Bringing a gun to New York

[john_nicee]

Ok, here's the thing:

I'm going to college in NY, live in Florida.
My school aint in such a good neighborhood, I guess you could say (uncle was stabbed there, robberies, drugs, etc.) so I'd really feel comfortable with a little friend by my side. I know NY is ANAL about gun laws, so I want to know how I would go about bringing my glock 22 to NY legally. Do I just bring it? Hi-Cap mags?, etc.

Might sound like a stupid question, but I'd rather get ridiculed then get locked up.

Thanks guys.

[Nicky D]

If you want to stay legal then leave it home. NY is NOT a gun friendly place to be caught with an unregistered gun.

[Guod]

New York City, or New York? From what I have heard it makes a big difference, but bringing one to NY state is no picnic either I believe.

My advice would be to find another school :)

[NYC Drew]

No. You cannot, under any circumstance legally "bring" your handgun into NY UNLESS you are already a sworn, commissioned Law Enforcement officer. Possession of an unlicensed handgun in NY is an automatic 42 month sentence. Possession of post ban mags with capacities exceeding 10 rounds is also a felony.

I hate to be blunt, but you really should have given your safety, security and well being more consideration BEFORE enrolling. To say your school is not in "a good neighborhood" means what, exactly? Crime happens everywhere, and most often where people are either careless, lacking in situational awareness, or are involved in criminal activity.

'Drew

[ICARRY2]

Below is website that will provide you with a phone number to call about how to legally bring a gun with you to NY.

Rockland County Clerk
http://www.rocklandcountyclerk.com/pistol_license.html

I believe if you are moving to NY you must leave your gun in the state your moving from, in your case Florida. Once you have moved to NY you will need to go through the process of obtaining the correct permits for each gun. After that you may bring your gun with you to NY. I am not sure if you can ship them directly to your residence or if you have to use a NY FFL.

[NYC Drew]

Below is website that will provide you with a phone number to call about how to legally bring a gun with you to NY.

Rockland County Clerk
http://www.rocklandcountyclerk.com/pistol_license.html

I believe if you are moving to NY you must leave your gun in the state your moving from, in your case Florida. Once you have moved to NY you will need to go through the process of obtaining the correct permits for each gun. After that you may bring your gun with you to NY. I am not sure if you can ship them directly to your residence or if you have to use a NY FFL.

Every handgun that lawfully enters NY must do so either thru law enforcement, or thru a FFL, no exceptions.

To possess a handgun in NY, one must be over 21, and have lived in his/her county for a minimum of six months, and will need 3 or 4 references who also live in that county.

Depending on the county, you either get paper or plastic permits. Permits are actually "permit to possess" each handgun you own.

'Drew

[Dean]

Automatic forty-two months in jail, for a gun?
A 400 dollar fee for a pistol license application?
A felony, to have a normal hi cap magazine?

Cancel the move.
Do yourself a favor and forget New York all together.

[Oldskoolfan]

Florida has a lot of nice schools. Where are you going in New York? And what is your major?

[speedlace]

Automatic forty-two months in jail, for a gun?
A 400 dollar fee for a pistol license application?
A felony, to have a normal hi cap magazine?

Cancel the move.
Do yourself a favor and forget New York all together.
What he said.

:)

[dksck]

When my wife died seven years ago, I had no family here and several of her family members in New York were in poor health and needed someone to care for them. So, I planned on moving to New York. After trying several times to find someone to hold my handguns here while I moved to New York, established residency and applied for permits, I decided that it simply was not possible. I even sold 90% of my handguns, but it still wasn't possible financially. In spite of caring for my wife's family deeply, there was no way that I could afford to move to the state of New York. You would be well served to find another school. There is no school or program in that state of which the equal cannot be found elsewhere. Best of luck -- Steve

[raysheen]

Here is a typical scenario if you are moving to NYS (not NYC). 1. Leave guns at home 2. Move here and get a NYC driver's license right away 3. Pick up application at county clerk/sheriff's office 4. Apply for your permit (some places you will have to wait, and all places will require you have references) 5. Wait for your permit - some counties will have it to you in a couple of weeks while other counties will take upwards of a year to get it to you even though the law states they have 6 months to issue. 6. In the meantime have the guns transferred into the state to a NYS FFL who will hold them until your permit comes through. 7. Get permit and you are good to go. Drop me a line with any questions you may have...I'm currently a temporary NYS resident and recently went through the same process.

