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Osprey4950
04-25-2008, 20:49
Those of you who shoot IPDA with your Glocks. Which gun/load/holster seems to work best for you?
Might want to get in the game and could use a Glock for GSSF and IPDA.
Thinking about a 22 since I already own others in .40SW.
Any help would be appreciated.
Fobus has a inexpensive suitable holster. Model 22, .40, 155 grain Berry's RS, Titegroup. Work up your load for accuracy or recoil?
It's essentially GLOCK and 1911 in IDPA around here.
I use a Black Hawk Level 1 CQC, but there are a lot of Fobus as well. Nothin' fancy--this is Iowa for God's sake. We do see some Mitch Rosen rigs, but so far the B'hawk has proven itself nicely. (win!)
Mass10mm
04-25-2008, 21:38
I like using my G20 and a Fobus. I shoot Blazer ammo - plenty of accuracy, not too much recoil.
gary newport
04-25-2008, 21:38
G21 SF in CDP, Ready Tactical holster and mag pouches.
Major load: Rainier 230 grain RN, 4.8 grains of Bullseye.
jakemccoy
04-25-2008, 21:57
Don't use Aguila ammo.
I have 2 Glock 34s that I use for IDPA.
I have Kytac holsters and mag pouches!
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/lushl0sn/Glock_34s.jpg
I'm a Blade-tech fan check them out before you make a decission. My experience with Fobus is that it's a price point holster and not much more. I have a Black Hawk Level 1 , that lives in a box of parts and unused gear.
pistolman1974
04-26-2008, 00:33
I use a fist holster and a g19.
a g35 would work well for you.
Blade-Tech paddle and a G34 here. Started with an Uncle Mike's paddle but it wasn't "legal"... I hear the newer ones have a redesigned paddle and might be "legal" in IDPA.
The 35 is one of the more versatile guns for the action pistol sports. It can be shot "as is" in IDPA's SSP, ESP; and USPSA's Production, Limited, and Limited-10 classes and it makes "major." The 22 can be shot in these but you'll be at a slight disadvantage.
And in GSSF matches the 22 would allow you to shoot in Amateur Civilian or Guardian but the 35 would put you into "Competition" category. Due to the redesigned awards system, there's really no reason to tie yourself to the AmCiv/Gua class anymore.
pistoleer
04-26-2008, 04:03
I have 2 Glock 34s that I use for IDPA.
I have Kytac holsters and mag pouches!
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/lushl0sn/Glock_34s.jpg
What width is your front sight? .90, .100, or .125? I started with a .100 on my g35 and later got a .125 cause I felt like I was losing the thinner front sight easially. Now that I have a .125 I am not sure if I made the right decision so I am just curious what other people are using on theirs.
If you look at 2007 IDPA Championship Equipment Survey:
54 Competitors shot the Glock 34 (9mm)
30 shot the Glock 17 (9mm)
9 shot 1911A1 (9mm)
8 shot the XD (9mm) - - Hmmm seeing a trend here?
8 shot the Glock 35 (.40 S&W)
14 shot S&W 625 (45 ACP)
I shoot the Glock 35 because it is a carry gun as well and if its good for the FBI, CIA, Police across the land, etc, how can I argue against the .40?
I like the Crossbreed holsters: http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/beltslide.html
I have a few minor issues with my personal one but for the holster design I give a score of 10/10. I specified a G35 and they gave me one that fits the G23 much better, they didn't have any setup for G35 but I kept it anyway - a very comfortable, fast combination competition/carry holster. Comp-Tac has a similar one. I haven't seen theirs in person so I can't compare the quality.
The most used holster at the Championships was Blade-Tech 105 users of various models. (18 belt, 13 Drop Offset and 12 paddles). Comp-Tac had 14 belt holsters as well. Everything else was spread out.
Sights...I personally don't like the 125s. At ~ 20 yds the front sight is the same width as the head of the IDPA target. That means I have to concentrate longer on centering it to make sure the hit scores...not good. I like the thinner front sights just for that reason. For the close shots it really doesn't matter. However, if you want tritium sights for low light...good luck finding thin ones. It seems to be a balance of how good your eyes are vs how fast you can acquire the sights. Sights are too personal to recommend one over another :)
My .02 -- for what little its worth.
