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Eric
02-26-2008, 14:23
Welcome to the Furball, folks. This forum might appear to be a readjustment of my policies here, but in actuality, it is complete capitulation.:supergrin: I am tired of refereeing argumentative threads about pit bulls, breastfeeding, global warming, smoking, home schooling, tattooing and all of the other subjects that many people seem incapable of discussing without arguing. I give up. Now that I have given up, what do I do? Do I just create a list of crap we can't talk about? I thought about it, but that would be a PITA to administer and enforce. I decided instead to open this romper room, where all the boys and girls that cannot work and play well with others can hang out and argue about Walmart's fascist plans for the USA. I joke, but I am tired of tripping over the same old arguments and cleaning up the same messes every single day. Some of you are turning the running of this place into a freaking chore.

So, now we have a place to banish all the threads about things that consistently disrupt the site and cause trouble, but people seem to really want to talk about. I know that there will be people that are not happy about this situation, but most of those will be the ones starting the trouble in the first place. Go figure.

What are the ground rules here? I am not complete sure yet, but posting rules will be relaxed somewhat. Messages posted here will not be indexed or searchable with the rest of the site and there will be a warning message when anyone enters this area. Although the posting rules will be relaxed, we are not going to allow people to cause trouble or insult people gratuitously, or to make asses of themselves here generally. We are going to have to make this up as we go. This thread will be a placeholder for what will eventually be a definitive list of guidelines for this forum. Please feel free to share your thoughts on this forum and any suggestions you have for its posting guidelines here. Welcome. Eric

Arquebus12
02-26-2008, 14:30
How bout we call it the AllanC Dictatorium on all Things Climatological?

Ender
02-26-2008, 14:47
my thoughts (honestly):

If things aren't quite a bit more relaxed here rules wise, we're just going to end up with two GNG's.

now, i'm not saying that it should be a free for all, but a definite relaxation on rules around insults, language, and pictures would be necessary for this forum to be unique from GNG.

Maybe a warning "if you click here, you may be offended or see the better part of a buttcheek :supergrin:

or perhaps set a number of posts/amt. of time at GT before this forum appears and/or is postable just to prevent people from registering under another name and causing all sorts of hell.

in all honesty, i think that either you have to let pretty much anything go here, or keep it to GNG, for two reasons: one...like i said before, otherwise we just have two GNG's. and b...if you don't, i think you're creating a hell of a lot more headache for yourself, mods, and admins when people get offended and report posts left and right.


just my opinions, of course, and you know what opinions are like :)

Eric
02-26-2008, 14:53
my thoughts (honestly):

If things aren't quite a bit more relaxed here rules wise, we're just going to end up with two GNG's.

now, i'm not saying that it should be a free for all, but a definite relaxation on rules around insults, language, and pictures would be necessary for this forum to be unique from GNG.

Maybe a warning "if you click here, you may be offended or see the better part of a buttcheek :supergrin:

or perhaps set a number of posts/amt. of time at GT before this forum appears and/or is postable just to prevent people from registering under another name and causing all sorts of hell.

in all honesty, i think that either you have to let pretty much anything go here, or keep it to GNG, for two reasons: one...like i said before, otherwise we just have two GNG's. and b...if you don't, i think you're creating a hell of a lot more headache for yourself, mods, and admins when people get offended and report posts left and right.


just my opinions, of course, and you know what opinions are like :)

This forum and this site are never going to be a skin pic site. There are plenty of other places online to indulge such appetites and this site is not one of them. That part of the guidelines will not change. The relaxation of the posting rules I mentioned would be in the area of interpersonal issues. If people want to argue here they can do so. We will relax the rules to allow for some heated exchange, but no one is going to be allowed to get stupid about it. This forum will be as close to a free-for-all as GT will ever get under my leadership, but there will still be limits. We just need to define them. Eric

canis latrans
02-26-2008, 14:59
from one of those who "don't work and play well with others"...Thanks, Eric!

Ender
02-26-2008, 15:04
This forum and this site are never going to be a skin pic site. There are plenty of other places online to indulge such appetites and this site is not one of them. That part of the guidelines will not change. The relaxation of the posting rules I mentioned would be in the area of interpersonal issues. If people want to argue here they can do so. We will relax the rules to allow for some heated exchange, but no one is going to be allowed to get stupid about it. This forum will be as close to a free-for-all as GT will ever get under my leadership, but there will still be limits. We just need to define them. Eric

I didn't mean turning into a nudie site at all, don't get me wrong ;)

as far as the other stuff...like i said, just throwing my thoughts out like you asked in the first post.

if i had to define specifics, i'd say that:

1) pretty much anything should go language wise, whether it ends up blocked by the filter or not. people get away with a lot of stuff in GNG, so it really wouldn't be THAT big of a step up.

