNOW HOW TO RUN THE GUN, it might even be a problem.

That is all.

[Bowtie]

Well I just tried using the backstrap hole to grasp the mag.As stated before you can get a better grip from the side.Try it yourself. With your thumb in the hole you cant grip the front of the mag for **** because it creates a bad angle causing your finger to slip off the front of the mag. From the side I can get a good enough grip to where it sounds like I'm about to brake something.

[douglasd]

After 15+ training classes...

It took that many classes to get it to sink in?? :supergrin:

Just kidding. I know there's no such thing as too much training. In fact, if I can ever come up with the money, I'd like to go somewhere like Thunder Ranch, Gunsite, or Valhalla. It's not cheap, though.

What you say makes sense. Maybe I'll have to re-think my "plug position".

I am going to be getting a G21SF soon, and as of yet they don't make a plug for that that I know of. So that one will remain unplugged, at least for a while.

[Bowtie]

I barley got my thumb in a 19 so your going to need pretty small thumbs to get them in an SF model.

[pangris]

It took that many classes to get it to sink in?? :supergrin:


I'm a slow learner, but that isn't uncommon around here.

[Skintop911]

After plugging my 23 and using a small file to make all the edges flush for smooth mag changes, I did the H&K thing by cutting half-moons out on the bottom sides of the grip to allow mag snatches if it ever gets hung up. Then I cut a small slot in the bottom of the plug (perpendicular to the bore axis) to allow for water drainage and a pressure relief hole in the event of a kaboom.

I'd like to see some pictures of your mods, if you have them.

[Judgemax]

Glock

[Bowtie]

I'm a slow learner, but that isn't uncommon around here.

Wow! good shot.

[pangris]

Thanks, folks, I'll be here all week...

[Mervyn_b]

Hi guys which have the best fit and were i can buy some Thanks


I've got a Tac Rac's Armorer's Tool (http://www.gunaccessories.com/GlockAccessories/ArmorersTool/index.asp) installed in my G34.

That way, I will have all the tools necessary to detail-strip the gun & adjust the rear sight (since the G34 is fitted w/ adjustable rear sights) - everything packed inside the backstrap. :cool:

[Guapo2006]

Glockmeister carries a BCI for the 21SF. I think its made by Scherer.

[douglasd]

Glockmeister carries a BCI for the 21SF. I think its made by Scherer.

Thanks...I'll check it out.

[Guapo2006]

Give them a call.
They are a new item.


888-GLOCK-ME (456-2563)

[kenlew]

The lead plug seems to help reduce recoil (especially helpful for competition guns).

[krl45]

I'm not going to argue with anyone that does not like the plugs. One fellow said that you learn from experience and everyone here talks about the gunfight they will be in. I saw a glock that would not even fire the round in the chamber from sand that was forced up the grip when one of our officers got into a fight with a suspect. I don't know how many of you are actually envolved in law enforcement, but rolling around on the ground with a suspect is a more common thing than having a FTF/FTE in your glock pistol, and sometimes you only need one shot to save your live, I've seen this in one of our departments shooting incidents, so every one that wants one gets one in our department. Sitting in your livingroom or shooting on the range is a great place to perpare for the real world of fighting for your life.:shocked:

[drcohen]

Jentra is the best.

Bestdefense.com

[Picketeer]

Who sells the OD color ones?

[desertfox]

check in the Gun Parts & Accessories forum for the OD plugs........:supergrin:

[Yelf]

Got the Glockmeister/Deep Comp 6 from glockparts.com and they were fast and efficient. Deep Comp6 is perfect fit.

Tried ordering from OMB's Express Police Supply and they backordered and cancelled things without notice, sent me 1 mag for $6.50 shipping, big waste.

[Picketeer]

None........I wouldnt use one if you gave it to me.
The space behind the mag and backstrap is there for a reason..............:upeyes:


Too Bad, I was gonna give you a couple! And by the way,
what is the reason?............I have not heard a reason for the space yet!

[Judgemax]

WARNING -- the Glockmeister grip plug does not fit the 30SF as they claim on their web site!!