What width is your front sight? .90, .100, or .125? I started with a .100 on my g35 and later got a .125 cause I felt like I was losing the thinner front sight easially. Now that I have a .125 I am not sure if I made the right decision so I am just curious what other people are using on theirs.
I have the .90 version if my memory serves pistoleer!
For me, it helps with those head shot stages.
I really love the Dawsons!
Since ther are no power factor requirements in either IDPA or GSSF I'd suggest a G17 or G34, Blade-Tech FBI cant OWB, Blade-Tech double mag carrier and a Wilderness belt. You may shoot Am/Civ, Competition, Master Stock and Unlimited in GSSF with the G17, or just Competition and Unlimited categories with the G34. Both are good for SSP in IDPA.
I've used the Fobus holsters and mag pouches, paddle type, for a number of years. I've been happy with them. I also understand that the Uncle Mike's Kydex are well thought of. I should note that I am NOT shooting competitively, and so you may want to invest in a more refined product, at a more refined price.
While I usually shoot my G17 in IDPA, I just used my G19 and shot a "personal IDPA best" with it. I've also used my G21, but with the cost of .45 ammunition...
For holsters, I prefer Blade-Tech, or Glock's Sport/Combat. I've also used the Glock Duty/Sport successsfully. Out of the 3, the Blade-Tech is my favorite, but if you're just starting out, you'll be just fine with the inexpensive Sport/Combat beltslide.
Best, Jon
I like using my G20 and a Fobus. I shoot Blazer ammo - plenty of accuracy, not too much recoil.
Blazer, is that with steel cases. No problems feeding the Glock with steel or aluminum alloy?
While I usually shoot my G17 in IDPA, I just used my G19 and shot a "personal IDPA best" with it. I've also used my G21, but with the cost of .45 ammunition...
For holsters, I prefer Blade-Tech, or Glock's Sport/Combat. I've also used the Glock Duty/Sport successsfully. Out of the 3, the Blade-Tech is my favorite, but if you're just starting out, you'll be just fine with the inexpensive Sport/Combat beltslide.
Best, Jon
I always seem to be a day late and $1 short. I finally get a 17; then everyone raves about the 19. Double Yoi!
:brickwall:
Hello,
I shoot my G19 in the local competitions. I use an Uncle Mike's kydex with no trouble. However, these folks are very laid back, so I'm not sure if it meets exact IDPA laws or not, so please double-check the written rules.
Jim
tampashooters
04-26-2008, 10:36
Holster: Blade-Tech
Guns: Glock 22 & 17
Ammo: Speer Lawman Cleanfire (.40 165gr & 9mm 115gr)
GSSF & IDPA
Desk_Jockey
04-26-2008, 13:26
Is Blade-Tech's DOH Dropped & Offset Holster w/Tek-Lok approved for IDPA?
I use a Glock 21 with a Blackhawk Serpa holster and douldle mag holder, and use 230gr WWB .45 ACP in IDPA. WOW .45 ACP ammo prices are oof the wall. I consideriing going with a G17 ( Good excuse to go out and buy one!)
Is Blade-Tech's DOH Dropped & Offset Holster w/Tek-Lok approved for IDPA?
It is a great holster for USPSA "Production" but it is not IDPA legal. But if you switch the DOH attachement for an SRB ("Sting Ray Belt") one, then it is OK to be used in IDPA.
G21forME
04-26-2008, 15:57
Glock 34 w/ 147 gr fmj
comp-tac speed paddle and mag carriers
Is Blade-Tech's DOH Dropped & Offset Holster w/Tek-Lok approved for IDPA?
I believe it is for the ladies. Their "curves" make the draw from a standard belt holster difficult.
I always seem to be a day late and $1 short. I finally get a 17; then everyone raves about the 19. Double Yoi!
:brickwall:
Beat 'em to the punch this time; When I got a 19 my scores went up from my 17, I got a 34 and they went up again! So just get a 34 and you'll be waiting at the pass!!
:cool:
It is a great holster for USPSA "Production" but it is not IDPA legal. But if you switch the DOH attachement for an SRB ("Sting Ray Belt") one, then it is OK to be used in IDPA.
