Scherer Mags--Reallly that Bad??

[robotoid]

I don't think I've ever read a good review of Scherer "knock off" Glock mags, threads almost always coming down to "just buy factory". Unfortunately, Glock does not make a super hi-cap .40S&W mag (ala' the 33 round Glock 18 mag). Scherer makes a 29 round .40 mag, and I was contemplating purchase of one to go with a Kel-Tec SUB2000 carbine in .40 Glock version. Any thoughts or experience??

[DannyR]

Yes, they are really that bad. Just use a G22 mag and #7151 factory extended base for 17+1 reliable capacity.

[G33]

Bad!
10mm ones were unusable.
.40 were hit and miss.
:whistling::supergrin:

[Xtreme G]

I have a 29 round Scherer mag that I purchased a while back. I have not had any problems with it at all. The spring tension feels a little weak when it is getting close to empty (last 6 rounds or so), but does not seem to effect feed reliability. I suppose if you were to use it in a full auto there might me some issues, but I don't think thats the case in this situation. If I had to do it all over again, I would stick with the standard clips...far cheaper and easier to reload. But over all, pretty well made. They appear to be just as rugged as Glock brand mags, and are also metal lined as well.

[gary newport]

Friends don't let friends buy Scherer magazines!

[sigcalcatrant]

And now a word from terminology nazis.

:popcorn:

[Lugi]

Yes they are !!!

[gary newport]

And now a word from terminology nazis.

:popcorn:

Yeah, try ordering an extended slide LOCK lever some places and they'll send you one -- except that it ain't the part the OP wants and it ain't made by Glock!

Successful communication depends on using the correct terminology. A Glock has less than 40 parts -- how hard can it be to learn their names?

[G-Boy]

not to hijack your thread but just wondering if there's other better mags, normal 13 rd mag for G23 that's not from Glock...plastic mags seams to wear fast...is there any?

[gary newport]

not to hijack your thread but just wondering if there's other better mags, normal 13 rd mag for G23 that's not from Glock...plastic mags seams to wear fast...is there any?

Factory Glock magazine wear out fast? Not that I've experienced or heard! And no.

[G-Boy]

.... i mean those notches........

[gary newport]

.... i mean those notches........

I've never worn one out. Let's ask Butch.

[Coogan]

Neither have I. I do have some old NFML mags that have seen much better days, but still function 100%.

[G-Boy]

it's really not worn as in worn but there's a considerable wear on the notches that engages with the catch....

[Glockdude1]

Anyone ever take a 9mm 33 rd Glock mag and replace the 9mm follower with a .40 follower? It could work.......

:cool:

[gary newport]

Anyone ever take a 9mm 33 rd Glock mag and replace the 9mm follower with a .40 follower? It could work.......

:cool:

Maybe. The width of the feed lips is probably different, since the .40 is a bit stouter than the 9.

[Mag Cap 17]

I have a 29 round Scherer mag that I purchased a while back. I have not had any problems with it at all. The spring tension feels a little weak when it is getting close to empty (last 6 rounds or so), but does not seem to effect feed reliability. I suppose if you were to use it in a full auto there might me some issues, but I don't think thats the case in this situation. If I had to do it all over again, I would stick with the standard clips...far cheaper and easier to reload. But over all, pretty well made. They appear to be just as rugged as Glock brand mags, and are also metal lined as well.

Lone Wolf sells an extra power Wolff spring for 29-33 round mags. A couple of weeks ago a fella brought a .45 Scherer mag into the local "GLOCK shop", it had weak spring that was apparently the problem, been wondering if the Wolff spring would fix it.

[Z28ricer]

YES, they really are THAT BAD, I just bought one last week for my G30 (scherer 28 rd)

brought it home and loaded it full of wwb 230gr, decided i'd feed it by hand to see if it worked decent. The rounds were slow to popup for most of them, too slow, did this a couple of times, loading it and feeding it by hand, even got a few out without the next round popping up for something like 2 seconds.

Went back to the gun store i got it from locally and asked what their return policy was on mags that werent worth the plastic they're made of, guy i bought it from has to ask the other guy who owns the place, says all sales final says on the receipt, which pisses me off, I explain that i've got 6 mags for my G30 and none that are as poor functioning as this, the guy says if he could look at the gun maybe he could see whats wrong with it, so i leave it with him, knowing nothing is wrong with my G30. Next day he still hadnt touched it when i went back, so he loads it up and feeds it by loading it in my gun and continually racking the slide. Says it worked like that, but try it out at the range and if it didnt work he'd give me store credit, which is all I wanted in the first place. The next morning I went to the range, loaded it up with 25 rds, (it would only hold 27, not a big deal IMO) and the gun store guy said to only load it with 26, so I start shooting, bang, bang, hmm slide isnt closed, it nosedived the round in the mag a bit keeping the slide from shutting.

Got my store credit today, picked up a wilson combat mag for the kimber i'll be picking up soon.

[Mag Cap 17]

I think the .45 Scherer mags are 25 rounds and the .40 mags are 28.

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=106

[marcoh]

Really, really. I'm not kidding. Really.

[moosehead]

Yea, these mags suck.

[sigcalcatrant]

Yeah, try ordering an extended slide LOCK lever some places and they'll send you one -- except that it ain't the part the OP wants and it ain't made by Glock!

