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Biscuitsjam
03-21-2008, 15:05
What would it be?

Take all pay and associated benefits out of the equation. Ignore prestige, job opportunities after the military, or what your family would think. If you could be any rank, which one would you choose?

Would it be:

A specialist, enough time in service to avoid the bad details, but low enough in rank to avoid having to take much responsibility?

A Captain, with his own company?

A Lieutenant General, with enough power to make real changes?

A First Sergeant, the top enlisted guy in a company?

A buck Sergeant, in charge of a group of enlisted soldiers, making things happen?

A Chief Warrant Officer, "the best rank in the army."

BADSBSNF81
03-21-2008, 21:13
LTC for me.

jerryd
03-22-2008, 17:20
WO 4 No one can mess with you!

slyjackalope
03-22-2008, 17:38
Major General, since that's as high as I can go in the JAG Corps.

the iceman
03-22-2008, 17:53
COL (P) would be perfect!

Wyocop
03-22-2008, 18:43
CW4.....on an SF ODA.

For officers I think LTC is as good as it gets. Everything before battalion command seems to lead up to it and prepare an officer for it. Everything after battalion command seems to take an officer farther and farther away from really leading troops by example.

Keep in mind that my perspective is that of a former fire team leader. Many officers may not agree. But I'll tell you this: I really felt and was influenced by my battalion commander's personality and policies on a daily basis; I knew very little about my brigade and division commanders at all.

Similar for NCOs. I felt the influence of my BN CSM but I knew very little about CSMs above that level. I wasn't really aware of CSMs above battalion level on a daily basis.

SIGSAREBETTER
03-22-2008, 19:28
Drill sergeant.

"Beat your face PRIVATE! Beat your face!

AF-Odin
03-22-2008, 23:41
I think it was in one of Tom Clancy's novels when a group of CIA agents were going somewhere posing as military officers and they wanted to decide what rank they would pose as and the decision was to be LTCs. The reasoning was that this rank was high enough that most people showed deference and did not want to mess with you, but it was not high enough that it caused undue excitement and concern from folks like the protocol office. Actually, though, LTC is great for what was stated above, you are still at the tip of leading be it in the Army and Marines as a battalion commander or in the AF as a squadron commander. You are really still close enough to the troops, yet you are at a point where you can be a major decision maker and hopefully screen the troops from the "good idea fairy." Understanding that ALL officer ranks have politics involved, as a battalion/squadron commander, you can avoid most (especially if you really don;t care about making O-6 and just want to do the job and take care of the troops).

jolly roger
03-23-2008, 19:40
Command Sergeant Major. Nobody fs with a CSM

the iceman
03-23-2008, 23:09
I'd jsut like to wear the old shiny "general belt!" :whistling:

fourdeuce2
03-24-2008, 12:13
Command Sergeant Major. Nobody fs with a CSM

Not always true. When I was at Fort Benning, our Battalion CSM decided he didn't like me(I was a SSG), so he told the 1SG to move me from the job the he(the 1SG) had put me in. The 1SG told the CSM if he wanted to come and run the company he could and the 1SG would go run the battalion(Gotta admire that 1SG :tongueout:). The CSM didn't like it, but he was in the wrong, there.
Anyway, he eventually got rid of the 1SG and put another one in, and got his wishes, but not much later it was recommended to him that he should retire(and I went back to the job I was doing before he came along).:tongueout:

MSgt Dotson
03-24-2008, 19:00
a retired 4 star General with 30 years in servicel? :-)

the iceman
03-25-2008, 00:34
a retired 4 star General with 30 years in servicel? :-)

Just as long as you're not Wesley Clark!

Crusher47
03-25-2008, 09:40
Full bird Colonel

xxiv
03-27-2008, 11:29
CPL, fire team leader. Still a trigger puller/troop director hybrid. Squad leader on up you become more of a full time director of your two fire teams and hardly ever focus on laying in on fire dropping targets.

AKJD
03-29-2008, 11:38
The ones I enjoyed the most were Squad Leader, Recon Squad Leader, LRSD Team Leader and First Sergeant.

KG Dad
03-30-2008, 18:20
Major General, since that's as high as I can go in the JAG Corps.

Ah, yes, the humility of Maj. Gen Enoch Crowder, the Army JAG during WWI. Recommended for promotion to Lieutenant General for his work as JAG, Provost Marshal, etc., he declined since he led no troops in battle and other general officers were not attaining the 3-star rank. Unfortunately, he set a precedent and politics being what they are, the JAG will be a two-star for the indefinite future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Crowder

LTC, since that's where I'll top out.

