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watsoncb
03-16-2008, 19:15
Anyone have and suggestions on the best silencer for a SIG SAUER Mosquito? Buy best I am looking for the quietest one.
Pima Pants
03-16-2008, 20:22
I've got a TAC-65 for my Walther P-22. The barrel was already threaded on this gun so I just bought an adapter from the manufacturer, Tactical Innovations. The suppressor was $265 delivered to my dealer. It's a great little suppressor and has the advantage of being user serviceable/cleanable. It comes with the tool to remove the end caps.
There is not a whole lot of difference between the sound reduction of .22 cans nowadays. The extras you pay for are in the materials used; i.e. stainless steel vs. aluminum, titanium, etc.
USMCsilver
03-16-2008, 21:38
Ditto to above.
Stainless is heavy. Titanium is pointless. Aluminum is economical and friendly.
Do some research. Decible ratings for .22 cans differs slighly. IMHO, get something cheap and it'll do the job. Anything suppressed w/ .22 subsonics will give a sound of a firing pin dropping, the sound of the action, and then the sound of the impact of the round. Nothing less, nothing more.
hotrodtba
03-18-2008, 20:18
Check out the .22LR reviews at this website:
http://www.silencerresearch.com/
You might have to register, but it is free.
Gemtech's outback2 will suit your 'skeeter just fine. SWR and AAC plusthe TAC series are also good cans.
Ask one person they will say buy the gemtech ( me, because I have one ), some will say SWR. You wont be disappointed with either of the mentioned ones.
Dont make up your mind based on DB reduction websites. Theres much more to a can than it's claimed DB reduction, such as customer service.
I have a TAC-52 and its plenty quiet.
I got it for maybe $200 early last year.
When I got my SWR, I was told it was the quietest. My C3 had a Tac. After hearing my SWR, he bought an SWR. :-)
SWR has given excellent customer service. I screwed up something, he fixed it free.
Gemtech has answered emails, so far I haven't screwed up anything, but if I do it will cost me.
Gemtech has answered emails, so far I haven't screwed up anything, but if I do it will cost me.
Depends what you screw up.
watsoncb
03-21-2008, 09:28
The SWR Spectre seems to do well in the silencer research and videos of a Spectre on a Walther or a SIG show it to be very quiet.
Would I be correct that part of figuring out how "quiet" the silencer will be is the ammo and what works in the firearm? I have seen several threads of individuals complaining about both guns as being ammo sensitive. I have just purchased (waiting on delivery) a SIG Mosquito Tactical and wonder which type will work with the gun and be quieter.
USMCsilver
03-21-2008, 11:56
I have seen several threads of individuals complaining about both guns as being ammo sensitive.
Don't know if this will help or not, but Aguila 40gr subsonics won't cycle my 10/22. However, cheap Remington subsonics cycle fine.
Having said that, you don't need subsonic ammo in a handgun. The barrel is too short to speed up a round fast enough to achieve super-sonic speeds.
Just shoot bulk pack. I know my suppressed P22 will eat bulk ammo all day.
Would I be correct that part of figuring out how "quiet" the silencer will be is the ammo and what works in the firearm?
Yes, ammo does matter.
Having said that, you don't need subsonic ammo in a handgun. The barrel is too short to speed up a round fast enough to achieve super-sonic speeds.
I can hear the difference between Remington/Federal target ammo and Winchester/CCI/Remington bulk pack ammo. I "think" it is going supersonic occasionally. This is with Glock21 AA conversion.
Aguila, colbre and super colbre do not cycle any gun I own. They are dangerous. They make no sound until they hit the target. It feels like you are shooting a toy, but don't shoot anything important because it is dangerous.
check out www.major-malfunction.com you won't beat his prices or service I got a Walther P22 with TAC 65 for 429, I do believe that combo is 465 now
nnickatnight
03-26-2008, 08:16
I would check out the Yankee Hill Mite. It's one of the cans i use for my Sig and is awesome. It comes apart for service by the owner but is a far cry better for taking apart than the tac's. The tac's are a beating compared to this. It simply unscrews in two pieces just like the AAC prodigy. It's full auto rated and is half the price of the Prodigy and the company provides great customer service. For $250 retail I don't think the others can touch it.
edrobert
03-26-2008, 14:38
TAC 65 is great for the price and is user servicable. While most foks will disagree on wich to get, most will agree on the idea that due to the investment required you should get the one you definitly want so there's no regrets......the used silencer market isn't that great!
check out www.major-malfunction.com you won't beat his prices or service I got a Walther P22 with TAC 65 for 429, I do believe that combo is 465 now
i emailed those guy on monday and am still waiting on hearing something.
any idea on anyone else to contact regarding where to purchase a suppressor. specifically looking at a 22lr. i like the look of the sierra manufacturing one.
check out www.major-malfunction.com you won't beat his prices or service I got a Walther P22 with TAC 65 for 429, I do believe that combo is 465 now
A big + 1 for Major Malfunction. I bought a TAC-65/Walther P22 combo from him too. Great guy, did all the paperwork, best price around.
