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DontSaveHer
02-21-2008, 11:23
I recently obtained my Gem-Tech Outback II .22lr "silencer" and was wondering the best ways to clean it to get the longest service life. I originally wanted a Tactical Innovations Inc. TAC65 because they are only 199.99 instead of 300.00 + and you can unscrew the end caps to clean them really good. I wanted a cheaper can for my first .22lr suppressor because i have 5-10 pistols/rifles that it would work on and would be seeing allot of use,millions of rounds, screwing on and off, and getting tracked threw the brushy woods of MS and scuffed up.
My Class 2 Manufacturer FFL, who looks like Ted Nugent, is a GemTech dealer and had some kind of trouble with TacInov. and blatantly told me that he would only make 50 bucks off there can and would rather make me one.
In the end the OutbackII is really nice with titanium threads so they won't wear out as fast. The only problem is you cant take it apart to clean it. GemTechs website says that all suppressors that aren't designed to drain free from all liquids after cleaning are able to partially or fully disassembled to clean out the rest of the "sludge" after dunking in WD40,MineralSprits,Or Laquer Thinner.
The OutBackII manual tries to say that contrary to popular believe ,suppressors have a longer life if no attempt is made at cleaning and that a certain amount of carbon residue will enhance performance. It also says that the design of it is that any liquid introduced into the suppressor for cleaning MAY NOT drain completely and its presence will generate MORE sludge and residue than not cleaning at all. It is not able to be taken apart to cleaned either. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me as is says you can use a little oil to make it more silent.
The manual recommends blowing out each end with an air compressor and if you feal compelled to dunk clean it then use WD40,MineralSprits,Or Laquer Thinner.
My dealer recommended 50/50 ATF fluid and mineral spirits and i am considering purchasing an Ultrasonic cleaner that vibrates the liquid to loosen up the carbon. The only problem is all this would do it is help get rid of the unburnt gun powder and carbon residue,and wouldn't help much for the lead build up.
I would prefer to shoot brass washed ammo but most all decent priced non hollow point standard and subsonic ammo is wax coated lead.
USMCsilver
02-21-2008, 19:02
Honestly, I'd just use a whole can of non-CFC brake parts cleaner.
Spray, then blow out with a compressor. Keep doing this until both "cans" are empty.
Brake parts cleaner eats EVERYTHING bad that builds up in a gun. It also evaporates.
Just test it somewhere to make sure it doesn't bother the finish.
I recently obtained my Gem-Tech Outback II .22lr "silencer" and was wondering the best ways to clean it to get the longest service life. I originally wanted a Tactical Innovations Inc. TAC65 because they are only 199.99 instead of 300.00 + and you can unscrew the end caps to clean them really good. I wanted a cheaper can for my first .22lr suppressor because i have 5-10 pistols/rifles that it would work on and would be seeing allot of use,millions of rounds, screwing on and off, and getting tracked threw the brushy woods of MS and scuffed up.
My Class 2 Manufacturer FFL, who looks like Ted Nugent, is a GemTech dealer and had some kind of trouble with TacInov. and blatantly told me that he would only make 50 bucks off there can and would rather make me one.
In the end the OutbackII is really nice with titanium threads so they won't wear out as fast. The only problem is you cant take it apart to clean it. GemTechs website says that all suppressors that aren't designed to drain free from all liquids after cleaning are able to partially or fully disassembled to clean out the rest of the "sludge" after dunking in WD40,MineralSprits,Or Laquer Thinner.
The OutBackII manual tries to say that contrary to popular believe ,suppressors have a longer life if no attempt is made at cleaning and that a certain amount of carbon residue will enhance performance. It also says that the design of it is that any liquid introduced into the suppressor for cleaning MAY NOT drain completely and its presence will generate MORE sludge and residue than not cleaning at all. It is not able to be taken apart to cleaned either. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me as is says you can use a little oil to make it more silent.
The manual recommends blowing out each end with an air compressor and if you feal compelled to dunk clean it then use WD40,MineralSprits,Or Laquer Thinner.
My dealer recommended 50/50 ATF fluid and mineral spirits and i am considering purchasing an Ultrasonic cleaner that vibrates the liquid to loosen up the carbon. The only problem is all this would do it is help get rid of the unburnt gun powder and carbon residue,and wouldn't help much for the lead build up.
I would prefer to shoot brass washed ammo but most all decent priced non hollow point standard and subsonic ammo is wax coated lead.