2) no trolling allowed; just because things are more lax here doesn't mean the members need to see blatant troll posts, ads, etc etc. (i'm sure that goes w/o saying, but i'm having some fun with it).

3) what happens here, stays here: you and another member can get into it all you want in this forum, but it doesn't leave this forum or degenerate into petty personal insults elsewhere on the site.

4) no death threats/physical harm threats.



other than the basics, thats all i have to offer suggestion wise. It will be interesting to see where this forum ends up, and whether it turns out to be a good or bad thing in the long run. If i had to lay my money down, i know which side i'd lay it on...but i'd still only call it 60-40 odds in my favor ;)

PlaneJane
02-26-2008, 17:08
OK, let me see if I have this right:

OAF = Dopey

Furball = Grumpy

GNG = Snow White


Seems to me that the interesting people will stay in GNG and the interesting threads will end up in Furball. Not criticizing the decision; it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Jane

Eric
02-26-2008, 17:43
OK, let me see if I have this right:

OAF = Dopey

Furball = Grumpy

GNG = Snow White


Seems to me that the interesting people will stay in GNG and the interesting threads will end up in Furball. Not criticizing the decision; it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Jane

Apparently we have a very different opinion on the meaning of the word interesting, as it applies to threads. I don't consider the same few knuckleheads arguing over the same old topics ad infinitum interesting. I consider it tiring. Eric

Garrett Smith
02-26-2008, 18:11
So, can we move the religious folks and the posts on politics here?

Berto
02-26-2008, 18:38
Pit bulls rawk.

seanmac45
02-26-2008, 18:43
Eric;

Do you expect the contentuous threads to be started here, or is this the final dumping ground for them from other forums (i.e. religious, political, etc.)

ghostwn
02-26-2008, 18:49
I have better things to read, then to read about this stuff...:whistling:

Texas357
02-26-2008, 19:02
Will threads in this forum show up when you click "New Posts?"

The idea is intriguing, and I hope it works at keeping the peace and saving you trouble. Have you considered nominating more moderators, rather than letting every decision come to you?

pesticidal
02-26-2008, 19:12
Can we have a thread about how much of a 'tard Ender is?


:rofl:

intheburbs
02-26-2008, 19:17
And I thought this was going to be a cat forum.....

Let's call it the train wreck forum! You want to look away, but you can't. You feel this compulsion to watch. At least now it's a one-stop shop. Thanks, Eric.

Ender
02-26-2008, 20:24
Can we have a thread about how much of a 'tard Ender is?


:rofl:

you can have that in ANY forum you want. ;)

Eric
02-26-2008, 20:49
Will threads in this forum show up when you click "New Posts?"

The idea is intriguing, and I hope it works at keeping the peace and saving you trouble. Have you considered nominating more moderators, rather than letting every decision come to you?

Threads from this forum will not appear in the New Posts list. Neither will posts from the PI forum, RI forum or CL forum any longer. Eric

PlaneJane
02-26-2008, 21:21
Apparently we have a very different opinion on the meaning of the word interesting, as it applies to threads. I don't consider the same few knuckleheads arguing over the same old topics ad infinitum interesting. I consider it tiring. Eric

Apparently, as so frequently happens, I misunderstood. I assumed that in addition to the hot button threads, any others that got "spirited" would be moved here also. In any case, I intended no criticism. Whatever you choose to do here is, by definition, correct.

Jane

Londo Mollari
02-26-2008, 21:53
Eric,

How is your workload going to change because of this? Either you or a moderator still has to move threads here to die; wouldn't it be just as easy to lock the threads?

Why don't you try setting up a temporary posting ban system for posters that cause you to do work, but you wouldn't outright ban? Like have it say something like: your posting privileges have been revoked for __24__ hours due to your behavior in thread _____. I suspect that if people got warnings like that they might change their behavior, shape up, and be more productive in the future. Naturally this will not work perfectly, but it might force people with hot tempers to cool their heels and thereby improve the general quality of the site.

Gallium
02-27-2008, 03:12
Eric;

Do you expect the contentuous threads to be started here, or is this the final dumping ground for them from other forums (i.e. religious, political, etc.)


