IDPA firearms

[Calculated]

What kind of pistol are you guys shooting in IDPA CDP division?

[Duck of Death]

SSP w/either a G26 or a G17.

Edited: sorry, didn't see you were asking about CDP.

[Epizza]

I shoot my Glock 21 in CDP.

[Calculated]

I shoot my Glock 21 in CDP.

Really, I thought it had to be a 1911 platform in CDP? Goes to show how much I know.

[sidewinder6]

CDP is .45 with 8+1 limit. The G21 is capable of shooting in any of three, SSP, ESP, and CDP. You can download your mags and shoot CDP and have a reliability advantage. :rofl:

[Calculated]

So, I don't have to go purchase a $2k 1911 to shoot CDP? GREAT!!!

[sidewinder6]

Ah, $2k would be considered Medium grade.

Yup, get your 21 and smoke those boys out. You will spot them running all the malfunction drills.

Just kidding...

[DLebowski]

I have a Colt Gold Cup that I have shot in CDP before, but I turn in better times when I use my G30, with no drop off in accuracy.

I shoot my G34 in SSP. It's like cheating.

[Clyde]

Colt 1991A1 :supergrin:

[WellArmedSheep]

G17 in SSP.

[RH45]

I've used my Gold Cup, Les Baer, Para P14,and my commander-size, STI 2011(double stack too)

I recently picked up an STI Eagle which I plan to use this year.

[Gary G23]

M&p-45 & Xd-45

[mike4045]

STI Spartan for CDP with Wilson mags.

[Hozer]

STI single stack.

[Solid]

CDP is .45 with 8+1 limit. The G21 is capable of shooting in any of three, SSP, ESP, and CDP. You can download your mags and shoot CDP and have a reliability advantage. :rofl:

So Glock 21SF = Ultimate IDPA gun?

[matt m]

Kimber Classic Stainless LE (1997 model)

[sidewinder6]

So Glock 21SF = Ultimate IDPA gun?

Baiting :upeyes: (joking)

I dont think there is such a thing actually. The old cliche' is "its not the Arrow, its the Indian"

But,,, I do see alot of malfunctions on the 1911's. (Dont bash me, I am an old 1911 guy myself)

[ecmills]

I shoot my G34 in SSP. It's like cheating.
It would be, if 80% of the other shooters weren't using one as well.

[Joe D]

I shoot a single stack 5.3" .45 ACP Glock in CDP.

[RH45]

I shoot a single stack 5.3" .45 ACP Glock in CDP.

I'm guessing you have a Techwell, or SVI magwell on it too??:supergrin::supergrin:

[Joe D]

It is a prototype gun Glock sent me to try. It pays to have friends in high places at Glock.

[RH45]

It is a prototype gun Glock sent me to try. It pays to have friends in high places at Glock.

It pays to have friends in high places anywhere!

[gary newport]

Ah, $2k would be considered Medium grade.

Yup, get your 21 and smoke those boys out. You will spot them running all the malfunction drills.

Just kidding...

:rofl: Yes, I do enjoy watching those 1911 Moments... since I'm using my G21SF in IDPA CDP!

[gary newport]

I shoot a single stack 5.3" .45 ACP Glock in CDP.

:wow: That sounds suspiciously like a Practical/Tactical .45 model, Joe -- except for the (disappointing) bit about being a single-stack! I understand that you probably can't say much about it without incurring the wrath of Gaston and Robert...but feel free to tell us anything you CAN divulge! :whistling:

One question: is it based on the old G21 or the new G21SF (in single-stack, of course) or goes it have a completely different grip (the shape of the backstrap is what I'm most interested in).

[HighVelocity]

I shoot a single stack 5.3" .45 ACP Glock in CDP.

Really? :shocked:

[sidewinder6]

:rofl: Yes, I do enjoy watching those 1911 Moments... since I'm using my G21SF in IDPA CDP!

:whistling: They spend soooo much on them and they have such a nice trigger break and then...