[hagar]

I would not live in NYS again if they offer me double the salary I'm making now, even though I still have a Monroe county permit...

I had this friend from the UK in AZ, when I met him, he was as anti gun as could be, but camping with me and my hunting buddies soon changed his mind, and I turned him intio a gun nut. He bought a G19, a 10/22, semi auto shotgun and a bunch more. He got offered an 18 month contract in NYC for really good money. After 18 months he came back to AZ, and I asked him what did he do with his stuff. "Oh, I left it in storage, except the Glock. That I took to NYC and kept it in my briefcase". :wow:

He was pretty indignant when I told him he would have done 2 years in jail for that if caught...:supergrin:

[Bozz]

It sounds like the process is doable, but you definately MUST wait til you can be legal to have it... would be shameful to start your college education out by getting thrown in the clink.

NY is not a gun-friendly state -- so as others have stated.... if you can go someplace else to college, you might want to do that. If not, go through the painstaking process and be prepared to be unarmed for your tenure there... cuz its a good chance you won't get the process done without problems.

Bozz

[NYC Drew]

If he is just starting out college, chances are, he is under 21 (ok to own handguns in FL under 21).

You must be over 21 in NY to possess handguns.

'Drew

[coltm4223]

My issue was getting one out of NY. I bought a 1911 from a gunsmith and I was only 18 yrs old(military). The gunsmith agreed to keep possession of the 1911 until the following weekend when I could drive it home to CT where I have a permit to carry. The problem was I was illegal to possess in NY and Mass. So being 18 and having no fear and very little common sense I broke it down and locked it my tool box in my trunk. Made it through NY and into Mass sweating bullets and not driving within 5mph of the speed limit. Then when I crossed the CT line I stopped the car on the side of the road put the gun together loaded up stuffed it in my waistband(mexican carry, remember I said no common sense) and flipped off Mass never to return until I was a Fed LEO. That was my escape from NY.

[guitarkid]

Just another in a long list of reasons why I do no business (personal or professional) in New York. I choose to handle my affairs and spend my money in states and cities that respect the constitutional rights of citizens, thus New York is a "no fly" zone on my travels. I even avoid flying into a New York airport on my way overseas.

So, while their elected "leaders" think they are doing such a good job, they have only effectively disarmed their honest and law abiding citizens and ensured that business people like me avoid their state lines like the plague!

[Tweek's Turbos]

I am going back with some friends for the 4th. One of them is alphebet soup, so I will just give it to him to bring up. My Uncle is a sportsman, and his Brother is a retired 'smith. It won't be in my possesion, but he will at least get to see it legally.

[NYC Drew]

Just another in a long list of reasons why I do no business (personal or professional) in New York. I choose to handle my affairs and spend my money in states and cities that respect the constitutional rights of citizens, thus New York is a "no fly" zone on my travels. I even avoid flying into a New York airport on my way overseas.

So, while their elected "leaders" think they are doing such a good job, they have only effectively disarmed their honest and law abiding citizens and ensured that business people like me avoid their state lines like the plague!


Posts like yours always make me chuckle.

Really, even if there were 100,000 like you (and there are), NY - as does every other state, plays the music, and you dance if you want to, or not want to. If you've ever been to Central Park on a Sunday, or Madison Sq Garden, or Times Square, or the Great White Way, you would realize just how tinny and futile your protestations sound.

Is NY a sucky place for gun owners? Yes. Too many hoops and caveats.

But, it is the safest largest city in the entire country. I know, you're going to whip up a 1/2 dozen cases of people who were badly disfigured, raped, or killed.

Yes, this is a tactic I often use too, so I ask you, what of the other 45 MILLION people who flow thru the city each year, who don't suffer as much as a scraped knee from their visit?

