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scott.poole
03-19-2008, 12:44
The Georgia congress is considering a bill (HB 89) that would remove a number of restrictions from where a concealed weapons permit holder is allowed to carry a concealed weapon.

I'm providing a link where you can sign an online petition supporting HB 89
which will be delivered to the bill's sponsor to help him convince other
legislators that this issue is important to the citizens of Georgia. It will
take you longer to read this post than it will to sign the petition and the
only info you give is your name, email address, and zip code (if you want).

Thanks,

Scott

Link: http://www.petitiononline.com/GAHB89/petition.html

Skykevver
03-31-2008, 12:23
FYI...the petition is closed to new signatures per the website. Thanks for bringing this to public awareness.

FillYerHands
04-03-2008, 06:08
The bill passed on April 2! See this story in the Urinal/Constipation. (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/metro/stories/2008/04/02/guns_0403.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=13)

I am looking for a voting record.

scott.poole
04-05-2008, 09:59
Actually, HB 89 passed both houses as of last night. Now, all that remains is for it to cross the Gov's desk and (assuming no veto) should be law as of July 1, 2008.

Thanks to all who signed the online petition, but more importantly our legislators who made it possible.

Specific thanks go out to Rep. Tim Bearden (house sponsor) and Senators Chip Rogers and John Douglas who pushed things on their side.

thooks
04-07-2008, 10:30
The bill passed on April 2! See this story in the Urinal/Constipation. (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/metro/stories/2008/04/02/guns_0403.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=13)

I am looking for a voting record.



Please post the voting record when you find it. I could prolly look myself, but I'm lazy and not a resident of GA. But I'd like to inform the sheep around me who to vote for when they say "but I don't know who to vote for..."

:steamed:

zodiacbw
04-08-2008, 21:30
Another report on HB 89 (http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=4B47DBAC8898F9BBDBD533B1798E66D9?contentId=6255343&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)

Nothing new it seems other than the anti-gun folk complaining.

"A Perdue spokesman said the governor had not yet decided whether he would sign the bill. An avid hunter, Perdue generally backs gun rights. But that support is not absolute."

yrone
04-10-2008, 20:50
Lets give him a ring tomorrow and ask if we might pretty please be able to legally defend ourselves while out to eat.

Capitol Address
Office of the Governor, Georgia State Capitol
Atlanta, GA 30334
Phone: 404-656-1776

king-of-typos-91
04-10-2008, 20:55
This is a repost of my post I started a few months back, no big deal.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821671

The Governor already said once before he would not sign it in to law because Georgia does not require any training or testing before issuing a license.

bankerrkt
04-11-2008, 19:39
Make your voice heard. Give the Gov a call. I intend to.

GeorgiaGlocker
04-14-2008, 15:07
This is how it went down on the last legislative day in the house and the senate.

House vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf0l0vbNZ-c
Senate vote: Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-cDZDS35Y
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPj2h88pFtg

Rep Tim Bearden (R) spear-headed this effort and without his "tenacity" and "I will not quit" attitude we have HB 89 on the Governors desk. Rep Bearden is presenting HB 89 in the house video. Senator Chip Rogers (R) is presenting HB 89 in the Senate. Notice has he handles the anti's (democrats) with his responses. The house side is much friendlier than the senate.

FillYerHands
04-15-2008, 10:02
Please post the voting record when you find it. I could prolly look myself, but I'm lazy and not a resident of GA. But I'd like to inform the sheep around me who to vote for when they say "but I don't know who to vote for..."

:steamed:

Here is the HB 89 page (www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2007_08/sum/hb89.htm) with links to all the votes.

Happily both my representatives voted Yes.

Wiskey_33
04-16-2008, 08:15
As I'm certain you are aware of by now, House Bill 89 passed both the House and the Senate on the last day of the Legislative session. We wanted to make each signer of the Petition for House Bill 89 aware of this fact and also wanted to point out that it's not law until signed by Governor Perdue.

Being that the restaurant business association, MARTA, the AJC, and other less than gun friendly organizations are making stances to get Perdue to veto 89, I feel that we need to politely encourage the Governor to sign HB 89 into law. At this time, we feel that putting ink to paper is by far the best method of contact but we would like to encourage any proper means to be used at will...

> Be Polite
> Be Precise
> Don't Be Long Winded
> If You Call, Know What You Want To Say Before Dialing (suggest writing it down even)
> Use Multiple Methods Of Contact; Do Not Use The Same Message
> Encourage Other Gun Owners To Contact The Governor, But Remind Them To Be Polite (Make Friends, Don't Burn A Bridge)

Methods To Use

Web Form E-Mail: http://gov.georgia.gov/00/gov/contact_us/0,2657,78006749_94820188,00.html

Snail Mail (USPS):
The Office of the Governor
State of Georgia
203 State Capitol
Atlanta, Georgia 30334

Phone:
404-656-1776

Fax:
404-657-7332

Facts you may want to use in your letter are:

> The right of self protection has been a recognized human right since the conception of this nation.

