Aimpoint 4 MOA dot vs 2 MOA dot??

[JerryinPA]

I notice that some of the Aimpoint models are available with either a 4 MOA dot or a 2 MOA dot.

Anyone have experience with both? What are the "pluses" and the "minuses" of both sizes?

I've only ever seen a 4 MOA dot, so I'm wondering if the 2 MOA might be better...

Thanks,

JerryinPA

[MrMurphy]

Pat Rogers (who is a minor god of carbine use, both retired Marine and NYPD I believe) has used both and prefers the 2 MOA if I recall correctly.

I am issued the 4 MOA (standard Aimpoint Comp M2) and it works well at closer ranges, very quick (as intended). At longer ranges (250-300+) the dot starts to cover up the target. Since at that range identifying the target gets a little harder, they came up with the 2X and 3X magnifiers. The 2 MOA dot helps with the magnifiers as it covers up less of the target. It's still "big enough" for closer range work, but as I've not put any rounds through the 2MOA in any quantity that I can remember (not sure if I've even screwed around with one), I stick with the 4 MOA myself opinion-wise since it's what I am familiar with.

If you don't ever plan on shooting more than 150m or so, the 4 will do fine. If you plan on whacking prairie dogs, you need something else.

[jadams951]

In a nutshell I prefer the 2moa because the smaller dot gives tad better accuracy. I compared the 2moa to the 4moa when I still had it and I found I could turn up the brightness on the 2moa and the dot size was comparable to the 4moa.

[MrMurphy]

Cranking up the brightness can be bad in the dark. Since I work a lot in the dark (even with NVGs), this would be an issue for me.

[Tomac]

I've used 'em both and now use 4moa exclusively. All my shooting is 200m or less w/o a magnifier (although I can consistently hit at 300m if I do my part) and would rather have the quicker-to-pick-up 4moa that's less likely to lose contrast in bright environments. If I absolutely must have max precision I can turn the intensity down a notch or two and get a dot that appears to be 2moa or smaller. If you plan on using a magnifier then 2moa would be the logical choice. HTH...
Tomac

[benfur]

I've used 'em both and now use 4moa exclusively. All my shooting is 200m or less w/o a magnifier (although I can consistently hit at 300m if I do my part) and would rather have the quicker-to-pick-up 4moa that's less likely to lose contrast in bright environments. If I absolutely must have max precision I can turn the intensity down a notch or two and get a dot that appears to be 2moa or smaller. If you plan on using a magnifier then 2moa would be the logical choice. HTH...
Tomac
Use the 4moa for all the close up shots if you plan on shooting past 300 yards get the 2 moa and stick a 3x mag on it

[Jav21]

Other Ideas:
-At longer distances the hold off is large enough that the dot is no longer on the target so using the 4 MOA is not be a problem.
-It is the intermediate ranges where you may be shooting at a target that is somewhere hidden by the dot.

Note that I am only repeating what I have read on the internet and have no experience with these things myself.

[blindluck]

I called Aimpoint and asked them general questions about the new T1 which is 4MOA. After telling them that I was going to mount it on an M1A, they recommended I get a current 2MOA model like the CompM4. I had not mentioned at what the shooting range was but he clearly stated that targets start becoming blocked out by the dot at 200 yards. He stated this issue became much more pronounced with a magnifier.

Personally, I'm waiting for the T1 with 2MOA dot, although they couldn't give me a timeline to expect them on the shelves due to problems making such small LED's.

[Dobber]

They both work fine for me but I like the 2 MOA better.