The only people that NY has really disarmed are honest and lawabiding citizens...from other states...and if you are savvy enough, getting a pistol license in NY as an out of stater is not that difficult.


Last; every time I venture into Times Square, or Grand Central Station, or Penn Station, or MSG, or the Met, or MoMA, it is a sobering reminder that I need more training, because I have never been to any of those places, and ran a scenario thru my mind about taking a shot, and feeling even 70% comfortable of only hitting the perp.

'Drew

[NYC Drew]

I am going back with some friends for the 4th. One of them is alphabet soup, so I will just give it to him to bring up. My Uncle is a sportsman, and his Brother is a retired 'smith. It won't be in my possession, but he will at least get to see it legally.

Give him what?

Who gets to see it legally?


'Drew

[concrete]

My advice would be to find another school :)

+1
No need to look too far as there are many fine colleges & universities in Florida.
Not certain what your majoring in, but I am certain that any one of the fine Florida schools can help you achieve your goals every bit as well as this NYC school you are planning to attend.
All without the hassle of disarming you and keeping you from practicing one of your basic fundamental rights.

No offense Drew, but after spending 18 years of my life in NYC, I can personally attest that the good things about NYC do not outweigh one's right to this most precious American fundamental.

By the way, Go Bulls!!!

[NYC Drew]

+1
...

No offense Drew, but after spending 18 years of my life in NYC, I can personally attest that the good things about NYC do not outweigh one's right to this most precious American fundamental.

By the way, Go Bulls!!!

No offense taken Concrete! :)

[PAGunner]

No. You cannot, under any circumstance legally "bring" your handgun into NY UNLESS you are already a sworn, commissioned Law Enforcement officer. Possession of an unlicensed handgun in NY is an automatic 42 month sentence. Possession of post ban mags with capacities exceeding 10 rounds is also a felony

Unless of course SCOTUS ruled very broadly and in favor the the 2nd amendment. We will find out very soon, today is June 19th, they have a little over a week to make public their decision! (I'm keeping my fingers crossed).

[Timberwulf]

I don't think that ruling will automatically invalidate all of the gun bans on the books though (I suppose they could issue that statement, but I doubt it).

If the DC Ban does get upheld as unconstitutional, you might still have to challenge it in other states/cities (Chicago, NYC) before you could get it reversed.

You may beat the rap, but you definitely won't beat the ride. And appeals can take a while.

[sigdeputy]

I don't know how ya do it Drew. Living in Texas, I am used to the rather gun-friendly state we've become. I can't imagine living someplace where I would be so restricted.

I recall a recent gun transaction I did with a person in a very unfriendly gun state. I shipped the gun to his FFL. He was all excited because he got to see the gun when it arrived. I mean just look at it. He had to register it and wait for it to be approved before he could actually take possession of it. That's crazy. God Bless you folks who have to endure such anti-gun nonsense.

I guess we've made huge progress over the last 20 years. Hopefully we can get the last few holdouts on board one day soon.

[PAGunner]

I don't think that ruling will automatically invalidate all of the gun bans on the books though (I suppose they could issue that statement, but I doubt it).

If the DC Ban does get upheld as unconstitutional, you might still have to challenge it in other states/cities (Chicago, NYC) before you could get it reversed.

You may beat the rap, but you definitely won't beat the ride. And appeals can take a while.

Uhm, you don't appeal SCOTUS, there is no court higher. Roberts is a smart man, he could easily write an opinion that is clear as the sun mid day with not a cloud in the sky. But your correct, they may just address the DC ban or they could give a complete interpretation on the 2nd amendment, which would invalidate the Sullivan Act (read the history on that law) in NY.

[Gunnut 45/454]

Gentlemen -your never going to change NY's gun unfreindlyness!!! If anything it's getting worse!! They are so entrenched with the Anti-gun crowd and Dumocrats it's sickening!! :( I'm so glad I left it many years ago-and I'll never go back EVER!!

