Many ?s re. comps and dual 9mmM, .40 G22 – LWD, KKM, & SJC comp mount… [Archive] - Glock Talk

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cledford3
02-22-2008, 11:28
I’m starting to dabble into building an open gun and need some feedback on the best comp to go with. I may be trying to do too much, but would like the option of switching back and forth between 9mm major and 40S&W (if possible) on my Glock 22. I’ve decided on the G22 as after having owned a G35, G24 I shoot the 22 much better for some reason. At this point I'm investing the money to obtain an education and to play but intend this to be a serious process to build the best system for when I get serious.

First, will I even be able to make major out of a G22 length barrel for either caliber, with a comp?

Next question, if I end up only being able to go one route or the other – which is the better at working a comp (9mm or the 40)? I realize that with the 9mm I can stuff more rounds in the mag – so would think that it would be preferred if only picking one – but which is actually going to work better as open cartridge?

Next question – I really like what I see with KKM as far as the profile of their comp. For me, performance is important, but I’d like the gun to look decent as well. The KKM comp looks MUCH nicer IMHO then the LWD. In this area however, KKM only has 3 port comps for 9mm diameter bullets, vs. their 4 port 40 comps. Would it be a detriment to the effectiveness of the 9mm to only have 3 ports? Would it be better to go with the 40 4 port comp and run it on a KKM 9mm to 40 conversion barrel?

Any feedback on the LWD comps? They appear to be more complex then KKM (so I'm assumign possibly mor eeffective), but also are made from aluminum and are ugly as sin…

Any feedback on the SJC comp/mount combo? It looks like a real slick piece of hardware – but how effective is it going to be compared to a dedicated (barrel mounted) comp? Am I going to lose performance over however much either of the cartridges would work a dedicated comp? How much? I really like what I see with their product and they have an awesome rep – but want to do due diligence because, at $400, it is a very expensive accessory.

Finally, what is the worth in going with a G35/24 length setup with ports in the barrel AND a comp? Is it worth considering for the extra expense? (LWD suggested it) How much more (if any) does it make achieving major?

Any other advice going down this path would be appreciated.

Thanks,

-Calvin

Jager1147
02-22-2008, 12:55
Hey Calvin,

Are you building an IPSC gun? Search around on http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?act=idx for all the info you could want on this topic.

All depends on what you'll use the gun for. You've seen my comp too, but if you want to switch back and forth between calibers get LWD's M35 conversion to 9mm 6 port barrel if you still have the G35 slide. The 9mm 6 port works well with hot loads and a fast powder. Add a dot, and you've got an inexpensive entry level open gun. Burn some ammo.

Then the dark side will summon you... :tempted:

jager

JR
02-22-2008, 20:31
LWD makes an UGLY comp? Beauty must be in the eye of the beholder. If this is ugly I will take all I can get.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/LWD2.jpg



You cant get much more performance than this! Virtually a 100% dump..... Yeah it works!

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/Flash5LWD40.jpg

cledford3
02-22-2008, 21:18
WOW! That is an attention getter! So the look might not be my "thing" but the performance is awesome! What caliber is that beast?

JR, while I may have disrespected the looks of you comp, I've gotbnothing but thanks for the time you took to speak with me yesterday.

Calvin

JR
02-22-2008, 23:21
No offence taken. Like I said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The gun is the same in both pics. It is a G22 40 S&W LWD Open Class.



FYI: The LWD comp is metal not aluminum. Pat Kelley shot the gun and the pics. He is supposed to have a great article about this guns performance in the next issue of USPSA Front Sight

mscott
02-23-2008, 07:16
I am really looking forward to see what P. Kelley has to say about the Lone Wolf comps along with the other options on the market. The Front Sight article on AR comps was enlightening as the least expensive (Miculek) was nearly as, if not more effective than the ones costing more money. I am as skeptical as anyone, but will likely just have to buy one to find out for sure.

Cleford, why do you want to switch back and forth between calibers? Going with the 9mm will pay for itself in bullet cost alone very shortly, but you might want to use a 9mm slide. Don't forget Lone Wolf also has a new comp for major 9. I used a 357sig KKM barrel in a G24 slide, which you can get a Jager or SJC comp for. LW has their own threads which limits you to their comp, but is the most economical choice and might be a good starting point.

JR, where's that red dot sight? Will it be available soon? What base will it fit (Docter, or JPoint)?

2bigfeet
02-23-2008, 08:30
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/LWD2.jpg
Is this milled slide+Dot available for a 34/35 yet? I've been tormented by this setup since it was introduced. When does the teasing end...? :whistling:

JR
02-24-2008, 20:36
mscott Regarding our threaded barrels: Our intention was introduce the most affordable suppressor barrel available today. We noticed the threaded barrel market was divided into 2 classes. Accessories and suppressors. All we did was try to save YOU money by combining the two together. Our threaded barrels are intended for use in the suppressor market AND we offer a few accessories that fit them. The thread pitch we use is not ours. They are the standard of the industry.

2bigfeet The milled slides are available now. You can order the Weaver sight cut on any of our slides (or yours). The sight in the pic is a "one only". We tried to get Nikko Sterling to work with us, but it just aint gonna happen. We have a sample from another company on a couple guns now. We figure the sights that are available today are way too expensive and we are going to do everything in our power to fix that. Our intention is to produce a reliable sight for under $100.

2bigfeet
02-24-2008, 21:20
2bigfeet The milled slides are available now. You can order the Weaver sight cut on any of our slides (or yours). The sight in the pic is a "one only". We tried to get Nikko Sterling to work with us, but it just aint gonna happen. We have a sample from another company on a couple guns now. We figure the sights that are available today are way too expensive and we are going to do everything in our power to fix that. Our intention is to produce a reliable sight for under $100.

JR... PM sent.

Glock35shooter
02-29-2008, 14:05
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh52/glockopen9/glockopen9/IMG_0267.jpg?t=1204314905

Already 3000 rds of 9mm major thru it! :supergrin:

40Pirate
02-29-2008, 14:23
JR, when you gonna offer magwells? :whistling:

Duck of Death
02-29-2008, 14:23
I just finished my 2nd G34 w/KKM barrel and 4 port comp. These are major guns and won't work w/standard vel loads. I use a slide riding red dot, a Dr. on one and Fast Fire on the latest. One thing to consider, if you use a bullet like the MG IFP 121 mention it to Kevin at KKM so he can long throat your barrel. I didn't and my barrel is back being adjusted as I type this.

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