This is the set up I use for USPSA Production/Limited/Limited10 and for IDPA. i just swap out the DOH attachment as needed and shoot a Glock 35.
pistoleer
04-27-2008, 00:18
I have the .90 version if my memory serves pistoleer!
For me, it helps with those head shot stages.
I really love the Dawsons!
Thanks so much Jupiter. I love my Dawsons too but I wish they made a .115 front fiberoptic sight that would work with my target rear. Now I am considering switching to a DP front .105 or .125 with a heinie rear or just thrwoing some Meps or Trijicons on and just calling it a day.
Desk_Jockey
04-27-2008, 17:17
It is a great holster for USPSA "Production" but it is not IDPA legal. But if you switch the DOH attachement for an SRB ("Sting Ray Belt") one, then it is OK to be used in IDPA.
Thanks - Didn't mean to hijack the thread.
I've used fobus for years but I like the new blackhawk serpa. Good quality for the price. Low cut front. Comes with paddle or belt loop attachment and most of all it has a security release that is well designed and works. I shoot IDPA production with it and a G-35. D Beach
I always seem to be a day late and $1 short. I finally get a 17; then everyone raves about the 19. Double Yoi!
:brickwall:
Yeah I hear ya! So did I! Yesterday I picked up mine
Osprey4950
05-17-2008, 13:53
Finally ended up with a Blade-Tech "Sting Ray" and double mag holder.
Seems to work well. Good quality for the money. I think I'll put some "light" loctite on the screws and be ready to roll.
Thanks for everyone' help and suggestions.
Does anyone know if the Bade-Tech holster will work with a Dawson FO front sight on a Glock 34? It sits pretty high.
I'd suggest contacting Blade-Tech directly and ask; www.blade-tech.com; phone is (253)581.4347.
Best, Jon
Does anyone know if the Bade-Tech holster will work with a Dawson FO front sight on a Glock 34? It sits pretty high.
I have a Warren/Sevigny FO on mine (the same height as the Dawson FO) and it fits just fine.
GlockRik
05-23-2008, 17:03
Does anyone know if the Bade-Tech holster will work with a Dawson FO front sight on a Glock 34? It sits pretty high.
That's my exact setuo. Works great.
Rik
That's my exact setuo. Works great.
Rik
Would you happen to have a picture of the gun inside the holster from the side and front?
crazypilot
05-23-2008, 17:58
I shoot a G23 with Sevigny Competition sights (plain rear/F.O. front). I use a Blade-Tech holster and double mag pouch. I usually shoot CCI Blazer Brass, WWB or Federal American Eagle.
pistoleer
05-23-2008, 18:25
A buddy of mine uses a blade tech holster for his g35 with a DP fiberoptic front and dp target rear and is fine. I have the same set up but cheaped out and bought an uncle mike's holster and had to file the holster alittle with a rat tale file so it would fit my front sight.
Duck of Death
05-23-2008, 18:50
I'm going to a match tomorrow, I'll shoot a G26 using WWB and a Blade Tech molded holster.
I'm going to a match tomorrow, I'll shoot a G26 using WWB and a Blade Tech molded holster.
Are you in Montana? Where is the match?
Comp-Tac Locking Paddle. (Gotta request that it be made IDPA legal).
Best holster for this game that I've used. And I've been through a lot of them.
I always seem to be a day late and $1 short. I finally get a 17; then everyone raves about the 19. Double Yoi!
:brickwall:
I would like to have a 19, but the grip isn't long enough for my hand, so the overhang gets caught between the bottom of the grip and the magazine during fast reloads. It is, therefore, of no use to me. To use the 19 in competition, other than GSSF (no reloads) you either need small hands or you need to be very slow.
To use the 19 in competition, other than GSSF (no reloads) you either need small hands or you need to be very slow.
I don't know about all that now...
I don't know about all that now...
When I used to use my 23 for IDPA I pinched my palm twice doing reloads. Both times it took a nice chunk out of my palm and bled like crazy. The second time was enough for me. And I do not have big hands, they are average to small.