[bennwj]

I'll assume you are driving from Florida to New York. I'll further assume you will enter New York State on Interstate 81. Just as you cross the border from PA to NY you will see a large Sign on your right. The sign will say, "Welcome to New York the Empire State" Just below that you will see another sign that says, "Handgun Law in effect".

Under no circumstances will you be able to legally bring your handgun into the People's Republic of New York. Violating the Sullivan act by possessing your gun is a MANDATORY one year in Jail. Remember Bernard Goetz...the "subway vigilante"? He was not sent to jail for shooting the muggers (three I think) in the subway. The shootings were ruled justifiable. He went to jail for doing it with an unlicensed gun.

I am still legally a resident of NY because I am active duty military and I have a "Pistol Permit" as it is called in those parts, and mine is (fortunately) unrestricted.

I got smart and left there in 1987 and have spent most of the last 20 years in North Carolina. A gun friendly state.

[Timberwulf]

Sorry PAGunner, I didn't mean appeal the Supreme Court Ruling, I meant that unless they specifically repeal all gun bans throughout the country that it will take effort and likely appeals to get a ban in a place like NY or Chicago overturned as well.

:)

[PAGunner]

Sorry PAGunner, I didn't mean appeal the Supreme Court Ruling, I meant that unless they specifically repeal all gun bans throughout the country that it will take effort and likely appeals to get a ban in a place like NY or Chicago overturned as well.

:)

Oh absolutely, they could rule very narrowly, which would be the cowardly thing for them to do. I don't have much faith in SCOTUS because of their history, but something tells me maybe, just maybe they will get it right. Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito all see the writing on the wall in an Obama administration, I'm guessing they may want to pre-empt any BS unconstitutional legislation by clearly outlining what 2nd amendment means.

[mark72005]

I love New York City, I travel there several times a year, and if it weren't for this inability to defend yourself I'd definitely consider living there.

[v65magnafan]

Under no circumstances will you be able to legally bring your handgun into the People's Republic of New York.



I travel by auto through NYS with handguns. I said through. Federal law permits a legal gun owner to travel through NYS, NJ, etc. with a handgun provided that you are travelling from one place where you can legally possess to another place where you can legally possess. You must take a direct route with no unreasonable stops (bathroom or fuel stops probably OK) with you guns unloaded, ammo locked, gun locked in a case and then locked in the trunk. I take the added precaution of trigger locks. The federal law preempts any state law.

But violate this and you are screwed.

[ICARRY2]

No. You cannot, under any circumstance legally "bring" your handgun into NY UNLESS you are already a sworn, commissioned Law Enforcement officer. Possession of an unlicensed handgun in NY is an automatic 42 month sentence. Possession of post ban mags with capacities exceeding 10 rounds is also a felony.


I was just reading some of NYS gun laws. They are harsh.

Possessing an unloaded gun is a class A misdemeanor.
Possessing a loaded gun is a class C felony. 3 1/2 years in prison.
Possessing a magazine holding more than 10 rounds is a class D felony.

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS Click on Penal law and read articles 265, 60, 70.

Drew, do you have anything to add that I may have missed?

The only people that NY has really disarmed are honest and lawabiding citizens...from other states...and if you are savvy enough, getting a pistol license in NY as an out of stater is not that difficult.'Drew

So how does an out of stater get a NYS permit to possess or ccw?

[kensteele]

....The federal law preempts any state law.



hehe, yeah tell that to nys.

i think you are making a big assumption or at least not looking at the real picture (as in federal law preempts state law in the courtroom not on the streets. i would never depend on the federal peaceable journey laws to get me thru the "bad" states.

i think you also added the word "unreasonable" by mistake. i believe if you are changing a flat tire and a trooper stops to see if you need help and he sees something he doesn't like...... :shocked:

:supergrin:

[93GT]

Well, you guys just solidified the decision I made to avoid NYS like the plague for the rest of my life.

[NYC Drew]

I was just reading some of NYS gun laws. They are harsh.

Possessing an unloaded gun is a class A misdemeanor.
Possessing a loaded gun is a class D felony.
Possessing a magazine holding more than 10 rounds is a class D felony.

