WooHoo! M2 Carbine is Here!

[Ragnar]

Yessssss! Just picked up my Inland M2 Carbine today. Only took 7 weeks :upeyes: to process the Form 4.

Now to clean it, check it, and shoot it> :cool:

[USMCsilver]

Now to clean it, check it, and shoot it> :cool:

Uhh, you forgot, "and take pictures of it".

[Ragnar]

Uhh, you forgot, "and take pictures of it".

OK, OK, here they are.

[M2 Carbine]

Ragnar, you probably already know this but at the next gun show pick up some spare parts, like a bolt and slide.

The M2 is a little hard on parts.
I've got a large Zip Lock bag full of broken and worn out parts, even a receiver.

And check the piston nut every time you clean the rifle. If the nut is loose the housing can crack.

Have fun.:supergrin:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Video/th_P1010099.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Video/?action=view&current=P1010099.flv)

[Ragnar]

Ragnar, you probably already know this but at the next gun show pick up some spare parts, like a bolt and slide.

The M2 is a little hard on parts.
I've got a large Zip Lock bag full of broken and worn out parts, even a receiver.

And check the piston nut every time you clean the rifle. If the nut is loose the housing can crack.

Have fun.:supergrin:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Video/th_P1010099.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Video/?action=view&current=P1010099.flv)


Thanks. I think I'm covered for the normal parts. I've got four M1s to cann if I really have to. Where do I pick up parts like the sear, sear lever, etc.?

[Ragnar]

M2 Carbine,

Got any good instructions for disassembly? I want to take the trigger group apart to clean everything, but even with the TM9 manual I'm not seeing how I remove the sear lever to get the trigger group off the receiver.

Also, is there some trick to removing the slide? I've got four M1s and none of them give me issues, but this M2 slide just isn't coming off.

[M2 Carbine]

Where do I pick up parts like the sear, sear lever, etc.?


You should find a big dealer in military parts at most big gun shows.
They will have most of the M2 parts but will not have all of them because if they have all the parts, trip lever, disconnecter, selector, etc, in their possession they have an illegal machine gun.
If nothing else get a couple extractors and a bolt tool. If the Carbine has a weak point, it's the extractor.

I want to take the trigger group apart to clean everything,
Personally I only take the trigger group apart when I absolutely have to. If I want a deep cleaning I spray it down good with WD40, let it sit for about 15 minutes and spray it out with a air hose. Then lube everything good with CLP or any good lube.

I'm not seeing how I remove the sear lever

By "sear lever" do you mean the lever that rides alongside the slide and trips the disconnecter for full auto fire?
I've always called that a trip lever (don't know where I got that name)

When you remove the Selector Spring and Selector the Sear Lever/pin will slide out to the right, freeing the trigger housing to be slid forward or backward and removed.
Watch the little disconnecter plunger/spring so it doesn't fly away. It rides on the bottom of the receiver and can come out as the trigger housing is removed from the receiver.

Also, is there some trick to removing the slide?

After you remove the trip lever the slide comes off the same as a M1. Some slides are a little tighter than others.
You did disconnect the back of the slide from the bolt and slot in the receiver?

[Ragnar]

By "sear lever" do you mean the lever that rides alongside the slide and trips the disconnecter for full auto fire?
I've always called that a trip lever (don't know where I got that name)

When you remove the Selector Spring and Selector the Sear Lever/pin will slide out to the right, freeing the trigger housing to be slid forward or backward and removed.
Watch the little disconnecter plunger/spring so it doesn't fly away. It rides on the bottom of the receiver and can come out as the trigger housing is removed from the receiver.



After you remove the trip lever the slide comes off the same as a M1. Some slides are a little tighter than others.
You did disconnect the back of the slide from the bolt and slot in the receiver?


Its not so much that I want to take the trigger group apart. I want to get the trigger housing off the receiver so I can clean everything well. If I can clean it really well without taking it apart I'll be happy with that. I don't generally take the t-group apart on my other M1s except for that first clean/inspect/service time. After that a little spray and dry is all I do.

[M2 Carbine]

Its not so much that I want to take the trigger group apart. I want to get the trigger housing off the receiver so I can clean everything well. If I can clean it really well without taking it apart I'll be happy with that. I don't generally take the t-group apart on my other M1s except for that first clean/inspect/service time. After that a little spray and dry is all I do.

I understand.

Just remove the selector spring, I use needle nose pliers, and slide the selector off the trip lever pin. Then pull the trip lever/pin out to the right.

The trip lever pin serves the same function as the pin that holds the trigger housing in place in your M1 Carbines.

[Ragnar]

I understand.

Just remove the selector spring, I use needle nose pliers, and slide the selector off the trip lever pin. Then pull the trip lever/pin out to the right.

The trip lever pin serves the same function as the pin that holds the trigger housing in place in your M1 Carbines.


Thanks for the help. Pulled that little spring and the rest just about fell off. By the way, should that spring be made of stainless steel? Mine looks like someone bent a paperclip to fit. Looks way out of place when all the other springs are black.

[M2 Carbine]

Thanks for the help. Pulled that little spring and the rest just about fell off. By the way, should that spring be made of stainless steel? Mine looks like someone bent a paperclip to fit. Looks way out of place when all the other springs are black.

Yes that spring is probably original. You might also pick up one or two of those to stick in your range box. It might save you a day of shooting if you were to tear down the rifle at the range and lose the spring.
A bolt tool, extractor, ejector and springs and plunger is also a good thing to have in your range box.
You might go a long time without breaking an extractor or be like me and break two in one week.

Is your M2 registered as a "conversion kit" or is the receiver registered?

[Ragnar]

Yes that spring is probably original. You might also pick up one or two of those to stick in your range box. It might save you a day of shooting if you were to tear down the rifle at the range and lose the spring.
A bolt tool, extractor, ejector and springs and plunger is also a good thing to have in your range box.
You might go a long time without breaking an extractor or be like me and break two in one week.

Is your M2 registered as a "conversion kit" or is the receiver registered?


The receiver. Inland-Saginaw 189XXXX.

Just curious at this point, but is it "better" to be registered as the kit or the receiver? Seems interesting to me that there is a difference.

[M2 Carbine]

The receiver. Inland-Saginaw 189XXXX.

Just curious at this point, but is it "better" to be registered as the kit or the receiver? Seems interesting to me that there is a difference.

The Conversion Kit is perpetual. Anything that might wear out or break is easily replaced.
The Conversion Kit can be installed in most M1 Carbines, making them select fire.
This is an exception to the "once a machine gun always a machine gun" rule.
When the Conversion is removed the host Carbine is again a M1.


When the M2 Carbine receiver is registered, if it wears out or breaks beyound repair then the gun no longer exists.


There's other examples of "Conversion Kits".
A friend registered one for the UZI in 1985.

[DriBak]

Complaining about 7 weeks............Form 4's used to take 7 MONTHS :)

[Ragnar]

Complaining about 7 weeks............Form 4's used to take 7 MONTHS :)


Well, as an AF Intel guy with 24 years of service, a TS/SCI+ clearance, and at least 6 sets of fingerprints already on file with the FBI, CIA, DoD, GBI, TX DPS, and the AF, it should have taken roughly 3 minutes to issue.

[Scarecrow28]

Very nice rifle! Get MORE pictures when you get around to shooting it.