[GRR]

It is a prototype gun Glock sent me to try. It pays to have friends in high places at Glock.

You told me you had to send it back 2 months ago! (Its too much like a G36 to me, anyway. Not Glocky enough). I was suprised that it came with two McCormick mags.

[HighVelocity]

:wow: I really want to see this 5" singlestack Glock 45. REALLY!

[robert7355]

stock G34 in SSP

[Joe D]

Glock will not allow me to post any pictures.

[gary newport]

Glock will not allow me to post any pictures.

How about descriptions? :whistling:

[mitommy]

It is a prototype gun Glock sent me to try. It pays to have friends in high places at Glock.

The idea of a "prototype" being used in competition seems to go against the intention that IDPA not becoming a equipment race sport.

[24D]

I shoot a Valtro 1998-A1 (AKA 1911).

[Jim Watson]

The idea of a "prototype" being used in competition seems to go against the intention that IDPA not becoming a equipment race sport.

But that's what makes it a CUSTOM Defensive Pistol. It doesn't meet the production requirements for SSP.

[gary newport]

But that's what makes it a CUSTOM Defensive Pistol. It doesn't meet the production requirements for SSP.

Jim, have you seen this pistol? Are you sworn to secrecy too or could you tell us something about it?

[Jim Watson]

No, Joe doesn't even let his wife shoot it. He shot through the State last Friday in a hailstorm so as to not let it be seen by unauthorized personnel. Empty holster on Saturday when the main match went on.

[gary newport]

No, Joe doesn't even let his wife shoot it. He shot through the State last Friday in a hailstorm so as to not let it be seen by unauthorized personnel. Empty holster on Saturday when the main match went on.

:wow: Sounds like what we in the defense industry call a "black" program, for sure. :cool:

[mpolans]

Wow, some people really fell for that one...

[gary newport]

Wow, some people really fell for that one...

Do you mean that it's NOT true? :whistling:

[ecmills]

Of course it's not true. Amazing what some of you guys will buy... ;)

Funny to watch, though. :supergrin:

[Joe D]

Things were getting a little boring here.:whistling:

[gary newport]

Things were getting a little boring here.:whistling:

I suppose I'm just a trusting soul when I read something by such senior and esteemed GT members as Joe and Jim. :embarassed:

I promise to be more skeptical in the future.

(Actually, I was a bit suspicious of this from the beginning but decided to give Joe a chance to explain why he, and not Dave Sevigny, got to play with Glock's latest toy! :tongueout:)

[Hozer]

Thats because Dave is too busy playing with Glocks new carbine.

[gary newport]

Thats because Dave is too busy playing with Glocks new carbine.

:rofl: :tongueout:

[JonInWA]

Well...back on track...SIG-Sauer GSR XO for CDP, .40 Browning Hi-Power for ESP, and Glock 17, 19, and 21 for SSP (primarily the G17 to date; I'll be using my new G19 for the first time for IDPA this weekend, and I used my G21 in our state match last year, and was pleased with it, but with the price of .45 the way it is...

I've also used my Berettas (92D in 9mm and 8357 Cougar in .357 SIG), SIGs (P225 in 9mm and P229 in .40), Ruger P89 in 9mm, and even a restored pre-WWII P08 Luger in 9mm in SSP. I've had the best results, interestingly enough with the G17, G19, G21, and Ruger P89.

Best, Jon

[GMAN40]

Glock 21 for me in IDPA CDP and ESP

[Glenn E. Meyer]

SW 1911 Sc Commander. It's been running great lately. But you do get to practice malfunction drills with 1911s.

:supergrin:

[gary newport]

SW 1911 Sc Commander. It's been running great lately. But you do get to practice malfunction drills with 1911s.

:supergrin:

:shocked: Say it isn't so! (:cool:)

[Westicle]

glock 17 for SSP and a colt combat commander in 9mm for ESP

[B Coyote]

When I shoot CDP (which isn't often) I shoot my G21SF.

