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Davey Crockett
06-14-2008, 06:49
Wife and I are headed to Charleston soon for 1 week vacation. Am unable to find good info on South Carolina CCW rules. We are residents of Ohio and both are recently licensed here. Pack-N-Go web site pretty generic with info, not much detail there. South Carolina Attorney General web site even more useless.

We will be staying in a hotel for the duration. Found an undated article that mentioned not being able to carry in any South Carolina establishment that has a liquor permit which would mean basically every restaurant in the state except for maybe waffle house and burger king. And now that I think about it, the hotel I'm staying in has a fancy-smancy restaurant that I'm certain serves alcohol. Does the law extend to my room, considering we're all under the same roof? Is this the current law? Does anyone know? Ohio currently has the same stupid alcohol restrictions. Neither the wife nor I partake in alcohol consumption. As if that perfectly logical detail would make a differance.

I realize that gov. buildings and places like that are probably off limits. Just looking for a web site that has all of the current rules.

Thanks in advance!

Glock20fan
06-14-2008, 06:58
http://www.sled.state.sc.us/sled/default.asp?Category=sccwp&Service=StateGunLaws

Professor Zero
06-14-2008, 09:21
SC is a very gun friendly state. Though like Ohio, to carry in a place that sells alcohol for consumption is a big no-no.

SECTION 16‑23‑465. Additional penalty for unlawfully carrying pistol or firearm into business selling alcoholic liquors, beers or wines for on‑premises consumption.

In addition to the penalties provided for by Sections 16‑11‑330 and 16‑23‑460 and by Article 1 of Chapter 23 of Title 16, a person convicted of carrying a pistol or firearm into a business which sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Here the key word is INTO. If it were "Under One Roof", a bar in a shopping mall would put the whole mall of limits for concealed carry. This is not the case.



Unlike Ohio, places not prohibited by law, that post no carry signs, must post a sign that conforms to state regulations. If not, there is no force of law behind it. For example, if a barber shop has a "NO Guns Allowed" sigh posted on the door, it must be a certain height, size and contain the proper wording, or it is the same as no sign at all. If you are discovered with a weapon in that place and are asked to leave, you must do so. Or you will be charged with trespassing.



This is my understanding of the law. If I am wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

Glockrunner
06-14-2008, 09:48
SC has Reciprocity with Ohio I thought.

Professor Zero
06-14-2008, 10:03
Yes, Ohio and SC have reciprocity. When in SC, you must obey SC laws.

N4tbg
06-14-2008, 15:13
Also be advised that carrying a concealed knife with a blade over 2 inches is illegal in South Carolina.:

http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm#16-23-460

http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm#16-23-405

Robalero
06-14-2008, 17:53
What about the state library, can one carry concealed there. The one in Charleston.

N4tbg
06-14-2008, 21:44
What about the state library, can one carry concealed there. The one in Charleston.

All publicly-owned buildings are no carry without permission of the persons in charge of the premises except for interstate rest areas.

http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm#16-23-420

Robalero
06-15-2008, 07:22
"without the express permission of the authorities in charge of the premises or property."

any public building? So, how do I know, must they post? Only if they post? If it's not posted, can I carry?

Will the post inform that guns are forbidden?

I ask for your patience, I have been attempting to get it right as I will be traveling through thirteen different states this summer. Some of the laws seem to be pretty simple, but this one is getting to me. The wording, is kinda tricky. I take it to mean, simply, that you cannot carry in any public building, period.

Rob

For the record, I have a CHL from Texas.

AB1136
06-15-2008, 12:25
I take it to mean, simply, that you cannot carry in any public building, period.

Rob

For the record, I have a CHL from Texas.

That is correct, you can NOT legally carry in any publicly owned buildings. The ONLY way to be exempted is to get permission from the person in charge of the property prior to carrying.

Leigh
06-15-2008, 12:35
SC is a very gun friendly state.

When they recognize Kentucky CCW (who recognizes ALL states, BTW).
Only THEN should SC be considered "very gun friendly."

Hef
06-15-2008, 17:17
SC is a very gun friendly state. Though like Ohio, to carry in a place that sells alcohol for consumption is a big no-no.

SECTION 16‑23‑465. Additional penalty for unlawfully carrying pistol or firearm into business selling alcoholic liquors, beers or wines for on‑premises consumption.