> Under current law, a law-abiding citizen with a Georgia firearm license permit may go into any restaurant in the state that does not sell alcohol. That is about 75 percent to 80 percent of all restaurants in Georgia.

> If this bill is signed into law, Georgia will become the 44th state in the nation to allow carrying weapons on public transportation.

> Georgia firearm licensees are law abiding citizens, a number close to 300,000, that have taken time to undergo stringent background verifications to qualify us as able to carry a firearm in places of public interest for the purposes of self-protection.

Senator
04-16-2008, 08:21
The AJC continues its negative press parade regarding HB 89. Please call the Gov Purdue's office at 404 656 1776 and politely encourage the signing of HB 89 into law. Be courteous and succinct...much is hanging in the balance.

thooks
04-20-2008, 17:56
Has he signed it?

How much longer can it sit before it becomes law / expires ?

In Alabama, if the Gov does not sign the bill in a certain number of days, it automatically becomes law. Does this work in GA???

GeorgiaGlocker
04-21-2008, 14:44
Has he signed it?

How much longer can it sit before it becomes law / expires ?

In Alabama, if the Gov does not sign the bill in a certain number of days, it automatically becomes law. Does this work in GA???

The Governor doesn't have to sign it to become law as long as he doesn't veto it. Although we would like his signature on HB 89. The only thing that would stop HB 89 from becoming law is a veto and the Governor must veto it before May 30th. If he signs it or he doesn't veto it, it will take effect on July 1, 2008.

king-of-typos-91
04-21-2008, 18:25
The Governor doesn't have to sign it to become law as long as he doesn't veto it. Although we would like his signature on HB 89. The only thing that would stop HB 89 from becoming law is a veto and the Governor must veto it before May 30th. If he signs it or he doesn't veto it, it will take effect on July 1, 2008.

How do you know that?

That is the first time I heard a governor can not sign something and it still become law, but then again I'm not Mr law 101 either.

I was not aware of the governors time limit.


But anyway, Expect the VETO, Sunny Perdue sucks.

GeorgiaGlocker
04-22-2008, 15:40
These are the rules. They are similar to other states. Marta is now making a big push to the governor to veto HB 89. We cannot let up! Every contact we make to the Governor's office can make a difference. Ask you friends/relatives to contact the governor by telephone or even better with a letter and ask him to sign HB89.

king-of-typos-91
04-22-2008, 15:48
These are the rules. They are similar to other states. Marta is now making a big push to the governor to veto HB 89. We cannot let up! Every contact we make to the Governor's office can make a difference. Ask you friends/relatives to contact the governor by telephone or even better with a letter and ask him to sign HB89.


Well that answered my question, thanks!:whistling:

thooks
04-23-2008, 13:40
King,

these types of laws are well known in the circles of people that know and understand the legislative process. I really don't live here in GA (I maintain my residence in AL), but I knew this was the process in AL and figure it might be similar in GA. I just didn't pull it out of my lower orifice.

GeorgiaGlocker
04-23-2008, 18:57
Well that answered my question, thanks!:whistling:

I realize I didn't answer your question the other day. I was in a hurry, but here is the website from the Secretary of State from where the information comes from. Scroll down to VIII.

http://sos.georgia.gov/tours/html/bill.html

king-of-typos-91
04-23-2008, 22:01
Well the mayor is going to ask Purdue to VETO it tomorrow in a live press conference, she an idiot.

GeorgiaGlocker
04-23-2008, 23:03
Well the mayor is going to ask Purdue to VETO it tomorrow in a live press conference, she an idiot.

and there will be pro 2nd amendment folks there as well. If you haven't heard of two websites, I invite you to check out:

www.georgiapacking.org a gun forum &

www.georgiacarry.org a pro 2nd amendment organization fighting to restore/improve your carry/firearm rights in GA.

king-of-typos-91
04-24-2008, 06:17
Yes but I don't think this will pass.. He's getting tooooooo much pressure from tooooooo many people.

I have said this before, Purdue is big idiot and he will listen to the pressure from the mayor and restaurants owners and all the other anti gun people.

He's also on record for being supportive of gun owners, yes that's true but he's also on record for saying he's not in favor of this bill.

He has said that GA gun permit holders are not trained and believes it puts the public at risk having untrained people with guns running around.

I hate to say it again but I have said it before, expect a VETO..

A little over 300,000 people have permits, out of what 3 + million.

GeorgiaGlocker
04-24-2008, 10:37
Yes but I don't think this will pass.. He's getting tooooooo much pressure from tooooooo many people.

I have said this before, Purdue is big idiot and he will listen to the pressure from the mayor and restaurants owners and all the other anti gun people.

