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Adjustment screws in the aluminum trigger to adjust overtravel, pretravel. Short reset, crisp break, 1.5 lbs.
Who makes it, or did you design it?
Scott
It's a glockworx prototype. Official announcement hopefully in a week.
I have been hoping for a while that someone would finally come out with a trigger for Glock that did not include the "trigger tab" (which I consider useless). I posted a question in the BrianEnos.com forum of whether or not it was available and many people went ballistic about someone wanting to "tamper with a safety device".
The trigger is clearly not legal for Production division nor for IDPA, but it is nice to have the option for an Open or Limited gun. IMO Glockworx may need to round up the edges a bit but, overall it is a good design and I hope they do well with it.
The production triggers (not production as in uspsa class) will have the trigger safety. Though the trigger safety will mate entirely into the trigger so you don't feel it unlike the stock trigger. My prototype did not have a trigger safety because the new trigger safety springs have not come in yet. The trigger safety will use an actual spring so you can even adjust the way that feels also.
I like that! With my 35, it could be a winning combo!
Oh wanted to add it's hard to see in the picture but the face of the trigger has rounded corners but the majority of the face is flat. The trigger safety will be wide also. When the safety is depressed it is completly flush with the trigger face.
Is the trigger bar included? Has the location of where the trigger attaches to the bar different from stock? Has the length shape of the trigger and/or trigger bar been altered to minimize take up? Price?
Yes the trigger comes with the bar. The bar is modified and polished. I have been instructed not to discuss price until the official announcement is made but it is very competitive with what other are offering their trigger kits for.
Take up/pre travel is adjusted with a set screw in the aluminum trigger. They come pre set removing 80% of the pretravel. You may adjust it more or less to your preference. The trigger is pinned to the stock location on the trigger bar.
Singlestack Wonder
03-31-2008, 20:44
Is the striker safety plunger not engaged when the pre-travel is removed?
Also, is that an SJC comp?
Is the striker safety plunger not engaged when the pre-travel is removed?
I'm guessing here, but I'm going to say no.
The GW trigger in my 34 moves about half the amount of the factory one (There's about 1/16" of pretravel) and the plunger is at rest when it's fully forward. It begins to move as soon as you touch the trigger, but it's not deactivated.
The safety plunger is not depressed until the trigger is pulled. You can remove all the pre travel out of the trigger and this would still be the case.
The comp is a glockworx.
Suburban
04-04-2008, 11:24
It looks like the GW aluminum trigger has the same profile as the Glock plastic trigger. I never bought any of the metal triggers on the market because the profile was different than what I'd be running on my other Glocks.
Good call. This could be pretty huge for Limited, Open, Steel, and pin shooters who can't afford gunsmith work.
Well the profile is similar. The curve of the trigger is the same. The trigger face is wider and more flat. It is not a rounded face like the stock glock trigger though the edges of the GW trigger face is rounded. The safety is 3x as thick.
I should have pictures of the pre production triggers shortly. Hoping to make an official announcement on the 15th.
There are also plans for a strait trigger, with just a slight bend at the tip.
Singlestack Wonder
04-05-2008, 19:12
The safety plunger is not depressed until the trigger is pulled. You can remove all the pre travel out of the trigger and this would still be the case.
The comp is a glockworx.
Is the trigger housing trigger cruciform ledge extended so that when the pre-travel is removed, the cruciform is still on a ledge requiring the trigger to be pulled further back to allow it to drop, or is the drop safety defeated?
The safety plunger is not depressed until the trigger is pulled. You can remove all the pre travel out of the trigger and this would still be the case.
My experience indicates otherwise.
It's pretty easy to look through the empty magwell and see if the safety plunger is being engaged or not.
The trigger bar is modfied. All Glock safeties are functional.
Glockmeister40
04-13-2008, 20:09
How close is this to being in production ? I have an Open G35 that would really love one of these :)
glockman2000
04-16-2008, 23:20
It's been two weeks since the initial post about this trigger...when is this trigger going to be announced. Any idea how much it is going to cost?
Any reason to wait for this versus buying an LS trigger?
We are just waiting on the trigger safety springs from our spring vendor. It sucks as we are on any day status and I must get a 20 emails and 20 calls a day. You will kick yourself if you get another trigger and not wait.
I can wait. I look forward to seeing it!
My experience indicates otherwise.
It's pretty easy to look through the empty magwell and see if the safety plunger is being engaged or not.
The GW kit in my G34 (no fancy new trigger, just the $199 drop-in) begins to move the plunger about 1/32" after you touch the trigger. But it is definitely not depressed with the trigger forward.
With regards to the drop safety, the left ear of the cruciform is overlapping the 'drop saftey' portion of the trigger housing by about 1/16"-1/8" with the trigger at rest.
I field-stripped a gun with a GW trigger in it and looked at it long and hard before I decided to buy one myself, as I had a hard time swallowing the idea that you could mass-produce a trigger kit with drastically reduced pretravel that didn't annihilate all the safeties.