Your making a mtn out of a .22 can bro. Soak it in mineral spirits for 10-15min, then use a small brush to clean the threads off.
Apply some MILTECH to the threads and put it away.
Done.:supergrin:
I have the Vortex2 ( same as the outback 2 just SS) I've put 10,000 rounds through it I'm guessing over the years and it still works fine. All I do is soak it a few minutes, clean the threads and let the mineral spirits evaporate.
If it ever stops working, send it back to gemtech and they will fix it, most likely for free.
DontSaveHer
02-21-2008, 22:06
Is there any around the house or home depo stuff i could use intead of the expensive suppressor oil to make it quieter . Maby some non flammable WD40, ATF fluid, ect.
James Cox
02-21-2008, 22:08
Is there any around the house or home depo stuff i could use intead of the expensive suppressor oil to make it quieter . Maby some non flammable WD40, ATF fluid, ect.
I know a guy that uses beer.
Is there any around the house or home depo stuff i could use intead of the expensive suppressor oil to make it quieter . Maby some non flammable WD40, ATF fluid, ect.
Mineral spirits will cost you a few dollars for a gallon bro.
UZIFORME
02-21-2008, 22:49
Ultrasonic cleaners damage aluminum, repeated oilings and shootings wet will clog it up faster, follow Gemtech's reccomendations if you ever want them to service it if it does go bad. The best thing you can do is leave it alone and not worry about it.
Ultrasonic cleaners damage aluminum, repeated oilings and shootings wet will clog it up faster, follow Gemtech's reccomendations if you ever want them to service it if it does go bad. The best thing you can do is leave it alone and not worry about it.
Yep. I rarely put anything in my can. It's plenty quiet dry.
DontSaveHer
02-22-2008, 02:44
Mine is plenty quiet too but i was just considering using a small amount to reduce the first round pop and to make it whisper quiet when hunting squirrels or varmint as not to scare off the others. I figured a little oil would help keep it cooler preventing hot lead mist and carbon from sticking to the oiled baffles as bad and if cleaned every 500-1000 rounds would come off easier.
I didn't know ultra sonic damaged aluminum as they use them to clean sensitive jewelry but i do know watter based solvents such as in hoppess cleaner or that simple green or mean grean stuff will damage aluminum.
Mine is plenty quiet too but i was just considering using a small amount to reduce the first round pop and to make it whisper quiet when hunting squirrels or varmint as not to scare off the others. I figured a little oil would help keep it cooler preventing hot lead mist and carbon from sticking to the oiled baffles as bad and if cleaned every 500-1000 rounds would come off easier.
I didn't know ultra sonic damaged aluminum as they use them to clean sensitive jewelry but i do know watter based solvents such as in hoppess cleaner or that simple green or mean grean stuff will damage aluminum.
I put a couple drops of CLP in mine on occasion. It did make a difference however it wont keep the critters from hearing it. They can hear you walking and would still hear the gun discharge either way.
CaptToyota
02-22-2008, 20:22
Is there any around the house or home depo stuff i could use intead of the expensive suppressor oil to make it quieter . Maby some non flammable WD40, ATF fluid, ect.
WD-40 is extremely flammable, so is oil when super heated.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/capttoyota/WayneB.jpg
Most people use Gel to make their cans quiet. The same gel that is used for ultrasounds. You can buy a gallon of it for approx ~$30. And a tiny bit in the end of the can will usually last around 40-50 shots (depending how hot you get it).
:)
Most people use Gel to make their cans quiet. The same gel that is used for ultrasounds. You can buy a gallon of it for approx ~$30. And a tiny bit in the end of the can will usually last around 40-50 shots (depending how hot you get it).
:)
Man what a mess. :)
I'd rather put some diet coke in there like wayne is doing in the photo. :supergrin:
CaptToyota
02-23-2008, 16:28
Man what a mess. :)
I'd rather put some diet coke in there like wayne is doing in the photo. :supergrin:
What is it, 2 liter of soda pop on sale for $0.99, buy 1, get 1 free ? :whistling:
DontSaveHer
02-23-2008, 19:13
I think that medical gel stuff is watter based. I don't want to put anything watter based in my can as it will corrode the aluminum.
MatGlock
02-28-2008, 17:17
If you pour anything in your can, pour it in the can (Not down the barrel.) Lots of people use wire-pulling gel. I bought some the other day, but have not had a chance to try it.
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