Here are some links for you guys to read if you are thinking of bringing a gun to NYS illegally.

http://law.justia.com/newyork/codes/penal/idx_pen0p3tpa265.html

http://law.justia.com/newyork/codes/penal/idx_pen0p2tea70.html

http://law.justia.com/newyork/codes/penal/idx_pen0p2tea60.html

http://law.justia.com/newyork/codes/penal/idx_pen0p4twa400.html

By the way, this website www.justia.com (http://www.justia.com) is a great website and it is very easy to find what you are looking for.

Drew, do you have anything to add that I may have missed?



So how does an out of stater get a NYS permit to possess or ccw?


Possession of ANY handgun now is no longer a misdemeanor. It is a felony. 42 month minimum sentence, + any "specials" (drugs, ammo, commission of another "crime").

Out of stater get a NYS permit if the powers that be determine there is a need. Typically, business people. Just about every diamond dealer on 47th (?) St in Manhattan either has a gun in their store, qualifies for a permit, or has an actual permit. Many of them live in CT, NJ, and not in NYC.

'Drew

[mark72005]

I travel by auto through NYS with handguns. I said through. Federal law permits a legal gun owner to travel through NYS, NJ, etc. with a handgun provided that you are travelling from one place where you can legally possess to another place where you can legally possess. You must take a direct route with no unreasonable stops (bathroom or fuel stops probably OK) with you guns unloaded, ammo locked, gun locked in a case and then locked in the trunk. I take the added precaution of trigger locks. The federal law preempts any state law.

But violate this and you are screwed.

I wonder if your gun is say a Glock 19 with a 15 round factory magazine if that's true, because possessing one of those in New York State is a felony. Seems like a sticky area for which I would not want to be the test case.

[NYC Drew]

I wonder if your gun is say a Glock 19 with a 15 round factory magazine if that's true, because possessing one of those in New York State is a felony. Seems like a sticky area for which I would not want to be the test case.

Providing you have clearance, you can go from Maine to Florida with a fully automatic short barreled suppressed AR15 type gun and drive thru NY - no problem.

[ICARRY2]

Possession of ANY handgun now is no longer a misdemeanor. It is a felony. 42 month minimum sentence, + any "specials" (drugs, ammo, commission of another "crime").

Out of stater get a NYS permit if the powers that be determine there is a need. Typically, business people. Just about every diamond dealer on 47th (?) St in Manhattan either has a gun in their store, qualifies for a permit, or has an actual permit. Many of them live in CT, NJ, and not in NYC.

'Drew

When did they change the law? Was it just this session and they have not updated thier website? I just went to NYS website and it still says an unloaded gun is still a misdemeanor. Could you provide a link to the change.

Thanks IC2.

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menuf.cgi

§ 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic stun
gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, metal knuckles,
chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type slingshot or
slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu star";

Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A
misdemeanor.

[revel8]

move to CT. somewhere like stamford maybe

[Medic721]

Aside from the restrict6ions here in NYS, just be aware that anywhere you choose to go to school, the college or university may restrict firearms on campus.

-Mike.

[cardinal25]

***** states like NY/NJ. Let the criminals run wild with weapons and keep them out of the hands of lawful citizens. Really pisses me off.

[NYC Drew]

When did they change the law? Was it just this session and they have not updated thier website? I just went to NYS website and it still says an unloaded gun is still a misdemeanor. Could you provide a link to the change.

Thanks IC2.

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menuf.cgi

§ 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic stun
gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, metal knuckles,
chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type slingshot or
slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu star";

Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A
misdemeanor.

Sorry,

I should not post when tired.

It's 3 1/2yrs for possession of a LOADED handgun.

[Gunnut 45/454]

So to the OP bottom line spend your college dollars in a state that respects your rights!! There are many,many colleges that are better in gun freindly states!! We need to vote with our money as well as are ballots!! ;)

[GMAN40]

Ok, here's the thing:

I'm going to college in NY, live in Florida.
My school aint in such a good neighborhood, I guess you could say (uncle was stabbed there, robberies, drugs, etc.) so I'd really feel comfortable with a little friend by my side. I know NY is ANAL about gun laws, so I want to know how I would go about bringing my glock 22 to NY legally. Do I just bring it? Hi-Cap mags?, etc.