All of mine function. If I could figure out a safe way to drop-test the gun, I would love to, just for peace-of-mind sake should I fumble it someday. Since that's pretty much impossible... I'm *confident* the gun is drop-safe, but not *certain*.
I'm happy with the product I received for my $$$ ... Your mileage may vary.
jbirds1210
04-24-2008, 09:36
All of mine function. If I could figure out a safe way to drop-test the gun, I would love to, just for peace-of-mind sake should I fumble it someday. Since that's pretty much impossible... I'm *confident* the gun is drop-safe, but not *certain*.
Just stick a snap cap in it (little black marker on the primer portion) and check it after the fall.
Jason
Just stick a snap cap in it (little black marker on the primer portion) and check it after the fall.
Jason
That's the easy part I don't think he wants to purposely drop his gun muzzle down.
Whats the word on this prototype trigger? Its been a while since it was suppossed to hit the market.
yeah we hit a delay. We are at the mercy of our spring vendor, and there was a minor correction on the safety that had to be made for cosmetic reasons. I do have a working trigger with the safety that I should take a picture of. It is really really cool.
Dammit Ray post the pic!!! Ive been checkin your site every day eagerly awaiting the triggers release. You guys had a picture up on your site for like a day and a half and then took it down for whatever reason. Keep us posted man, im holding off on getting the LS aluminum trigger in favor of yours.
sorry my man. I'm running out to ship some orders. Will have some nice trigger pics as soon as I get back. Give me maybe an hour
I actually just spoke to you on the phone I believe. Changed my shipping from priority mail to USPS 2 day, and said the GW rear plate would be in in a couple days. Since youre shipping my order you take as much time as you need:supergrin:. Im lookin forward to the pics!
click here for big version http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/TN_GW001.JPG (http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/GW001.JPG)
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click here for big version http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/TN_GW003.JPG (http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/GW003.JPG)
click here for big version http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/TN_GW004.JPG (http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/GW004.JPG)
Regular glockworx trigger for comparison. Again these is a pre production model so it is not cosmetically perfect. It sure does feel nice though.
Again cliff notes New Glockworx Aluminum trigger. Two set screws in the trigger to adjust pre-travel and over travel. Depending on your slide to frame fit you can get a crisp 1.5 lbs pull. Oh the reset is pretty damn short too.
Looks great. Any idea what the price is and when it will be released?
I was asked not to disclose price but it will be a little more than our present kit because of the extra expense in the manufacture. We think most people will just order the trigger bar as opposed to a kit because you no longer need the trigger/ejector housing that the set screw goes into to adjust overtravel.
We are hoping for another week to begin shipping and taking orders but I've been saying that for a month now. I must get 20 calls and emails a day "What's up with the trigger, can I order one!" I guess there are worse problems to have.
Oh forgot to mention triggers will be avaliable in all black, black w/ red safety, all silver, and or w/ titanium nitrate trigger bar.
Whats the benefit of the titanium Nitride trigger bar? Weight reduction?
Smoother, more wear resistant, looks cool as it's gold color for that bling bling. You really got to see it to appreciate it. The trigger bars are high polished then they get TiN. They look so good I might even start cleaning my glock.
Remember the picture posted are a pre production sample that we are testing. The samples have cosmetic flaws because we have been shooting the piss out of them and then wrenching on them, then shooting the piss out of them, then making slight refinements.
We are so close. I dropped of another huge ziplock of polished trigger bars at the plater for TiN. It's going to be real cool when these things make it out to the matches in numbers.
Sounds great man, i cant wait!
oh wait i owe you a tracking number don't I, I got all sidetracked.
No worries. I actually forgot all about it with all the new trigger talk. PM sent
Man, I am ready to buy a couple of them as kits to drop into a G35 and G24 I have.
The trigger will fit all 9mm, 40, and 357 sig glocks. We will have a 45/10mm shortly afterwards. Same trigger just a different trigger bar.
Suburban
05-08-2008, 12:08
Looking good, as Freddy Prince used to say.
TiN plating the bar was a good idea.
well getting closer. Check the site.
The site looks awesome! Are you planning on adding anything to the custom slides tab? The slides in the trigger photos look great!
well getting closer. Check the site.
tried to check your sig links, but 2 out of 3 dont work, and the third one i dont see the trigger information so i dont know where to check? :crying:
Trigger info-ENJOY:supergrin:
http://www.glockwarehouse.com/
it's almost month end- are we there yet?
Not quite there. It is killing us as much as it is killing people waiting to order. Waiting on the retail packaging. Did the final proof read on the installation instructions and they are at the printers (this is a more involved installation/adjustment. Adjustments are made with 1/32nd turns of the set screws.) A few of us sat through a installation demonstration from our gunsmith. He made a point of telling me to pay attention as I'm probably going to get to do the phone support for this.
We are still on track for the end of the month to ship these and will probably make an announcement and take pre orders just prior. I can't wait as I get a dozen phone calls a day about the trigger.
Well please update here or on OT!!
Decided I need to blow some $$ on my G34.
I think I know the answer, but is this trigger USPSA Production and IDPA SSP legal? I would say yes because trigger work is allowed, but I'm not sure because there isn't supposed to be any difference in appearance. Or something like that. Thanks!