This is my recently purchased Glock 34. So far it has Dawson FO sights and TacGrip tape. I ordered a Comp-Tac belt holster which should be here in a couple weeks. Is there anything else I might need for IDPA?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/cpufed/DSC02879.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/cpufed/DSC02880.jpg
Blade-Tech paddle and a G34 here. Started with an Uncle Mike's paddle but it wasn't "legal"... I hear the newer ones have a redesigned paddle and might be "legal" in IDPA.
The 35 is one of the more versatile guns for the action pistol sports. It can be shot "as is" in IDPA's SSP, ESP; and USPSA's Production, Limited, and Limited-10 classes and it makes "major." The 22 can be shot in these but you'll be at a slight disadvantage.
And in GSSF matches the 22 would allow you to shoot in Amateur Civilian or Guardian but the 35 would put you into "Competition" category. Due to the redesigned awards system, there's really no reason to tie yourself to the AmCiv/Gua class anymore.
What disadvantage does the "22" have in IDPA or USPSA?
What disadvantage does the "22" have in IDPA or USPSA? (compared to a 35 I take it?)
Less sight radius, less weight, less weight out front = (ever so) slightly more muzzle flip, greater opportunity for angular error.
I don't shoot one so I don't know first-hand. I do know my 34 is "softer" shooting than either (as nice as they are) my 19 or 17 and seems to just "breeze" through stages... (the only disadvantage my 34 has to a 35 is that it doesn't make major in USPSA.)
This is my recently purchased Glock 34. So far it has Dawson FO sights and TacGrip tape. I ordered a Comp-Tac belt holster which should be here in a couple weeks. Is there anything else I might need for IDPA?
Magpouches. You need to be able to carry two mags.
I assumed he was talking 9mm vs .40 ... If you don't reload, there's a hefty cost and recoil factor that comes along with the bump from .355 to .40 caliber. ;)
Magpouches. You need to be able to carry two mags.
Good call!
And that's (two mags) besides the one in the gun. Three total on your person.
When I used to use my 23 for IDPA I pinched my palm twice doing reloads. Both times it took a nice chunk out of my palm and bled like crazy. The second time was enough for me. And I do not have big hands, they are average to small.
Same, but it pinched a blood blister on my palm and I didn't try it a second time (not a match, just on the range). Oddly, when I used to carry a Glock 19 as an off-duty gun and was only shooting at police speed, this was not a problem - the grip size only becomes an issue when you start shooting faster.
What disadvantage does the "22" have in IDPA or USPSA?
You can shoot 9mm a lot faster and cheaper. In USPSA, however, factory .40 is usually major, so you can shoot factory ammo in Limited/Lim. 10 if you don't want to shoot production.
This is my recently purchased Glock 34. So far it has Dawson FO sights and TacGrip tape. I ordered a Comp-Tac belt holster which should be here in a couple weeks. Is there anything else I might need for IDPA?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/cpufed/DSC02879.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/cpufed/DSC02880.jpg
Yes! Three more things...Ammo, Ammo and more Ammo! Practice, practice, and more practice!:supergrin:
Yes! Three more things...Ammo, Ammo and more Ammo! Practice, practice, and more practice!:supergrin:
Listen to the words of a wise man! :thumbsup:
What disadvantage does the "22" have in IDPA or USPSA?
None IMO but it does have an advantage; if you reload, you can make your 180gr .40S&W bullet produce less felt recoil at 125PF than any 9mm out there.
With enough practice the G22 has really no disadvantage. This model used to reign king in USPSA before the introduction of the G34/G35. And if you consider the overall cost of matches (entry fees, driving/flying to the match, hotel, etc) you will see that the cost of ammo is only a fraction of your overall expense. Use it if you have it.
FWIW Travis Tomasie, in the rare occasions that he shoots Production, does it with a G17 (instead of a G34).
None IMO but it does have an advantage; if you reload, you can make your 180gr .40S&W bullet produce less felt recoil at 125PF than any 9mm out there.
With enough practice the G22 has really no disadvantage. This model used to reign king in USPSA before the introduction of the G34/G35. And if you consider the overall cost of matches (entry fees, driving/flying to the match, hotel, etc) you will see that the cost of ammo is only a fraction of your overall expense. Use it if you have it.
FWIW Travis Tomasie, in the rare occasions that he shoots Production, does it with a G17 (instead of a G34).Keep it coming cysoto!! Just a little more and I'll be buying another Glock(35)!!