In addition to the penalties provided for by Sections 16‑11‑330 and 16‑23‑460 and by Article 1 of Chapter 23 of Title 16, a person convicted of carrying a pistol or firearm into a business which sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Here the key word is INTO. If it were "Under One Roof", a bar in a shopping mall would put the whole mall of limits for concealed carry. This is not the case.



Unlike Ohio, places not prohibited by law, that post no carry signs, must post a sign that conforms to state regulations. If not, there is no force of law behind it. For example, if a barber shop has a "NO Guns Allowed" sigh posted on the door, it must be a certain height, size and contain the proper wording, or it is the same as no sign at all. If you are discovered with a weapon in that place and are asked to leave, you must do so. Or you will be charged with trespassing.



This is my understanding of the law. If I am wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

You are correct, sir.

dosei
07-15-2008, 09:06
SC is a very gun friendly state. Though like Ohio, to carry in a place that sells alcohol for consumption is a big no-no.

SECTION 16‑23‑465. Additional penalty for unlawfully carrying pistol or firearm into business selling alcoholic liquors, beers or wines for on‑premises consumption.

In addition to the penalties provided for by Sections 16‑11‑330 and 16‑23‑460 and by Article 1 of Chapter 23 of Title 16, a person convicted of carrying a pistol or firearm into a business which sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Here the key word is INTO. If it were "Under One Roof", a bar in a shopping mall would put the whole mall of limits for concealed carry. This is not the case.



Unlike Ohio, places not prohibited by law, that post no carry signs, must post a sign that conforms to state regulations. If not, there is no force of law behind it. For example, if a barber shop has a "NO Guns Allowed" sigh posted on the door, it must be a certain height, size and contain the proper wording, or it is the same as no sign at all. If you are discovered with a weapon in that place and are asked to leave, you must do so. Or you will be charged with trespassing.



This is my understanding of the law. If I am wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

Key words to take close note of:
Additional penalty for unlawfully carrying

This only provides for an additional penalty for someone that is ILLEGALLY carrying a concealed weapon. If you look at the part of the SC law that covers places where a CWP holder CANNOT carry...you will NOT find any mention of places that serve alcohol for consumtion...

(M) A permit issued pursuant to this section does not authorize a permit holder to carry a concealable weapon into a:

(1) police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or any other law enforcement office or facility;

(2) detention facility, prison, or jail or any other correctional facility or office;

(3) courthouse or courtroom;

(4) polling place on election days;

(5) office of or the business meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special purpose district;

(6) school or college athletic event not related to firearms;

(7) daycare facility or pre school facility;

(8) place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law;

(9) church or other established religious sanctuary unless express permission is given by the appropriate church official or governing body; or

(10) hospital, medical clinic, doctor’s office, or any other facility where medical services or procedures are performed unless expressly authorized by the employer.


Anyone see it in there....that's right, it isn't....:faint:

v65magnafan
07-15-2008, 09:25
Also be advised that carrying a concealed knife with a blade over 2 inches is illegal in South Carolina.:

http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm#16-23-460

http://www.scstatehouse.net/code/t16c023.htm#16-23-405


Concealed. So, if the top of my Spyd and the carry clip are visible, it's not concealed?

Also, my permits aren't valid in SC and I'll be there in a couple of weeks. I can have it loaded in my glovebox or console, and loaded in my hotel room. I guess it must be unloaded in transport from my auto to my hotel room. Would loaded mags separate from firearm but in the same bag be acceptable?

AB1136
07-15-2008, 10:27
I guess it must be unloaded in transport from my auto to my hotel room. Would loaded mags separate from firearm but in the same bag be acceptable?

It does not need to be unloaded to transport the weapon from the car to the place of residence.

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SECTION 23-31-230. Carrying concealed weapons between automobile and accommodation.

Notwithstanding any provision of law, any person may carry a concealable weapon from an automobile or other motorized conveyance to a room or other accommodation he has rented and upon which an accommodations tax has been paid.
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AB1136
07-15-2008, 10:55
Deleted....

VB14
07-15-2008, 11:07
Here's (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10870244&postcount=5) what I posted about carrying in bars in the other thread.

Magicmanmb
07-21-2008, 08:55
That is correct, you can NOT legally carry in any publicly owned buildings. The ONLY way to be exempted is to get permission from the person in charge of the property prior to carrying.


In most counties it means the county or city adminstrator. A few years ago the Mayor was refused permission by the city manager to carry into city hall

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