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chowchow
05-10-2008, 21:59
The next thing we 'll hear is mayor so and so is killed by unknown gunmen. Masyadong matapang...--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mayor tells Army officers: “Leave town or else…!!”
May 07,2008

Officers of the Philippine Army in Catanduanes tangled with San Andres Mayor Leo Z. Mendoza last week after the latter berated two Army officers and told them to pull out of the town within 24 hours.

The nasty encounter began in the morning of April 30, 2008 at about 10:45 A.M. while 1Lt. Henry Pabelonio, commanding officer of Alpha Company, 65th Infantry Battalion, and Lictin detachment commander Sgt. Edwin Alonsagay were conducting a checkpoint at Lictin near the Luyang Cave.

A silver Nissan vehicle with plate number ZJP-611 allegedly owned by Mayor Mendoza was flagged down by Army soldiers and CAFGU members but instead of stopping, it accelerated and disregarded the authorities.

The two officers also reported to the Catanduanes Police Provincial Office at Camp Francisco Camacho that prior to the incident, while Sgt. Alonsagay was at the Lictin Elementary School at around 2 P.M. of April 28, he was fetched by the men of Mayor Mendoza, whose service vehicle was parked at the side of the road. Without any reason, Sgt. Alonsagay said, he was scolded by the mayor and challenged to a firefight. Mayor Mendoza allegedly gave him and his men an ultimatum to leave the town within 24 hours. Apparently, the vehicle of the mayor was stopped by Army elements at another checkpoint the day before (April 27).

When 1Lt. Orlando Gil Marquez, Jr., commanding officer of the 1st Catanduanes Civilian Active Auxiliary (CAA) went to the office of Mayor Mendoza at 7 P.M. of April 30 to explain the matter, the mayor told him: "Bakit tsenekpoint yong tao ko sa Barangay Rizal? Pumasok ka sa teritoryo ko na walang coordination! Umalis ka sa teritoryo ko! Umalis ka sa San Andres, umalis kayo ng tropa mo sa barangay Lictin within 12 hours kung hindi… Layas! Hindi na kita kailangan sa opisina ko!"

The Tribune tried to get the side of Mayor Mendoza last Saturday (May 4) but he did not reply to the query.

http://www.catanduanestribune.com/May-07-2008/TopStory/Detail.aspx?newsID=4135

TTPower
05-11-2008, 03:36
he is inviting trouble..... no army can protect him against determined killers. isang sniper lng katapat nyan!

isuzu
05-11-2008, 09:15
Too much air...

9MX
05-11-2008, 10:22
atapang si mayor. sayang, i was stationed in virac many years ago as a satellite engineer, the people in the island were very friendly and honest. the local politicians were ..well...still politicians,hahahaha!

pipo
05-11-2008, 17:27
hmmmm gives a pathetic view of what we normally call "public servant". The taxes we pay is what pays that guy's salary. Konting humility naman dyan mayor. Nakakahiya eh.

Clusterbomb
05-11-2008, 19:39
That's how mayors here see themselves- kings of their little kingdoms.

Several years ago, European election observers were amazed to see how we fight over mayoral posts. Guns, goons & gold talaga. They said in Europe the mayorship is purely an administrative job without the trappings of power that we have here.

bmag
05-11-2008, 20:23
For a system to work, magka dialogue sana...sayang naman.

chowchow
05-11-2008, 20:44
Mga Haring Pugad mga itong mayors natin.

Allegra
05-12-2008, 07:23
hehe it works kinda different here in the provinces :)

Anyway , they are from a different generation these tough warlords
Paunti na ng paunti

G19c,PH
05-12-2008, 09:00
Tapang masyado ah...

atmarcella
05-12-2008, 10:01
That's how mayors here see themselves- kings of their little kingdoms.

Several years ago, European election observers were amazed to see how we fight over mayoral posts. Guns, goons & gold talaga. They said in Europe the mayorship is purely an administrative job without the trappings of power that we have here.


kaibigan ko nga brgy. chairman lang dito pag umiikot 2 car caravan plus 5 bodyguards. lupet.

Clusterbomb
05-13-2008, 02:48
kaibigan ko nga brgy. chairman lang dito pag umiikot 2 car caravan plus 5 bodyguards. lupet.

Tama ka dyan!