:tongueout:

I owe you a beer, or the tel # for that Highway chic, whichever is easier!
:cool:

'Drew

canis latrans
02-27-2008, 18:33
actually, I think this will be the death knell for global warming threads. (I can almost hear Eric crossing his fingers)

I don't argue with allan to try to convince him. I argue with allan so others (non-committed) can see how silly the alarmists' ideas truly are.

without the audience, there's no point in it, is there?

(perhaps Eric is wiser than his years :cool: )

Dandapani
02-27-2008, 19:19
Threads from this forum will not appear in the New Posts list. Neither will posts from the PI forum, RI forum or CL forum any longer. Eric

Has this been reversed? I found Furball, RI, and PI in the New Post list just now. That's how I found Furball.

Pitmaster
02-27-2008, 20:31
My first and last post here.

Can the paid members have a button to hide this forum so we don't ever get sucked in out of morbid curisoity. Please, please, please. :wavey:

I do think this is a great idea and makes lots of sense. In fact anything emanating from this thread should probably be ignored or deleted by moderators.

I would also suggest purging this forum every month or less.

Texas357
02-27-2008, 20:37
Perhaps this would be a good place to save resources, by, say, removing any thread in the forum that goes inactive more than 30 days?

itisbruno
02-27-2008, 23:03
Can I say poopy pants here?

troy96
02-29-2008, 09:50
I hope this will be the place all the Walmart WWB ammo threads end up as well.

Cali-Glock
02-29-2008, 12:17
OK, let me see if I have this right:

OAF = Dopey

Furball = Grumpy

GNG = Snow White

Jane

:rofl: Thank you Jane!! So very often you make my day!

scratchy wilson
02-29-2008, 22:23
This forum and this site are never going to be a skin pic site. There are plenty of other places online to indulge such appetites and this site is not one of them

In that case,


got links? :animlol:

TBO
02-29-2008, 23:35
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/TheeBadOne/TBO/doh.gif

Roogalator
03-01-2008, 09:52
Eric, how about just outright banning the folks who continuously demonstrate their inability to follow the incredibly obvious and easy to comply with rules of the forum? If someone has neither the mental horsepower nor the will to abide by the house rules do you really want them here? What do they add to the site, other than unnecessary headaches for you and the moderators?

Rather than a membership of millions, some non-trivial portion of whom are jackasses, how about a more limited membership of people who are intelligent, thoughtful, considerate, and have useful things to add to the site? Quality, not quantity, is what makes a site worth repeat visits. I say this having just returned here from a long absence caused by what I perceived to be the site's steadily declining signal-to-noise ratio.

I Joshua
03-02-2008, 18:35
Can I say poopy pants here?

your avatar rawks!

itisbruno
03-04-2008, 21:24
your avatar rawks!

Thank you sir ... yours is pretty skeery

:thumbsup:

johnrobinson
03-06-2008, 10:58
I have a feeling the per capita ratio of "people who shoud get banned" is going to be pretty high in this forum!

Oh well... It's easy enough to ignore. I'm just here because I had no idea what this forum was.

At least now there's a place where we know "if you go there, you know EXACTLY what you're going to get."

On the other hand, should people be able to start threads there? To me, it shows intent of "I'm gonna start a fight, so I might as well put it in the Furball."

If you know it's going to be a fight, why start it at all? Maybe those people should just get the big ol' boot.

Anyway, I'm rambling. Imout.

RonS
03-07-2008, 14:27
I suggested this several years ago, similar to the "Blazes" forum on Baen's Bar where hotheads are sent when they can't keep it civil in the real forums.

I like it. I thought GNG had been uncommonly civil lately.

Now that I have said that, I am outahere, hopefully, never to return.

engineer151515
03-07-2008, 19:49
OAF without gloves............

I need a drink.

Clyde in CO
03-17-2008, 04:26
This section should be called The Oubliette.

A place mods stick threads to forget about them.

Mnukedude
03-18-2008, 05:07
This section should be called The Oubliette.

A place mods stick threads to forget about them.

Been watching old Jennifer Connelly movies I take it.

mitchshrader
03-27-2008, 01:50
aight, i got a suggestion.

don't peeve Eric enough you get banned, and let that be your total ruleage.

i figure the worst offenders are self identifying, ya might make it a substantial wrist slap, say, a month for public indecency.. and a perm ban on idjits couldn't take a hint the first time.

i been running on that system a while and it's not perfect but it beats no system at all.

at some point it's about the bottom line anyway, so, call it that.

jerks get thrown off the bus for cause, Eric drives the bus, the TOS ain't invisible.

why make it complex? that first step is a doozy.. and the second one don't have a bottom to it. that gives any jerks time to contemplate their misdeeds and repent, or NOT.. and plenty time for tempers to cool off. . and if it happens twice WITH em, and not WITHOUT em.. ya got cher no brainer.

and if it happens with the OTHER guy, and them GONE..well, uh, that's kinda a no brainer too..:)

justinhcannon
04-09-2008, 20:44
mitch... reading that made my brain hurt.