I went with the model 22, .40 because of economics. I prefered shooting the .45. Recoil has never been an issue with me. With the high capacity mags, i hate to shoot production and it's a little difficult shooting limited against the high priced pistols. When you buy bulk the cost factor between 9mm and 40's isn't that much. I can't see myself shooting a little gun like a 9. Maybe if I go to open class and shoot 9mm major? I'll keep shooting the 40.
In IDPA, I use my 17 and 19 in SSP depending on the light conditions (dark stage = 19 with TFO's). I use my 21SF for CDP. In USPSA I have a 34 for production and a 35 for L10 and Limited. Both have DP .10 red fronts and target rears. Blade Tech for all game guns.
I use a 26 for the BUG matchs
rbgaynor
06-04-2008, 14:09
I use a Comp-Tac paddle holster and mag pouches with an Uncle Mikes training belt for IDPA with my G34. Since people have been mentioning it I have a Dawson FO front/ Heinie racing cut rear on the gun. Great setup for IDPA.
madcapmagician
06-04-2008, 15:46
SSP/ESP/Production - Glocks with Warren Tactical Sights, Talon Tactical holsters/mag carriers and 124gr reloads.
CDP/SS/Lim10 - Kimber Classic Custom, Talon Tactical holster/mag carriers and 200gr LSWC reloads.
Here's what I use:
IDPA SSP:
Glock 34
Wilderness 5 Stitch Instructors Belt
Comp-Tac Belt Holster
Uncle Mike's Double Mag Pouch
DP FO front sight/DP adj target rear sight
triggerkit.com trigger
USPSA Production
Same Gun and Mods
Comp-Tac Belt Holster
CR Speed Belt
Safariland Single Mag Pouches x4
I'm looking at trying a Glockworx trigger and going with a plain black front sight instead of the fiber optic.
I'm looking at trying a Glockworx trigger and going with a plain black front sight instead of the fiber optic.
I think you'll be happy with both changes. I actually prefer the Glockworx I'm running now to my old Vanek (heresy!)... and switching to Sevigny comp sights from the Dawson/Heinie combination helped my accuracy noticeably.
If you're not of the age where the glowing F.O. helps you concentrate on an out-of-focus front sight, I feel that steel sights are better. But that's just me,.
I think you'll be happy with both changes. I actually prefer the Glockworx I'm running now to my old Vanek (heresy!)... and switching to Sevigny comp sights from the Dawson/Heinie combination helped my accuracy noticeably.
If you're not of the age where the glowing F.O. helps you concentrate on an out-of-focus front sight, I feel that steel sights are better. But that's just me,.
I shoot with a couple of Master class USPSA and IDPA shooters, and they all went with plain black front sights. They swear their accuracy is better and that they can actually shoot faster. The difference really comes into being at smaller, farther targets when you need to focus on the top edge of the front sight post. I can't do that when I have a glaring red dot in front of me.
My age is definitely not where I need that glowing F.O. However, I just had PRK laser eye surgery this past Monday. So I'll wait and see how my eyes are before I make the switch to a plain front sight.
I've heard nothing but good things about the Glockworx trigger, so once I can save up the money, I will definitely be getting it.
Magpouches. You need to be able to carry two mags.
I bought two double mag pouches from Comp-Tac. I really like them along with the Comp-Tac belt holster.
I bought two double mag pouches from Comp-Tac. I really like them along with the Comp-Tac belt holster.
Three mags total can be used in one stage. One in the gun, and two mags on your belt.
Three mags total can be used in one stage. One in the gun, and two mags on your belt.
Yeah, I know that. I bought two of them just to have an extra.
Yeah, I know that. I bought two of them just to have an extra.
Or start shooting USPSA and get to use both at once! :supergrin:
Or start shooting USPSA and get to use both at once! :supergrin:
Actually, that's what I'm thinking. USPSA seems to be a little less strict.
