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eroom
02-26-2008, 16:43
Any One That Does Not Know About This Might Want To Look Into It Your Right To Gun Ownership May Be At Stake

md2lgyk
02-26-2008, 17:21
Look into what? Do you have a link to what you're talking about?

And BTW, why the heck do you capitalize every word??

jbylake
02-26-2008, 17:36
Any One That Does Not Know About This Might Want To Look Into It Your Right To Gun Ownership May Be At Stake

No info? Maybe Troll?

eroom
02-26-2008, 18:57
try the web site noworldsystem.com or the number of the house bill is HR2640

jbylake
02-26-2008, 20:00
try the web site noworldsystem.com or the number of the house bill is HR2640
Don't bother, this is one of those Whako sites, where the publishers are the same ones wearing aluminum foil helmets and clothes hangar attenae on their heads.
That is unless you want to read stories of how the Bush administration, and the government, are secretly an "arm of Al-queda", and how after 911 Bush and Chaney were conspiring to put Americans into concentration camps that have already been secretely built, crap.
Geez,,,gimme a fugin break......

:faint:

j.

This is Troll material, you can see it in the grocery line under National Enquirer, or any Michael Moore movie..

b52ace
02-27-2008, 16:50
Despite the referenced web site, the bill (HR 2640 - NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007) has been referred to as "The Veterans Disarmament Act" by the Gun Owners of America (GOA). Check out these links -

http://www.gunowners.org/ne0701.htm
http://www.gunowners.org/a010808.htm

It has the effect of not allowing veterans who have been diagnosed with certain mental issues (PTSD) from owning weapons of any sort. Below is an exerpt of the second link:

"The worst aspect is, in section 3(2), that it STATUTORILY FREEZES IN regulations at 27 CFR 478.11 which would make you a "prohibited person" if:

* You were found by any "lawful authority" (including a IDEA school therapist, a Medicare psychologist, or a VA doctor to:
1. Represent even a minimal suicide risk;
2. Represent even a minimal playground risk to other students; or
3. Be incapable of managing your own affairs; or
* Were referred by such "lawful authority" to a psychiatrist or psychologist to be evaluated in connection with child custody proceedings or other contexts in which professional assessment is ordered.

This means that a future hypothetical pro-gun administration would be powerless to change the regulations so that they did not apply to:
-- Veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder;
-- Kids put on Ritalin in connection with the IDEA program;
-- Seniors diagnosed with Alzheimer's in connection with Medicare's home health care assistance; or
-- Seniors (perhaps with a gun collection accumulated over a lifetime) who continue to live in their homes, but are put under guardianship by their adult children.

In the pretense of doing gun owners some huge favor, the bill explicitly recognizes, in section 101(c)(1)(C), that a psychiatrist's finding is sufficient to make you a prohibited person, so long as that finding is based on one of the three criteria listed above. And, incidentally, when a kid is put on Ritalin, mom is diagnosed with Alzheimer's, a vet is found to have post-traumatic stress disorder, or gramps is put under a guardianship, it is ALMOST ALWAYS based, in whole or in part, on one of those three factors."