He's also on record for being supportive of gun owners, yes that's true but he's also on record for saying he's not in favor of this bill.

He has said that GA gun permit holders are not trained and believes it puts the public at risk having untrained people with guns running around.

I hate to say it again but I have said it before, expect a VETO..

A little over 300,000 people have permits, out of what 3 + million.

At least there are those of us trying. Yes, the Governor is getting alot of pressure from BOTH sides. The anti-side uses emotions, fear, misinformation, made of facts and do not even understand current state law in their arguments against restoring our carry rights. We use FACTS. And speaking of facts, there are about 300,000 GFL holders in GA out of a population of 9 + million. Check it out.

king-of-typos-91
04-24-2008, 14:14
At least there are those of us trying. Yes, the Governor is getting alot of pressure from BOTH sides. The anti-side uses emotions, fear, misinformation, made of facts and do not even understand current state law in their arguments against restoring our carry rights. We use FACTS. And speaking of facts, there are about 300,000 GFL holders in GA out of a population of 9 + million. Check it out.

nine million people in metro Atlanta or the whole state? I was told 300k in METRO Atlanta have permits, not state wide, and that's what I was stating.

Look I am all for us having the right to carry I think that's obvious or else I would not be on GT or a gun owner, nor would I have started this topic on GT and other forums if I was not for it, but I'm just being realistic saying this will never happen because of all the bad press this has gotten and all the people against it that's all.

I have written e mails and made phone calls , again I have started this topic before on GT and on a few others forums I post on. I have even posted e mails and phone numbers for others to call and write to, I have done my part and gave it my all but again being realistic, it's not going to happen.

GeorgiaGlocker
04-25-2008, 07:44
nine million people in metro Atlanta or the whole state? I was told 300k in METRO Atlanta have permits, not state wide, and that's what I was stating.

Look I am all for us having the right to carry I think that's obvious or else I would not be on GT or a gun owner, nor would I have started this topic on GT and other forums if I was not for it, but I'm just being realistic saying this will never happen because of all the bad press this has gotten and all the people against it that's all.

I have written e mails and made phone calls , again I have started this topic before on GT and on a few others forums I post on. I have even posted e mails and phone numbers for others to call and write to, I have done my part and gave it my all but again being realistic, it's not going to happen.

There are 300,000 GFL holders in the entire state of GA. The state population is a little over 9 million. That equates to about 3% of the population having permits which is very small. Look, I thank you for what you have done to move our cause forward. That "press conference" yesterday with the mayor was something else. I don't even know where to start with Mayor Shirley on some of her "facts" or should I say "fearmongering". I'm not giving up until I hear that the Governor has vetoed HB 89. I still think there is a chance he will sign it.

king-of-typos-91
04-27-2008, 07:14
VIII. BILL GOES TO GOVERNOR

A. Governor may sign the bill into law
B. May veto the bill
C. Bills not acted on will automatically become law (has 6 days during session and 40 days after session)

IX. VETO OVERRIDE

General Assembly may override a veto by 2/3 vote and measure becomes law

Thanks for posting this..

So he has 40 days to decided what to do, pretty cool.

I do expect a VETO from Purdue because he's an idiot, but hope we can get a veto override..

GeorgiaGlocker
04-28-2008, 11:09
VIII. BILL GOES TO GOVERNOR

A. Governor may sign the bill into law
B. May veto the bill
C. Bills not acted on will automatically become law (has 6 days during session and 40 days after session)

IX. VETO OVERRIDE

General Assembly may override a veto by 2/3 vote and measure becomes law

Thanks for posting this..

So he has 40 days to decided what to do, pretty cool.

I do expect a VETO from Purdue because he's an idiot, but hope we can get a veto override..

You are welcome. I expect the opposite.

GlocksForGoons
04-28-2008, 15:31
When exactly will we all know if this has been signed or vetoed?

GeorgiaGlocker
04-29-2008, 06:02
When exactly will we all know if this has been signed or vetoed?

May 14th to veto

GeorgiaGlocker
04-29-2008, 15:30
This is a condensed version of Mayor Shirley Franklin's news conference from Thursday. In this video it picks out several statements (lies) made by several people supporting her stance and the rebuttal to those statements.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2566480899153418287&h1=en

GeorgiaGlocker
04-30-2008, 11:02
Here are two letters. The first one is from the Georgia Restaurant Association's attorney asking the Governor to veto HB 89.

The second letter is from GCO's attorney representing GCO's response.

www.georgiacarry.com/press_release/restaurantletter.pdf

www.georgiacarry.com/press_release/Gov%20Perdue%204-29-08.pdf

bradp
05-01-2008, 18:24
I am so glad I now live in Indiana instead of GA. Indiana is MUCH more gun friendly.

