View Full Version : Firearms policy for Ford offices in dearborn?
steveksux
02-21-2008, 17:19
Anybody work there? I'm sure no carry at work, wondering if the parking lots/vehicles are off limits too... Thinking about applying for a job there. Thinking about NOT applying too... depending on the answer... :supergrin:
Thanks
Tallbear
02-22-2008, 04:48
Ford "general" policy is no guns on property. "Termination" is a possibility if caught. I know a lot of guys that have there hunting "stuff" in the vehicle during season.
I once witnessed a guy leaving after hours during the week last year who was stopped at the security gate. They checked his trunk and there was a soft rifle case. Needless to say I waited behind them for what seemed like an hour as other security arrived and had words with the guy. I'm sure they reported this to upper management and certainly the guy had to visit Legal.
I have heard that there is a "selective" 15% reduction in White Collar positions. I was lucky enough to ask for a Volunteer Separation Package and received it. This time around there is no "Package" so tensions will be very high. I pray that there are no incidents, but people are close to desperation (cannot sell home, pension funds dwindling, dollar collapsing, no jobs)... STAY SAFE, no matter what you choose to do. If you have to use it you're fired. But if you use it to save your life then good on you.
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steveksux
03-31-2008, 00:35
I once witnessed a guy leaving after hours during the week last year who was stopped at the security gate. They checked his trunk and there was a soft rifle case. Needless to say I waited behind them for what seemed like an hour as other security arrived and had words with the guy. I'm sure they reported this to upper management and certainly the guy had to visit Legal.
I have heard that there is a "selective" 15% reduction in White Collar positions. I was lucky enough to ask for a Volunteer Separation Package and received it. This time around there is no "Package" so tensions will be very high. I pray that there are no incidents, but people are close to desperation (cannot sell home, pension funds dwindling, dollar collapsing, no jobs)... STAY SAFE, no matter what you choose to do. If you have to use it you're fired. But if you use it to save your life then good on you.Problem is, in that situation, having it in the car does you no good. It'd have to be on your person. That greatly exaggerates your risk of being discovered. Do you know if the guy got fired in the end? Wonder if there's any leeway, or anyone caught with a weapon in the car is out. I'm a contractor, much easier to let go than an employee I imagine.
I knew someone that got fired for having a weapon at work at another company (not in the car, in the office). He had to move to another state to find work. Seems "the well had been poisoned" as he put it in Michigan. If the new employer chooses to call the old one, the response is going to raise red flags just by the way they say "nothing". Depending on what industry you're in, it may not just be the one job you're losing. Something else to factor into the decision. Really ups the downside to getting caught, affects how you balance the risks to figure out what you're going to do. Rumor is he dropped it when taking a dump, the guy in the next stall saw it, eventually security identified him by his boots... So I suppose non descript footwear would be a good recommendation.
Randy
Problem is, in that situation, having it in the car does you no good. It'd have to be on your person. That greatly exaggerates your risk of being discovered. Do you know if the guy got fired in the end? Wonder if there's any leeway, or anyone caught with a weapon in the car is out. I'm a contractor, much easier to let go than an employee I imagine.
I knew someone that got fired for having a weapon at work at another company (not in the car, in the office). He had to move to another state to find work. Seems "the well had been poisoned" as he put it in Michigan. If the new employer chooses to call the old one, the response is going to raise red flags just by the way they say "nothing". Depending on what industry you're in, it may not just be the one job you're losing. Something else to factor into the decision. Really ups the downside to getting caught, affects how you balance the risks to figure out what you're going to do. Rumor is he dropped it when taking a dump, the guy in the next stall saw it, eventually security identified him by his boots... So I suppose non descript footwear would be a good recommendation.
Randy
I'm not sure what happened to the poor soul who had the soft rifle case. I would not leave anything like that in my car. I'm sure they were concerned whether or not he stashed the rifle and would pick it up at some predetermined time. Not good.
I had a supplier once visit me and when he opened up his SUV and folded the rear seat a S&W box was present. He turned beet red and was fumbling stating that there was nothing in it. I calmed him and told him that it's HIS safety and HIS job and I could not care less either way.
Dropped it on the can, eh. Wow. I would have taken the time to go home and change...
Scooter70
04-27-2008, 09:59
The official policy is "no firearms allowed on company property". Discipline could result in termination. I have never had my vehicle searched during normal business hours. Security has peeked in the bed of my truck when coming/leaving on a Saturday though. That said, Top Gun in Taylor is about 15-20 minutes away so one could theoretically make it down there, shoot for half hour, and make it back by the end of a (slightly extended) lunch hour. I've heard it's been done.
Yes, I KNOW it's been done and probably still being done now that the weather has changed. Risky but doable. I'd not go shoot at lunch and head back to work. There's no telling who may witness you leave the range - no mater how unlikely it may seem. I think it better to simply leave it as it happens to be; don't disturb it.
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