Actually, that's what I'm thinking. USPSA seems to be a little less strict.Absolutely. Very much a game of fun "run and gun". Period. (Me and the wife) Just shot in the USPSA 2008 Virginia - Maryland Sectional Championship yesterday. Talk about "HOT"!! Just over 100°F, 96% humidity, and very little shade. Our squad shot 1300 - about 1800 hrs. I think I lost ten pounds. Didn't do well but had a lot of fun. The heat was just kickin'! My shirt and the top half of my shorts were soaked through, like I had been dipped upside down in a river, but we finished! Our squad had seven and by the end of the day there were three left (me, wife, and one other) who didn't quit on account of the heat.
Found this just last night:
http://www.gunracer.com/faqs.htm
You might like it.
Found this just last night:
http://www.gunracer.com/faqs.htm
You might like it.
Great link! Thanks!!
Great link! Thanks!!
I thought so too. I'd like to see him add the Single Stack division as that is "official" as of this year. Multi Gun too.
WellArmedSheep
06-08-2008, 17:53
Here's my IDPA rig, which is a G17 in a G-Code paddle holster, and a G-Code mag pouch:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/scrcteach/Shooting/IMG_7553.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/scrcteach/Shooting/IMG_7554.jpg
OH YEAH...forgot to add my load data. I load a 147 grain FMJ bullet (Precision Delta) over 3.2 grains of TiteGroup to 1.13" OAL with a Winchester Small Pistol primer. Makes for a nice-shooting accurate load that should (according to ALOT of other folks here and on Brian Enos' forum) make power factor. I've yet to chrono it, though.
sidewinder6
06-08-2008, 18:15
I run G Code. Good stuff. I like the hard kydex for strudy use but had to trim a couple edges to reduce interference. That was a personal thing not a deficiency.
Running a 34 (~16k) with Glockworx drop in kit.
Just transitioned to Warren/Sevigny Carry with a tritium front. Ive been happy with them so far but I only have ~ 600 rounds of Non-match shooting with them.
Been using 147 from Atlanta Arms so I dont sweat the chrono.
SilverState
06-08-2008, 18:28
do the mags have to be 10rnd capacity, or just loaded with 10rnds?
Here's my IDPA rig, which is a G17 in a G-Code paddle holster, and a G-Code mag pouch:
{snip}
OH YEAH...forgot to add my load data. I load a 147 grain FMJ bullet (Precision Delta) over 3.2 grains of TiteGroup to 1.13" OAL with a Winchester Small Pistol primer. Makes for a nice-shooting accurate load that should (according to ALOT of other folks here and on Brian Enos' forum) make power factor. I've yet to chrono it, though.
Definitely do! (chrono it). A guy on my squad (at the VA-MD Section Championship yesterday) who was shooting really good, failed the chrono. Came in at 122 PF, IIRC. The whole day shot (no pun intended). He was a great sport though and just considered it "expensive practice" not to mention he drove 5 hours one way to shoot this match! You might consider a good deal of "margin" too, if you drive to different climes/areas to shoot. He said he had just passed the chrono at a big match in PA the week before... Go figure.
do the mags have to be 10rnd capacity, or just loaded with 10rnds?You can download your mags to 10. Unless you live in a communist-socialist state that has mag restrictions, then you can fill 'em to where ever your "Lordship" will allow you. haha
And: the mag has to have ten rounds in it after the gun is loaded. Meaning you put 11 in the mag you load the gun with so you've got a "full" mag, +1 one in the chamber when the buzzer sounds. Otherwise you'll have to load one from one mag, then take it out and load with a full mag. But if 10 rndrs are all you've got... :(
This applies to IDPA: all but revolvers and CDP, and USPSA: Production and Limited-10.
SilverState
06-08-2008, 23:17
Good to know. I am going to my first IDPA event next week and I bought a few 10rnders based on my reading of the IDPA rules. It read like the capacity had to be 10...
But being able to use my hicaps is better.
thx
WellArmedSheep
06-09-2008, 01:08
yeah...I'd much rather just put 11 rounds in a hi-cap than to have to have an extra mag just to load one round.
Good to know. I am going to my first IDPA event next week and I bought a few 10rnders based on my reading of the IDPA rules. It read like the capacity had to be 10...
But being able to use my hicaps is better.
thx
You've probably already heard this but, don't try to be fast, instead I challenge you to try and shoot "clean"! (No points down!)
Either way, enjoy it! You're gonna have a blast!
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