I think I know the answer, but is this trigger USPSA Production and IDPA SSP legal? I would say yes because trigger work is allowed, but I'm not sure because there isn't supposed to be any difference in appearance. Or something like that. Thanks!
Definitely not legal as it would count as an "external modification." Trigger material is different, face is different, pivot pin location might be different from stock, etc.
Definitely not legal as it would count as an "external modification." Trigger material is different, face is different, pivot pin location might be different from stock, etc.
I understand what your're saying, but wouldn't using different triggers in CDP or Single Stack be allowed? I've always interpreted external modifications as grip reductions, stippling, slide lightning, etc.
Suburban
06-07-2008, 14:14
I understand what your're saying, but wouldn't using different triggers in CDP or Single Stack be allowed? I've always interpreted external modifications as grip reductions, stippling, slide lightning, etc.
Yes, but 1911s are not allowed in SSP or Production, regardless of how they shipped from the factory. You should be able to use the GW trigger in ESP, CDP, Limited, Limited-10, or Open, as long as all the safeties are functional. Any divisions but SSP and Production, basically.
Yes, but 1911s are not allowed in SSP or Production, regardless of how they shipped from the factory. You should be able to use the GW trigger in ESP, CDP, Limited, Limited-10, or Open, as long as all the safeties are functional. Any divisions but SSP and Production, basically.
This may be a whole different can of worms and also an irrelevan issue to the thread at hand but... I think that you can disable the trigger safety for Limited, L-10 and Open.
Cysoto is right. There's no USPSA rule that says all safeties have to function. Most folks with 1911s pin the grip safety. The aftermarket trigger should be legal in Limited, L-10, and Open, but definitely not Production. Relocating the pivot pin on factory trigger and shaving the back of the safety tab in the trigger have been ruled "external modifications" in USPSA, so I doubt there's anyway this new trigger is legal for production.
Speedrock
06-08-2008, 16:29
May be Blind?
But, exactly where are the adj. screws?
Hope the T-Bar is not drilled full of holes like that old Novak HG Outlet thing! :whistling:
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http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/FT-B-WR-NEW-1.jpg
http://madtrigger.net/images/GW/FT-GRP-1.jpg
Some pictures of the Fulcrum trigger.
That looks like the hot set up for open and limited. How much?
blownhemi
06-08-2008, 21:24
Available yet?
If it is available to order a pistol from the factory with this trigger installed doesn't that make it production legal? Such as, if it came stock on the 34 and 35's?
If it is available to order a pistol from the factory with this trigger installed doesn't that make it production legal? Such as, if it came stock on the 34 and 35's?
For USPSA, that, plus making enough of them, plus filing the right paperwork. But Glock doesn't, so what are you getting at?
Flexmoney
06-18-2008, 23:51
This may be a whole different can of worms and also an irrelevan issue to the thread at hand but... I think that you can disable the trigger safety for Limited, L-10 and Open.
I don't agree. (and I may be the one making the call at matches)
Glockmeister40
06-20-2008, 11:43
Does it really matter if it is legal or not? It looks as if it is never going to be available :)
Does it really matter if it is legal or not? It looks as if it is never going to be available :)
I’m hearing July 1st we will have start shipment. We are assembling the triggers now and will be filming a installation video on Monday for the web site.
I emailed them yesterday and thats what they wrote to me about this.
For USPSA, that, plus making enough of them, plus filing the right paperwork. But Glock doesn't, so what are you getting at?
I didn't read/comprehend completely when I posted, I thought this was a "Glock, protoype trigger" as in from glock which means you could order it allready in the gun...but obviously I was mistaken.
I am happy to say that today is the day.
I am happy to say that today is the day.
none say they fit a g27 :(
it's the same as the Glock 22
I'll add the option in
it's the same as the Glock 22
I'll add the option in
sick man thanks!!!
i went from :( to :) again
G27 added. I'll go through and make sure we have all the various gun models later. We have a kit for everything but the G36 and the slim frames which will be real soon.
G27 added. I'll go through and make sure we have all the various gun models later. We have a kit for everything but the G36 and the slim frames which will be real soon.
and a video soon of installation for us fools who have no idea :whistling:
yeah we are going to talk about the trigger this weekend at the range. For the short time mabe we'll get the pdf of the installation instruction so people can get an idea of the install process. It's not difficult but your going to really want to sit down and get it dialed in ****. Only have to do it once, but it is really really worth it.
Would you consider this ok for a carry gun?
kglocker
06-25-2008, 14:58
Would you consider this ok for a carry gun?
I wouldn't mess with the trigger on a carry gun...at least, not to this extent.
Agreed. A good polish and connector change should suffice for a carry gun.
Suburban
06-28-2008, 16:07
Will there be a fulcrum trigger package with a lightened firing pin? I'm looking for a full set to do another pistol, and it would be nice to get a little discount on the package. Edit: Nevermind. I clicked the "Trigger Gear" link and found it.
Model 20 isn't on the pull down menu either. Same trigger bar as the 21.
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