Buckaroo
05-01-2008, 22:10
I am so glad I now live in Indiana instead of GA. Indiana is MUCH more gun friendly.

Yes, but I still have family in GA and like to visit them at times.

I sent Gov. Perdue an email, fax and called his office today to make sure he knows how I feel about HB89.

Buckaroo

bradp
05-04-2008, 07:45
I used to live in Conyers and always carried while I was there too. I'll do the same to help out the Georgians.

thooks
05-12-2008, 10:59
The countdown is on...

Buckaroo
05-12-2008, 21:24
I for one am watching...

GlocksForGoons
05-13-2008, 11:28
*Crossing Fingers*

FillYerHands
05-13-2008, 11:54
Any odds makers? What's the chance he will sign, or at least not veto?

thatpilottech
05-13-2008, 18:25
2:1 odds that he will not sign the bill, and will not veto it either.

I look at it this way, if he vetos the bill he has resigned himself to political suicide, and this will be the last office that he will ever hold.

IF he does NOTHING, and just lets it become law he is playing both sides of the fence, so to speak. He will retain his NRA rating, and he will avoid becoming the whipping boy for both the restaurant industry and the NRA, who should both just leave him alone if he just lets it become law.

IF he signs the thing, he has already lost some favor with the NRA for taking sooo freakin long to do anything already, and he has nothing to gain by placing his signature on the bill

SO...My money is on him ust letting it become law and letting all of the wussies who are opposed to it fight it out in court, which they will ultimately lose, just as they have in every other state they have fought legislation like this.

SO, I live in Tennessee (where we have our own problems with our house speaker) except that if a bill like this came across our governor's desk (a Democrat) he would likely sign it......sigh......

I do like being able to travel, as liberal as Pennsylvania is becoming, the past two weeks that I have spent there have been great, as there are so few off limits places. This week in Colorado is a similar situation.

Carry often and carry safe!

thooks
05-14-2008, 07:34
A news clip this morning on the radio had him saying that the veto pen won't be getting much of a workout, due to the excellent actions by our lawmakers *choke, puke, cough*


Let's hope he either signs it or it has gotten lost and it takes effect. That way Soulja Gurl won't be hopping a train and actin a fool agin.

ol' scott
05-14-2008, 13:01
Can he veto up until midnight?

thooks
05-14-2008, 13:31
Can he veto up until midnight?



Yeah. Midnight is the end of the day.

jlrjhr
05-14-2008, 13:44
I just heard on FOX NEWS that Sonny signed it!

GeorgiaGlocker
05-14-2008, 14:20
Here is a link to the Governor's offices' press release. Click on link at top "currrent press releases", then click on the top link.

http://gov.georgia.gov/00/press/detail/0,2668,78006749_112654855_113508277,00.html

thooks
05-14-2008, 15:17
Wooooohooo!!!!!!!!!!


Hot Damn. Souja Gurl betta watch out. Granny gonna pull a gat on her now!

thooks
05-14-2008, 15:19
Please hit this poll and vote YES. The correct answer is YES.


(multiple votes allowed, btw)


http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/05/14/bills_0515.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

hemidan
05-14-2008, 15:19
I guess it must be true if it's on the governors website.
If that is the case; we must thank him for his common sense and for looking out for those of us that chose to protect ourselves, loved ones, friends, and under the right circumstances the sheep.

GeorgiaGlocker
05-14-2008, 17:51
I plan on calling the Governor's office first thing tomorow morning to "Thank Him."

bradp
05-14-2008, 19:37
Good for you guys!!!

thooks
05-14-2008, 19:38
No doubt the bombardment of the CITIZENS calling him urging him to SIGN IT is what made the difference, versus the lobbyists and scumbag politicians.

king-of-typos-91
05-14-2008, 21:15
I'm happy he did the correct thing and signed it in to law, the bad news is we now have to wait until July 1 2008 to start carrying, I guess that's not that bad.

That day can't come fast enough for me.

FillYerHands
05-15-2008, 05:29
I am pleasantly surprised that he signed it. I guess he listened to reason for once. As opposed to the car insurance bill. Oh, well.

What chaps me is listening to the news this morning. When they finally did report the signing, they had some woman from a "gun safety" group telling us that all Georgia requires is $15 and a fingerprint check to get your license. For one thing it's $23 plus the GBI fee, and for another, I guess she wants us to think the "fingerprint check" involves making sure you have whorls, not a NCIS background check. Ah, the media.

Buckaroo
05-15-2008, 10:14
Wow, I was not sure he would sign it. I thought he might just allow it to become law w/o a signature.

Good for you, us and him!

Buckaroo

Buckaroo
05-15-2008, 10:16
Please hit this poll and vote YES. The correct answer is YES.


(multiple votes allowed, btw)


http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/05/14/bills_0515.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

Yes 71.06% 3182
No 27.36% 1225
Undecided 1.59% 71