RenegadeGlocker
03-29-2008, 17:49
any idea on anyone else to contact regarding where to purchase a suppressor. specifically looking at a 22lr. i like the look of the sierra manufacturing one.
If you are looking for a GemTech Outback II, AAC Prodigy, AAC Aviator, SWR Warlock, SWR Warlock/QD, SWR Spectre, contct me via PM.
nnickatnight
03-29-2008, 20:04
Do not buy a Prodigy without looking at the Yankee Hill Mite. They are almost identical with identical performance and it's half the price. AAC has a horrible reputation for bad customer service and I would consult subguns.com for a source of information on NFA items. They have a Board of Inquiry which allows you to research Dealers, products, etc. You need to do your research and you will get alot of helpful insight form people in the know by using that site!
RenegadeGlocker
03-29-2008, 21:08
Do not buy a Prodigy without looking at the Yankee Hill Mite.
The Mite is one of the loudest 22LR silencers ever sold. Whether on pistol or rifle, performance sucks. The Prodigy is a poor performer on a pistol, but rifle performance is pretty good. AAC has announced a free upgrade to the Prodigy, and it was on display at SHOT. It is expensive though.
nnickatnight
03-30-2008, 09:40
It's performance is relative to ammo and barrel length. While it does perform poorly on longer barreled pistols, it does perform well on a walther or sig platform. I have an intergral suppressed Serbu Ruger and the Sig with the Yankee Hill and they perform about equal.
It's performance is relative to ammo and barrel length. While it does perform poorly on longer barreled pistols, it does perform well on a walther or sig platform. I have an intergral suppressed Serbu Ruger and the Sig with the Yankee Hill and they perform about equal.
Not to start a argument but when it was tested it was 2nd from the worst on a rifle, and 2nd from the worst on a pistol.
Also when the 2sets of numbers are averaged together it is the loudest suppressor tested
nnickatnight
03-30-2008, 14:24
No arguement to start. Your looking at one test with about three points from top to bottom. None of the testing was done wet either. I'm not sure how many suppressors you own or experience you have with them but there is also a big difference between perceived suppression when standing next to the weapon and the electronic decibel testing. Is it the quietest one out there? Nope, sure isn't but firing it next to anyone on that list and the difference is negliable with the exception of the Lauer and that is simply due to the fact that I have yet to test fire one. I have either owned or test fired every other one on the test your referring to and the difference is not enough to pay twice as much money for. The tactical inc. can is a good one but it is a beating for taking apart. My advice to anyone buying any brand of can is not to read articles of someone elses testing but to go listen before you buy. Your own ears will provide the best suppression that you will be happy with!
RenegadeGlocker
03-30-2008, 14:35
No arguement to start. Your looking at one test with about three points from top to bottom.
Actually top to bottom is 12 for pistol and 8 for rifle.
Mite is:
Pistol - 10 dB louder than #1
Rifle - 7 dB louder than #1
3dB is considered 2x as loud, so 7 & 10 is considered very, very loud. I have heard the Mite vs. most of the others a dozen or more times in the last year and I would say the chart is pretty much on-target, though rifle results does not seem as spread to me. Keep in mind when you hear it for yourself, the mic is in front of the muzzle, and you are [usually] behind the muzzle, so perception of sound will be different.
nnickatnight
03-30-2008, 14:43
Like I said go try different ones out and then make your choice. Having shot almost all of them along with others from my pd the difference was not worth paying double or more for. If you want the best suppression out there then none of them on the list are listed. The AWC amphibian isn't on there but will outshoot all of them. It is also about $1500.00.
RenegadeGlocker
03-30-2008, 14:48
The AWC amphibian isn't on there but will outshoot all of them. It is also about $1500.00.
Amphibian is Integral and will not work on the Sig Mosquito like the OP has requested.
nnickatnight
03-30-2008, 16:22
I'm done. Let him buy whatever you suggest, you of course are the expert.
I'm done. Let him buy whatever you suggest, you of course are the expert.
The op said Anyone have and suggestions on the best silencer for a SIG SAUER Mosquito? Buy best I am looking for the quietest one.
If thats the criteria then the yhm does not cut it. if you are going strictly on price vs Db rediction the HP LLC Checkmate it currently $99 and is the cheapest per db. ( It ranked very good on a rifle and not bad on a pistol)
The "BEST" according to the Db Meter is the SWR warlock
nnickatnight
03-30-2008, 21:35
Not sure why I'm wasting my time but the meter isn't the answer to everything. The meter may rate one different than the other but when you actually shoot it yourself your audible opinion may be different than what the meter says. That's why I said go shoot them and then make a decison. If you want to make your decision on an expensive purchase soley based on one test that you didn't personally witness nor conduct then go right ahead! I don't spend my hard earned cash based on one person's experience I try and be more open minded about the totality of the circumstances.
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