MJH, another JAG

Hal9mm
03-31-2008, 10:54
without the pay and all the other BS E-5 Team Leader. You have your little team, no one
bothers you with too much admin crap and u just do your job.

11P&Y
04-15-2008, 20:41
Any possible...a full bird. They make alot of desicions that affect the soldiers the most and in my opinion, happy soldiers make max performance a reality.

AK_Stick
04-16-2008, 13:26
CW-2


Not a W-3 or -4 so they're not going to put you in charge. Not a -1 so they trust you. And you get paid to break a helicopter.


Or E-6. You're above Sgt, so you get to tell them what needs to be done, and not have to actually conduct the actual menial task, yet you're low enough that you can get away with being one of the guys still.

MP1SG
04-17-2008, 13:18
Drill sergeant.

DS is not a rank, it is a position or duty.

I'd keep my diamond!

Blitzer
04-17-2008, 14:51
Sergeant major. :supergrin:

LUNG-G19
04-17-2008, 15:04
:mallninja:

What is the ranking system for a mall ninja?

hotrod26
04-17-2008, 16:05
The best rank I every held was 1SG. You are still able to interact with the troops on a professional basis and don't have to put up with alot of the politics that a CSM does. Diamonds are forever!

rumaco
04-22-2008, 11:21
I retired with 26 years as a CW4 (P).

The differance in commissioned and Warrants is simple:

Commissioned means it is put into service

Warrant means it is guaranteed to work!

During my two tours in Vietnam (I Corp) the dangerous flights were always flown by Warrant Officers.......................wonder why?

bluegrassboy
04-23-2008, 17:28
I'm a LTC now.....I often look at my CSM and wish I was his rank.....to me any soldier with three stripes up and three stripes down that has something in the middle....either a diamond or a star....gets more respect than I do....and probably deserves it....heck, who am I fooling.....definitely deserves it....

benfur
05-09-2008, 13:05
E4 sham sheild

AH-1
05-21-2008, 10:04
best rank I held was sp/5.E-5 pay without the bs:cool:.
pete

Broadside
05-21-2008, 14:18
Commander in Chief

I guess that isn't in the Army, but it is a rank.

hotrod26
05-21-2008, 15:35
First Sergeant!

Dean
05-21-2008, 15:59
I can have any rank I want?
I'll take "Specialist - 9" in the Army.

That way nobody can tell me nothing and everybody will leave me alone.
They don't have Spec9s anymore? Okay. Give me "Warrant - 5" in the Marines.

That way, nobody can tell me what to do and I don't have to sit in meeting about nothing all day like the O-3s and O-4s.

GreenBeret1631
05-21-2008, 21:46
ODA Team Sgt. (MSG E-8) in the USSF :supergrin:

bennwj
06-01-2008, 07:52
What would it be?

Take all pay and associated benefits out of the equation. Ignore prestige, job opportunities after the military, or what your family would think. If you could be any rank, which one would you choose?

Would it be:

A specialist, enough time in service to avoid the bad details, but low enough in rank to avoid having to take much responsibility?

A Captain, with his own company?

A Lieutenant General, with enough power to make real changes?

A First Sergeant, the top enlisted guy in a company?

A buck Sergeant, in charge of a group of enlisted soldiers, making things happen?

A Chief Warrant Officer, "the best rank in the army."


This may sound odd from somebody who is heading to the Sergeants Major Academy at the end of this month but my favorite rank was SSG.

I had more fun as a Sapper Squad Leader than all my other jobs put together. I was also a Drill Sergeant as a SSG and I enjoyed that job as well. The hours sucked and it was stressful trying to balance work and family, but I liked it.

I would never be a Commissioned Officer. I could write a book on that subject

Klebanoff
06-02-2008, 21:43
Command Sergent Major, since based on my recollection they don't really do anything expect "drink coffee and growl."

For most of my term of service I wondered why the army even had CSMs. After all, they don't really seem to have any real job other than to gripe at first sergeants. Eventually I decided it was just a position they give to whomever has persevered through all the other army BS to the point where they deserve it.

21tango
06-07-2008, 03:08
ATL on a tactical psyop team CPL or SGT. Best job in the army 3 man team with lots of cool toys.