Dragoon44
04-25-2008, 19:04
I like the idea of this forum, personally it does not bother me when some people become less than civil, I will continue to answer their points if they choose to try and make them. Now rather than the thread simply be locked, it can be moved here.

Another idea to consider is to have a forum called "The Arena". you got two, (or even a couple) of posters that really want to duke it out on a particular subject then they could go at it in a forum where others could read their posts but not be able to respond. only the designated posters would be able to post.

Just a thought.

Mnukedude
04-25-2008, 19:12
I like the idea of this forum, personally it does not bother me when some people become less than civil, I will continue to answer their points if they choose to try and make them. Now rather than the thread simply be locked, it can be moved here.

Another idea to consider is to have a forum called "The Arena". you got two, (or even a couple) of posters that really want to duke it out on a particular subject then they could go at it in a forum where others could read their posts but not be able to respond. only the designated posters would be able to post.

Just a thought.

Interesting idea, the Arena. May I suggest a small modification? The nondesignated posters may not post messages, but can post smilies only. The popcorn one would be especially useful here, and in keeping with your apparant intent.

JellyBelly
05-06-2008, 18:51
How about calling it the "Tard Yard"?

12131
05-07-2008, 13:18
For some reason, I thought this is the FUBAR Forum.:dunno:

Mnukedude
05-07-2008, 22:51
For some reason, I thought this is the FUBAR Forum.:dunno:

That depends on who is posting!:tongueout:

Glockdude1
06-05-2008, 07:32
For some reason, I thought this is the FUBAR Forum.:dunno:

:rofl:

Hey Eric, have you read this thread?

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615564

:rofl:

itisbruno
06-05-2008, 10:11
:rofl:

Hey Eric, have you read this thread?

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615564

:rofl:

I forgot about that thread, it is fun

:supergrin:

volky
09-09-2008, 18:19
This forum and this site are never going to be a skin pic site. There are plenty of other places online to indulge such appetites and this site is not one of them. That part of the guidelines will not change. The relaxation of the posting rules I mentioned would be in the area of interpersonal issues. If people want to argue here they can do so. We will relax the rules to allow for some heated exchange, but no one is going to be allowed to get stupid about it. This forum will be as close to a free-for-all as GT will ever get under my leadership, but there will still be limits. We just need to define them. Eric

So does that mean no firearms but baseball bats and possibly knives are OK?

Mnukedude
09-10-2008, 07:15
So does that mean no firearms but baseball bats and possibly knives are OK?

Brass knuckles and lead pipes?:tongueout:

Unregistered
11-20-2008, 16:53
This forum is totally not what I expected.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Fursuit_TaniDaReal_top.jpg/419px-Fursuit_TaniDaReal_top.jpg

twoblackbelts
06-03-2009, 08:50
And I thought this was going to be a cat forum.....

Let's call it the train wreck forum!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/twoblackbelts/DERAILED.jpg?t=1244040547

RayB
07-08-2009, 22:29
I hope this will be the place all the Walmart WWB ammo threads end up as well.

:agree:

Can We Also Shunt the Following...

- Black or OD?

- How's This? (Shows Target)

- 9 mm Vs. .45 ACP?

- Wow, Is Ammo Expensive!

- XD or Glock?

- Michael Jackson (Anything!)

...Posts to This Newly Created Singularity?

--Ray

bsg1
12-12-2009, 14:10
just call it "the fun zone".

Streetking
01-30-2011, 01:02
why is the post censored at all. let it rip

TBO
02-28-2011, 20:37
I like the idea of this forum, personally it does not bother me when some people become less than civil, I will continue to answer their points if they choose to try and make them. Now rather than the thread simply be locked, it can be moved here.

Another idea to consider is to have a forum called "The Arena". you got two, (or even a couple) of posters that really want to duke it out on a particular subject then they could go at it in a forum where others could read their posts but not be able to respond. only the designated posters would be able to post.

Just a thought.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/TheeBadOne/TBO/zz4_17_208.gif