Wag na tayo lumayo, sa barangay captains pa nga lang, marami nang kung umasta akala mo kung sino.

chowchow
05-13-2008, 06:20
Masarap maging maging mayor sa atin. Warlord ang labas, yayaman talaga ka kahit ano. At maraming kumakabit sa yo . Bodyguards walang problema as theres a lot of jobless soldiers . Easy breezy ang trbaho.

atmarcella
05-13-2008, 09:20
i forgot to mention me wangwang pa mga kotse nya. tapos isang bodyguard baby armalite ang hawak yung iba pistola lahat.

crazy_hans
05-13-2008, 10:40
hahahaha pati barangay level ganayan na din sa manila nga pati kagawad may plate number pa eh all caps in red pa KAGAWAD.hayup!gusto ko magpagawa din ng plate eh in bold letters din TAXPAYER.

pogi
05-13-2008, 18:07
huwag na tayo lumayo...(bato-bato sa langit, ang tamaan magbago na)

may mga kilala nga ako eh, pure civilian-hindi govt. officials-hindi tulis ehe pulis-hindi militar-ah basta! lahat hindi!!!

pero...pero...may wang-wang.
para ano?

Poodle
05-13-2008, 18:27
huwag na tayo lumayo...(bato-bato sa langit, ang tamaan magbago na)

may mga kilala nga ako eh, pure civilian-hindi govt. officials-hindi tulis ehe pulis-hindi militar-ah basta! lahat hindi!!!

pero...pero...may wang-wang.
para ano?

Para magyabang. Meron din kaming ex-alumnus na pumasok sa compound ng school ng past 10 pm at nag-wang wang. Di pulis, di politiko. Nung pinagsabihan ko nag-yabang pa, ayun banned ang kotse niya na pumasok dito ngayon. Dedemanda daw ako dahil violate ko daw Constitution na sinasabing human right to travel niya (kotse lang naman niya banned di siya - wala naman vehicle rights). :rofl: Pinasulatan ko sa abogado ko, ayun tumahimik na. :tongueout:

pogi
05-13-2008, 19:01
Para magyabang. Meron din kaming ex-alumnus na pumasok sa compound ng school ng past 10 pm at nag-wang wang. Di pulis, di politiko. Nung pinagsabihan ko nag-yabang pa, ayun banned ang kotse niya na pumasok dito ngayon. Dedemanda daw ako dahil violate ko daw Constitution na sinasabing human right to travel niya (kotse lang naman niya banned di siya - wala naman vehicle rights). :rofl: Pinasulatan ko sa abogado ko, ayun tumahimik na. :tongueout:

hahaha! galing-galing Father Poodle. Idol!
Pag nagtangka pa ulit...pa TMG-Anti Wang Wang mo 0928-3982873.
Aside from marked ambulances and marked police vehicles may mga LIMITED number of govt. officials lang ang puede maglagay ng Wang-Wang.

Even a cop is NOT authorized-nor OBLIGED-nor EMPOWERED to install Wang-Wang in his personal vehicle.

Otherwise, the "air" for superiority and the "feeling for grandeur" set in.

isuzu
05-13-2008, 20:08
[QUOTE=pogi;10467826]
Even a cop is NOT authorized-nor OBLIGED-nor EMPOWERED to install Wang-Wang in his personal vehicle.QUOTE]

Speaking of Wang Wangs, a friend's uncle who was a policeman, installed one in his vehicle. Pati pusang tumatawid sa daan, winawangwangan. Ayun, nasunog ang Wang Wang. E, di tahimik ulit. Back to busina.:supergrin:

Poodle
05-13-2008, 20:18
hahaha! galing-galing Father Poodle. Idol!
Pag nagtangka pa ulit...pa TMG-Anti Wang Wang mo 0928-3982873.
Aside from marked ambulances and marked police vehicles may mga LIMITED number of govt. officials lang ang puede maglagay ng Wang-Wang.

Even a cop is NOT authorized-nor OBLIGED-nor EMPOWERED to install Wang-Wang in his personal vehicle.

Otherwise, the "air" for superiority and the "feeling for grandeur" set in.

Copy. Thanks. Text ko ang plate number ng loko na yun pag nag-wang wang pa ulit.

crazy_hans
05-13-2008, 21:21
pano naman hindi ka mag install ng wang wang super mura at around 800 na lang and it seems that everyone has one na except us.cops are not allowed to install one in their private vehicles pero pati scooter nila meron.may blinkers pa yun iba and ang plate nila is MPD or NPD or WPD.

atmarcella
05-14-2008, 18:58
hayup!gusto ko magpagawa din ng plate eh in bold letters din TAXPAYER.


good idea. sana umpisahan ng isang NGO. i'd definitely buy one.

mariner19
05-14-2008, 22:12
there was one time yata the BIR issued that plate number to the top taxpayers in the country.

saki1611
05-14-2008, 22:18
Para magyabang. Meron din kaming ex-alumnus na pumasok sa compound ng school ng past 10 pm at nag-wang wang. Di pulis, di politiko. Nung pinagsabihan ko nag-yabang pa, ayun banned ang kotse niya na pumasok dito ngayon. Dedemanda daw ako dahil violate ko daw Constitution na sinasabing human right to travel niya (kotse lang naman niya banned di siya - wala naman vehicle rights). :rofl: Pinasulatan ko sa abogado ko, ayun tumahimik na. :tongueout:

:laughabove:

buti na lang ako walang wang-wang, wala din ako kotse eh.:crying:
kidding aside even with my past cars, i didn't and never planned to install one. away hanap mo pag may wang-wang ka, may niyerbos ako pag may away.:supergrin:

wtf jack
05-15-2008, 10:15
Back to the topic - Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't civilian authority supreme over military? I believe the Mayor is right to get mad if military checkpoints showed up in his jurisdiction without notice. It happening in the first place shows either lack of knowledge or lack of respect on the part of the military, both of which needed to get addressed swiftly and decisively.

Poodle
05-15-2008, 17:01
Back to the topic - Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't civilian authority supreme over military? I believe the Mayor is right to get mad if military checkpoints showed up in his jurisdiction without notice. It happening in the first place shows either lack of knowledge or lack of respect on the part of the military, both of which needed to get addressed swiftly and decisively.

It's true. Had an experience with a military checkpoint. It was scary.

I think that military checkpoints should be coordinated with the civilian local government. Maybe there should be policemen present in military checkpoints. Cops generally know the law and are civilian in character.

wtf jack
05-15-2008, 18:43
It's true. Had an experience with a military checkpoint. It was scary.

I think that military checkpoints should be coordinated with the civilian local government. Maybe there should be policemen present in military checkpoints. Cops generally know the law and are civilian in character.

Better yet, leave police functions to the police. The argument of course is that the police is undermanned and ill-equipped for the job and needs to rely on the military. That is fixable by shifting the budget. What is wrong is letting the population believe that the military is the one making right everything that is wrong - easing the way to a military government. Not a good idea.

astig007
05-15-2008, 22:12
Back to the topic - Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't civilian authority supreme over military? I believe the Mayor is right to get mad if military checkpoints showed up in his jurisdiction without notice. It happening in the first place shows either lack of knowledge or lack of respect on the part of the military, both of which needed to get addressed swiftly and decisively.

you got it right!!! sometimes we tend to be hard on politicians because they are "politicians"... but we can still have "politicians" that are true civil servants...

unless the one being pertained to in this post is hiding something in his hometown :)

tigra
05-15-2008, 22:18
Aside from marked ambulances and marked police vehicles may mga LIMITED number of govt. officials lang ang puede maglagay ng Wang-Wang.

Even a cop is NOT authorized-nor OBLIGED-nor EMPOWERED to install Wang-Wang in his personal vehicle.


di ba meron nabibiling wang-wang sa mga car accessory shops?

Poodle
05-16-2008, 07:06
Better yet, leave police functions to the police. The argument of course is that the police is undermanned and ill-equipped for the job and needs to rely on the military. That is fixable by shifting the budget. What is wrong is letting the population believe that the military is the one making right everything that is wrong - easing the way to a military government. Not a good idea.


Well, the police are undermanned and ill-equipped for two contemporary rebellions. They are not trained for that type of conflict and I would not want them to be trained for that kind of conflict. Cops have a different mission. We need the military for the two ongoing rebellions. Shifting budgets (limited as it is) would not solve the anything in my humble opinion because the specificity of the respective missions of the military and police are different.

Low Intensity Conflicts are difficult at best (look at the situation in Iraq) - victory has been declared by Bush years ago and it doesn't look like a definitive victory to me. Tons of money and materiel were already thrown in that arena and it is still a dangerous place.

I don't believe that the military has the answer to everything. I grew up under martial law and the memory is still fresh. I would never agree to a military junta.

Most of the reactions against the mayor in question were due to a different reason I believe and not due to an awe in everything military. The reason is the perceived arrogant and brusque behavior of the mayor. We don't like that over here.

wtf jack
05-16-2008, 07:39
Most of the reactions against the mayor in question were due to a different reason I believe and not due to an awe in everything military. The reason is the perceived arrogant and brusque behavior of the mayor. We don't like that over here.

The people of San Andres will decide if the mayor is worth keeping, not some spectator in Manila. I actually applaud the mayor for having the balls to dress down the military as needed. The military should have known better.

Poodle
05-16-2008, 07:42
The people of San Andres will decide if the mayor is worth keeping, not some spectator in Manila. I actually applaud the mayor for having the balls to dress down the military as needed. The military should have known better.

Or some spectator in the US of A. More remote still. Apparently you don't know how some mayors here can be.

wtf jack
05-16-2008, 07:47
Or some spectator in the US of A. More remote still. Apparently you don't know how some mayors here can be.

LOL! You got me.