My "normal" IDPA gun is a G19, though my G34 is again starting to see range time.

bc

[skunkworks]

The idea of a "prototype" being used in competition seems to go against the intention that IDPA not becoming a equipment race sport.

As far as reading the rules, there doesn't seem to be a requirement that a gun have a certain minimum production number or are available to the public. Just that it meets the specs for a class. If for some reason you wanted to build your own, it seems like it is allowed. Am I mis-reading the rules.

If this got out of hand, IDPA could institute a claiming option whereby the winners gun could be claimed by any other competitor for some minimum price.

[Westicle]

As far as reading the rules, there doesn't seem to be a requirement that a gun have a certain minimum production number or are available to the public. Just that it meets the specs for a class. If for some reason you wanted to build your own, it seems like it is allowed. Am I mis-reading the rules.

If this got out of hand, IDPA could institute a claiming option whereby the winners gun could be claimed by any other competitor for some minimum price.


yes your misreading the rules, SSP rules as quoted Page 19 of rule book

Have a minimum annual production of 2000 units;
(discontinued models must have had a total production of
20,000 units)

[skunkworks]

yes your misreading the rules, SSP rules as quoted Page 19 of rule book

You are correct.

I should have clarified my statement, except for SSP, there doesn't seem to be a minimum production number.

The earlier discussion was about a pre-production gun in CDP and it seems in the rules that is allowed.

[huna koa]

USP45 Expert in CDP

[GMAN40]

Until yesterday I was using a G21 for IDPA. With the price of .45 ammo so high I went out and bought a G17.( I don't reload anymore.)

[JonInWA]

Unfortuntely, I have to agree with you-it's looking like a 9mm sort of year for me as well, for the same reason. I really enjoy my G21, and last year shot it at our IDPA State match and at all 3 divisions I competed in at a GSSF match, but this year if I use it for other than for familiarization refresher, it'll be at a local IDPA match (usually requiring only 100 rounds) or a local steel plate match (100 rounds) or a in a single GSSF division. The best loacl prices on .45 ACP hover around $30 for a box of 100 (Winchester Value Pack @ Wal-Mart) or $18 for a box of 50 rounds of CCI Blazer Aluminum at Sportsmans Warehouse...

Don't get me wrong, I tremendously enjoy my G17 and G19, and am competing better and better with them, setting a number of "personal bests" with them this year so far (last year, I did a GSSF "personal best" with the G21). I just liked being alternatively able to use my G21 reasonably economically on a regular basis, if I chose...


Best, Jon

[gary newport]

Unfortuntely, I have to agree with you-it's looking like a 9mm sort of year for me as well, for the same reason. I really enjoy my G21, and last year shot it at our IDPA State match and at all 3 divisions I competed in at a GSSF match, but this year if I use it for other than for familiarization refresher, it'll be at a local IDPA match (usually requiring only 100 rounds) or a local steel plate match (100 rounds) or a in a single GSSF division. The best loacl prices on .45 ACP hover around $30 for a box of 100 (Winchester Value Pack @ Wal-Mart) or $18 for a box of 50 rounds of CCI Blazer Aluminum at Sportsmans Warehouse...

Don't get me wrong, I tremendously enjoy my G17 and G19, and am competing better and better with them, setting a number of "personal bests" with them this year so far (last year, I did a GSSF "personal best" with the G21). I just liked being alternatively able to use my G21 reasonably economically on a regular basis, if I chose...


Best, Jon

Jon, just get yourself a Dillon and you'll be able to afford shooting .45!

[Gryff]

So, I don't have to go purchase a $2k 1911 to shoot CDP? GREAT!!!

Check out the results from the 2007 IDPA National Championships...

CDP Division Champion shot an XD45 Tactical
CDP 1st Place shot a G21SF
CDP 2nd Place shot an M&P 45

Nope, you definitely don't have to have a 1911 to be competitive in CDP anymore.