Might sound like a stupid question, but I'd rather get ridiculed then get locked up.

Thanks guys.

I would'nt do it. Find a different way or weapon to defend yourself.

[another okie]

I think the definition of "firearm" in that statute is a handgun or a shotgun with a barrel less than 18", so perhaps if you are concerned about home defense you should buy a 20" barrelled Remington 870. But it would also be prudent to check with a New York lawyer.

[Medic721]

You haven't said where in New York State you are going, but if it is in New York City's 5 boroughs, then you need a permit to possess a rifle or shotgun there as well.

-Mike.

[Cody Jarrett]

NY is not a gun-friendly state -- so as others have stated.... Bozz
It's not gun friendly to non-residents. And NYC is not friendly to anyone. The rest of the state has less restrictions than most of the so-called "gun friendly" states like VA, TX, NC, etc. Yes, residents need a license but only the dregs of society can't qualify. And it isn't $400 all over the state, only in 1 or 2 counties ... About $110 gets the CCW for life in most of the state.

I just question why anyone would come here when most of us are looking to get out of this over-taxed state!

[Cody Jarrett]

When did they change the law? Was it just this session and they have not updated thier website? I just went to NYS website and it still says an unloaded gun is still a misdemeanor. Could you provide a link to the change.

Thanks IC2.

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menuf.cgi

§ 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic stun
gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, metal knuckles,
chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type slingshot or
slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu star";

Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A
misdemeanor.
In 2006 the NYS Penal was amended moving possession of a loaded firearm from 265.02 to 265.03. This increased the penalty from a D to C felony. The charge was previously defined under 265.02(4) which was repealed in 2006. The Penal Law found on many of the web sites does not reflect the most current chages. One should consult the Criminal Law handbook of NY - 2008 Edition for the most current revisions.

[ICARRY2]

In 2006 the NYS Penal was amended moving possession of a loaded firearm from 265.02 to 265.03. This increased the penalty from a D to C felony. The charge was previously defined under 265.02(4) which was repealed in 2006. The Penal Law found on many of the web sites does not reflect the most current chages. One should consult the Criminal Law handbook of NY - 2008 Edition for the most current revisions.

Thanks for the updated info. Is there any website you know of that has the current info?

I found it. It took a while.

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS Click on penal law. Read articles 265, 60, 70.

They did a bad job of updating the sentencing laws. Some of them do not apply anymore.
But possession of a loaded firearms is a class 3 felony with a minimum 3 1/2 years in prison. That is steep!

I think NYS needs a new IT guy to update their website.

I found the new laws through... http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/state_statutes2#criminal_code

[v65magnafan]

It's not gun friendly to non-residents. And NYC is not friendly to anyone. The rest of the state has less restrictions than most of the so-called "gun friendly" states like VA, TX, NC, etc.


True. But pick your counties carefully. For example, Niagara County, I hear, is friendly. Erie County, next door, is not. New York City? If you transport payroll, or diamonds, or something, you may get a CCW but only for the time you are transporting.

Pick your NYS county carefully. You may be able to carry in NYS, but not in NYC.

[PAGunner]

True. But pick your counties carefully. For example, Niagara County, I hear, is friendly. Erie County, next door, is not. New York City? If you transport payroll, or diamonds, or something, you may get a CCW but only for the time you are transporting.

Pick your NYS county carefully. You may be able to carry in NYS, but not in NYC.

Never really understood that whole NYC thing about why money or diamonds are worth protecting, but somehow your life is not?

[NYC Drew]

True. But pick your counties carefully. For example, Niagara County, I hear, is friendly. Erie County, next door, is not. New York City? If you transport payroll, or diamonds, or something, you may get a CCW but only for the time you are transporting.

Pick your NYS county carefully. You may be able to carry in NYS, but not in NYC.

The only time you can "pick" a county, is when you decide on where to live!

You cannot, under normal circumstances, arbitrarily decide on what county to apply to for a permit.

'Drew