Successful communication depends on using the correct terminology. A Glock has less than 40 parts -- how hard can it be to learn their names?Xtreme g said 'clip', and nobody noticed. Amazing!

[Blitzer]

P.O.S. short operating life, poor dimensional accuracy, messed up follower design, inferior plastic materials (they crack very easily) and they not lined with metal...

:puking:

A fool and his money are soon parted. I got screwed on one 33 round and I won't buy another one of their products!

[762minigun]

Anyone ever take a 9mm 33 rd Glock mag and replace the 9mm follower with a .40 follower? It could work.......

:cool:

Sure if you dont mind your magazine holding only 14 rounds

[gary newport]

Xtreme g said 'clip', and nobody noticed. Amazing!

Thanks for pointing out the incorrect terminology! :cool:

[Glockdude1]

Sure if you dont mind your magazine holding only 14 rounds

14? I am sure it would hold at least 29rd's of .40. I am talking about using a 9mm Glock 33rd Magazine, by swapping out the 9mm follower with a .40 follower.

:cool:

[Blitzer]

14? I am sure it would hold at least 29rd's of .40. I am talking about using a 9mm Glock 33rd Magazine, by swapping out the 9mm follower with a .40 follower.

:cool:

Modifying the feed lips is the major project to go from 9mm to .40 S&W.

Check out the 9mm vs. the .40 S&W feed lips. :dunno:

[pens-66]

Anyone ever take a 9mm 33 rd Glock mag and replace the 9mm follower with a .40 follower? It could work.......

:cool:

I would also like to know if this would work...sounds possible.

[Glockdude1]

Modifying the feed lips is the major project to go from 9mm to .40 S&W.

Check out the 9mm vs. the .40 S&W feed lips. :dunno:

Dremel!!!

:wow:

[slewfoot]

I bought two. Thankfully, Midway took them back and credited my account.

In this case, once was enough. I won't purchase any Scherer mags again.

[BB61]

Scherer is like ProMag -- worthless!

[Madseacow]

Modifying the feed lips is the major project to go from 9mm to .40 S&W.

Check out the 9mm vs. the .40 S&W feed lips. :dunno:

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I saw this and had to share my experience.
I purchased a 9mm hi-cap magazine for my g23 after being told by a glock armorer at a gun show that the only difference was the follower. So I purchased the follower and went home to play with a new toy. Boy was I wrong, as soon as I got it home I realized the lips were going to be a slight problem. I pulled out the trusty dremel and went to work. It took awhile but I finally got it to feed 40's pretty well. I was able to load 26 rounds before the magazine screams "enough!" So I start working the slide to see how they feed into the barrel. The first 20 rounds feed flawlessly, but it starts jamming on the ramp on the last few bullets. The spring doesn't push the round with enough force to lift the bullet end high enough to feed into the barrel. Well when I finished reading this post I was intent on sharing a few pictures of the problem. So I loaded 26 rounds, and started working the slide. To my surprise every one fed flawlessly, so there's nothing to take a picture of :dunno: Best I can figure is I am using hornady, which has a steeper sloped bullet head (jhp), whereas I may have been using a flat head bullet before (can't think of the name right now but not hp) in previous tests one of the bullets actually pushed back into the casing slightly (enough for me to notice, enough for me to not use the mag) Perhaps with some more drimmel work, and a selective bullet, it might work without a hitch. But perhaps you kb :faint:

[Glockdude1]

Madseacow

I too just bought a 33rd 9mm Glock mag to use in my G22. I swapped out the 9mm follower for a #6 .40. So far I can only get 21 rd's into the mag. I have not had the chance to go to the range and try it. When I do I will post a range report. I will try different bullets to see what works and what does not.

:cool:

[Madseacow]

Madseacow

I too just bought a 33rd 9mm Glock mag to use in my G22. I swapped out the 9mm follower for a #6 .40. So far I can only get 21 rd's into the mag. I have not had the chance to go to the range and try it. When I do I will post a range report. I will try different bullets to see what works and what does not.

:cool:

try tapping it against a sturdy table and using your stock glock speed loader (the black plastic piece that's been sitting unused since you purchased your glock), you can get 5 more in there. I don't know if your using reloads or not, but I'd make sure it'll feed the bullets first. My crimper isn't the strongest so your results may vary.

[LoneRanger19]

MadSeaCow. I think Scherer biggest flaw is the spring. I would get a Scherer mag and cannibalize that dremmeled Glock 18 mag if you don't trust it.

[smoke]

I have a Scherer 29 round .40 mag that works, but only after some work.

The mag needs to have the plastic mold flash removed on the inside of the tube anywhere that the rounds ride on the plastic.

The metal feed-lips at the top need to be deburred.

Use a GLOCK follower.

Use a Wolff spring.

Mine works 100% but I really just use it for playing around as I don't really have a practical use for it.

[Glockdude1]

try tapping it against a sturdy table and using your stock glock speed loader (the black plastic piece that's been sitting unused since you purchased your glock), you can get 5 more in there. I don't know if your using reloads or not, but I'd make sure it'll feed the bullets first. My crimper isn't the strongest so your results may vary.

I don't use reloads. I will dig out my speed loader to use it, (for once).

:cool: