Road Rage shooting in Jeffersonville, Indiana....

[KYGlock23]

I think this lady is in real trouble.

http://www.wave3.com/global/story.asp?s=8518434


LOUISVILLE (WAVE) - WAVE 3 News has the police documents and the 911 calls that show what happened in Tuesday's road rage shooting. It happened just before 3 p.m. at 10th Street and Allison Lane in Jeffersonville. WAVE 3's Janelle MacDonald has been going through the police reports and talking to witnesses.

Police have told WAVE 3 they have not charged the shooter, 39 year old Yolanda Parrish, because of her claims the shooting is a case of self-defense. Legal experts we talked with say based on the police report and what a witness told WAVE 3, it may not be so clear cut. You be the judge.

Dispatcher: Jeff Police. What's your emergency?

Parrish: Yes, I have shot somebody up here on 10th street, up here by the Thornton's.

Dispatcher: Ok, you did?

Parrish: Yes, he ran up on my car.

The fight that ended like that started several blocks back according to a witness who didn't want to be identified. The witness says she "Saw a guy, the motorcyclist, weaving in and out of cars like he was in a hurry."

Another witness told police she saw the motorcycle driver, 52 year old Wesley Mosier actually block Yolanda Parrish's SUV from changing lanes and cut between vehicles. Then, traffic came to a stop at the light.

The witness says, "He stopped, got off his bike. I thought that she had hit him and then I turned around and he was walking back to the SUV and I heard her say, 'Oh no you don't.' He got up to the door, she said, 'Oh no you don't,' hit him and shot him."

Legal experts tell WAVE 3 exactly who opened the door could be key to claims of self-defense.

If Mosier did, it could be perceived as a threat and Parrish would be justified in using deadly force. If Parrish opened her own door like we just heard from the witness, that clouds the issue.

Also a factor is what our witness says happened after Mosier had been shot. Legal experts say it sheds light on the credibility and state of mind of the shooter.

The witness says, "He fell to the ground and then they got out and was over the top of him cussing him, her son was kicking him."

The witness also heard the claims of self defense. She's just not sure what Parrish was defending herself against.

"I didn't see him do anything except for get off the motorcycle and walk back to the vehicle. Why didn't she roll up her window, lock the door? And then if he would have busted the window, yeah, I could see that being self defense," the witness said.

WAVE 3 tried to call Parrish and we haven't heard back.

Mosier was listed in serious condition at University Hospital in Louisville. Police told WAVE 3 they have not been able to talk to him because he's in a medically induced coma.

[speedlace]

"Oh no you don't." :50cal:

I watched the vids and that witness doesn't help the woman's case.

:)

[Tx-G30]

'chicks cannot hole de smoke, dats wut dit iz"

[KYGlock23]

She just should have left the scene. Since she opened the door of her truck - they are going to make her the aggressor. But WTF! Her and her son kick the guy after he has been shot in the chest and are cursing him!

[GLOCK_27]

She just should have left the scene. Since she opened the door of her truck - they are going to make her the aggressor. But WTF! Her and her son kick the guy after he has been shot in the chest and are cursing him!

they cant be for sure that she opened the door. its he said she said right now. they also said the guy on the bike when to jail years ago for muder, i think he got what he deserved

[KYGlock23]

they cant be for sure that she opened the door. its he said she said right now. they also said the guy on the bike when to jail years ago for muder, i think he got what he deserved

Uh, you must have watched a different video than I did. He was convicted as an accessory for involuntary manslaughter way back in 1974! Who knows what that could have been back then. The witness is stating that she opened the door first and if that is the case this woman will be in trouble. I believe in CCW as much as anyone but from what it sounds like coming from the witnesses - this lady was probably not justified.

[GLOCK_27]

some surveillance video of it http://www.wlky.com/video/16653972/index.html

[Captain38]

There's been an INCORRECT assumption that this event occurred in Kentucky. Instead, it took place in Jeffersonville, Clark County, Indiana, just across the river. Indiana authorities are investigating and Indiana law will apply! The news media reporting the story, however, IS in Kentucky.

[Thx-1138]

some surveillance video of it http://www.wlky.com/video/16653972/index.html

Anybody have a link to the video where I don't have to install a Micro$haft product to view it?

[KYGlock23]

There's been an INCORRECT assumption that this event occurred in Kentucky. Instead, it took place in Jeffersonville, Clark County, Indiana, just across the river. Indiana authorities are investigating and Indiana law will apply! The news media reporting the story, however, IS in Kentucky.

Captain,

You are correct and I knew that beforehand. I however incorrectly mentioned Louisville in the title of the thread. Thanks for pointing this out!

[RussP]

There's been an INCORRECT assumption that this event occurred in Kentucky. Instead, it took place in Jeffersonville, Clark County, Indiana, just across the river. Indiana authorities are investigating and Indiana law will apply! The news media reporting the story, however, IS in Kentucky.

Captain,

You are correct and I knew that beforehand. I however incorrectly mentioned Louisville in the title of the thread. Thanks for pointing this out!
Took care of that for y'all.


:cool:

[KYGlock23]

Thanks Russ!

[magiaaron]

I actually live in Jeffersonville. She was about a block from the high school when this took place.

The story (as best as we know) is that she was driving an SUV and cut him off. They continued to drive down the street and were hollering back and forth over what happened. When they got up to the stoplight where this shooting happened, he got off his bike and she was leaned out the window screaming at him. He took off his helmet, and as he got up to the door, she kicked it open and hit him with it. He shoved the door shut and raised his hand at her. She then shot him in the chest. He collapsed and, as he was trying to crawl off the roadway, she and her 15 year old son got out of the vehicle. According to the witnesses, the boy was hunkered over this guy screaming and cursing at him as he tried to crawl off the road and momma was standing over him too doing the same. According to a couple witnesses, they were also kicking him as he crawled out of the roadway.

I've heard the 911 call. She called AFTER she shot him, and didn't sound too riled up. She sounded kinda pumped on adrenaline, but... You know how you'd be kinda upset if a situation developed to that point? I can't explain it, but she wasn't too upset that she had to shoot the fella.

Anyway, the info's just been given to our county prosecutor. She should be in trouble. She shouldn't have been screaming, and really, her leaning out the window cursing as he got off the bike isn't too indicative of a defensive attitude. Then, she kicked it open and he shoved it shut. That's not really in too much dispute. Her claim for why she shot him was she was in fear of her child's life. Come on... He was a 15 year old. Anyway, the real issue now on this prosecution rests on how many letters the prosecutor's office gets. It's going to be majorly political because of elections.

-magiaaron

[blownhemi]

Don't get off the bike:upeyes:

[longgonedays]

Me thinks Yolanda is going to get charged eventually. If they'll actually find her guilty and actually punish her is a different story.

I'm sure there will be a thread about her son in the next 5 years as well. With the usual "He was such a good boy" "He studied hard and fought against the odds" kind of statements.

[C4talyst]

Regardless of what happens here, past experiences have shown me it's unwise to vacate your vehicle in the roadway and approach another vehicle on foot, especially if you could be perceived as a threat.

I once drew down on a guy who did that to me at a stoplight after he had been driving aggressively and thought I had purposefully cut him off. He called the police and they asked him why he approached my vehicle on foot at a stoplight...that was the end of that.

[magiaaron]

I'll go ahead and add this too. Guess what just came to light? So, March 31st, she did the same thing and got into a road rage incident where she pulled a gun on someone else. She didn't shoot them, but, apparently, she just thinks she can do whatever she wants without consequences. She just released a statement through our local black representative, Christopher 2X (Yes, that's really his name "2X") stating that she is deeply saddened. She's also retained an attorney. Interesting. When she was giving a statement to one of the officers, she was very angry and when he told her to calm down, she said, "How can I calm down!? He was going to hit me." I mean, no concern whatsoever for the fact she put a bullet into someone. So, yeah... Hope she gets some jail time.

-magiaaron

[kotaus]

I'm suprised that people who carry for self defense would be so quick to say she should be in trouble, knowing that she was sitting in her car and was approached by a strange man.

To me, the fact that he got off of his motorcycle and approached another driver (a woman at that) is the clincher. He instigated it. If he had stayed on his bike, none of it would've happened. As for kicking him and cussing him after he was shot...well, I guess they showed him.

[C4talyst]

So far, she doesn't sound like someone who should be carrying...I have a feeling she's gonna get straightened out.

[mark72005]

person not bothered at all by this: "I just shot somebody who run up on my vehicle"

normal person: "Send an ambulance, there's a man shot here, please come quick!" (said hysterically)


It doesn't sound like she was justified. She could just roll up the window and lock the doors, call the cops. If he breaks the window or something, then draw.

But even if he broke the window and was punching me or something, I don't see that as reason to fire. If he has a knife, yeah, fire. I don't see any risk of death or permanent bodily injury here.

My guess is that based on her state of mind and her record of drawing on people on the roadway she'll be facing a pricey civil judgment at least.

[Daryl in Az]

mark72005 said:
But even if he broke the window and was punching me or something, I don't see that as reason to fire. If he has a knife, yeah, fire. I don't see any risk of death or permanent bodily injury here.

We had pretty much that exact situation here in Sierra Vista several years ago.

A guy was driving down the road, and saw another man hitting a woman in a parking lot. The driver drove into the parking lot, rolled down the window, and told the other man to leave the woman alone.

The beater then went to the car, reached through the window, and started hitting the driver. The driver pulled a handgun and shot him.

The driver also walked, since it was self-defense.

I'm not real sure where I'd stand on this incident. The MC rider should have stayed on his bike. He escalated the situation by getting off of his bike and approaching the vehicle.

But, I don't see the woman really being justified in shooting...yet. Simply rolling up the window and locking the door, instead of continuing to argue with the guy, might have prevented any further problems.

They both acted as agressors, so a lot will depend on state law (and if she's charged, the views of the jury and the way evidence is presented in court).

Something tells me she's going to be doing some time, although the "victim's" contributing agression might cause a lighter sentence for her.

Daryl

[Ridgeway]

I'll go ahead and add this too. Guess what just came to light? So, March 31st, she did the same thing and got into a road rage incident where she pulled a gun on someone else. She didn't shoot them, but, apparently, she just thinks she can do whatever she wants without consequences. She just released a statement through our local black representative, Christopher 2X (Yes, that's really his name "2X") stating that she is deeply saddened. She's also retained an attorney. Interesting. When she was giving a statement to one of the officers, she was very angry and when he told her to calm down, she said, "How can I calm down!? He was going to hit me." I mean, no concern whatsoever for the fact she put a bullet into someone. So, yeah... Hope she gets some jail time.

-magiaaron


had the races of teh 2 parties been the reverse, the illustrious "2x" would certainly be claiming it as a hate crime, he certainly doesn't help her case in my mind
i'm sure rev. coleman won't be far behind now...

with the first incident in mind though, this doesn't seem like a good shoot
even if it is in the end justified, it would seem to me the proper course of action would have been to drive away, unless she was blocked in

[Ridgeway]

I'm suprised that people who carry for self defense would be so quick to say she should be in trouble, knowing that she was sitting in her car and was approached by a strange man.
To me, the fact that he got off of his motorcycle and approached another driver (a woman at that) is the clincher. He instigated it. If he had stayed on his bike, none of it would've happened.
true, and barring other factors it would appear justified, but the circumstances around it don't make it quite so clear


As for kicking him and cussing him after he was shot...well, I guess they showed him.

ok, perhaps no murder charge, but charge her for the assault...he surely wasn't a threat when he was on the ground...why on earth pummel him? even if the guy was the scum of the earth and deserved it, it sure doesn't look good when your trying to claim self defense

[micro man]

IMO she is going down for this.

She has a recent history of road rage, and brandishing a gun.

She was a willing party in the event, possibly even escalating the situation.

After the shooting she gets out and curses the other party with her son, and then she and her son proceed to assault the guy who has been shot, why? There is no more threat.

Sounds to me like she has the gun to back up her poor attitude towards other.

IMO what she should have done after the shooting was:

Call 911

Get the guy that was shot to a safe position (move him out of the road).

Perform first aid to the best of her ability, until a party with better skills arrives and takes over.

One question, maybe I missed it, is she a concealed permit holder?

[INJoker]

Motorcyclist: "It's on, Cuz!"

Driver: "Oh no you DON'T!" *BLAM!*

:wavey:

[Lewsid 13]

Unless I missed it. Does she have a permit to carry the gun?

[RussP]

Breaking News:
June 20, 2008 05:35 pm
Published: June 19, 2008 12:19 pm

Jeffersonville ‘road rage’ shooter claims self-defense

The suspect in a shooting at 10th Street and Allison Lane on Tuesday is claiming self-defense, but some witnesses say the shooter overreacted.

In a 911 tape released by the Jeffersonville Police Department, Yolanda Parrish, a 39-year-old woman from Jeffersonville, admitted to shooting Wesley Mosier, a 52-year-old Corydon man.

“I have shot somebody up on 10th Street — I’m here in front of Thorntons,” she told the dispatcher. She then told the dispatcher that the man came toward her car and hit her.

Police say the shooting occurred due to road-rage between a motorcycle and SUV. Several witnesses claim Mosier was swerving in and out of traffic before stopping at the red light in front of Thorntons. Mosier got off his motorcycle and approached the SUV, according to police. Parrish then shot him in the chest with a .38-caliber revolver.

As of 4:30 p.m. on Wednesday, Mosier was listed in serious condition at University Hospital in Louisville.

One witness, a 37-year-old woman from Charlestown, said in an interview with The Evening News and Tribune, that she thinks the woman overreacted and could have pulled into the parking lot at Thorntons rather than reach for her gun. She has spoken with police but asked that her name not be published.

The witness said the victim did not appear aggressive when he approached Parrish’s SUV.

“He seemed calm and everything,” she said. She said he walked toward the driver’s window, and she hit him with the door and then shot him through the window.

“She shouted, ‘Oh no you don’t’ and opened the car door to shove him out of the way,” the witness said.

Another witness, however, told police that Mosier had an angry look on his face.

At least two witnesses listed in the police report said that Parrish and her 15-year-old son got out of the vehicle and started shouting at the man on the ground.

“After she shot him, her and her son got out of the car and was standing over him cussing him and kicking him,” one witness said.

Parrish did not respond to messages left on her home phone and cell phone.

Mosier’s parents told newsgathering partner WLKY that there is no excuse for shooting their son.

“He’s fighting for his life, and I think whoever this person is who did this, I think they don’t realize he has a family, too, and to pull out a gun and shoot someone in the chest is purely crazy,” Eva Leachman, Mosier's mother, told WLKY.

Clark County Prosecutor Steve Stewart will decide whether or not to file charges.

The victim’s injuries could have been worse if not for Micah Martin, a 25-year-old Eagle Scout from Jeffersonville. Martin was driving down 10th Street when he saw Mosier on the ground. He thought there had been a wreck.

“I just looked over and saw the gentleman trying to crawl back to Thorntons,” he said.

Martin said he was shocked to see about 15 people just standing and looking at the victim. He said police were talking to the suspects, and the man was on the ground by himself.

He pulled over and began to administer first aid to Mosier. That was when he realized he had been shot and still had a bullet inside of him. He said at one point the victim began to scream in pain but never lost consciousness and even gave some information to the police.

Martin described Mosier as being 6-foot-” or 6-2, and fairly muscular, about 220 pounds. He said the man seemed to be in fairly good spirits and even cracked a joke with police officers.

Detective Todd Hollis of the Jeffersonville Police Department said Parrish had a permit to carry the weapon. In Indiana, a person must apply to the chief of police in the municipality in which the person applies for a permit and pay an application fee. The applicant is given a background check and will not receive a license if he or she has been convicted of a felony. Applicants are not required to take any training classes.

[Dr. DaveT]

This could go either way easily.

The biker started it by approaching her. ( a potential threat )

She started it by hitting him with the car door. ( battery )

He shoved it back into her ( battery or defense ? )

He raised his hand. ( ETC. )


BOTH parties were wrong and both should be punished.

The biker got shot for being stupid, hopefully he'll be OK in the long run.

She should be charged at least for the initial battery ( if you can hit him first instead of roll up your window you should be charged ) and she and/or her son should be charged for battery for kicking the biker whan he was down and no longer a threat.

Let's look at this as another reason for us level headed GT'ers to continue to avoid confrontation and de-escalate a situation.

[pjw315]

This could go either way easily.

The biker started it by approaching her. ( a potential threat )

She started it by hitting him with the car door. ( battery )

He shoved it back into her ( battery or defense ? )

He raised his hand. ( ETC. )


BOTH parties were wrong and both should be punished.

The biker got shot for being stupid, hopefully he'll be OK in the long run.

She should be charged at least for the initial battery ( if you can hit him first instead of roll up your window you should be charged ) and she and/or her son should be charged for battery for kicking the biker whan he was down and no longer a threat.

Let's look at this as another reason for us level headed GT'ers to continue to avoid confrontation and de-escalate a situation.



In my opinion she is in big trouble we will have to watch this case and see. When you have a CPL you need to be the level headed person and not escalate something into a shooting. I personally decided when I received my CPL that I would never escalate a road rage incident and if I somehow ended up in one I would roll up the windows and lock the doors. If I have no escape route and they break a window then there will be a different story.

[Lewsid 13]

In my opinion she is in big trouble we will have to watch this case and see. When you have a CPL you need to be the level headed person and not escalate something into a shooting. I personally decided when I received my CPL that I would never escalate a road rage incident and if I somehow ended up in one I would roll up the windows and lock the doors. If I have no escape route and they break a window then there will be a different story.
I Agree with you. She had ample opportunity to move away from this situation, hell, all the way back to when it started she could have just drove away (strike one). The guy was on a motorcycle, so there is no way that he blocked her path of escape with his bike (strike two). If she indeed opened the door to her SUV to get at him, well there's (strike three). Oh....and standing over him yelling obscenities while the "child" she was trying to protect proceeded to kick him? I think that's (strike four, five, six, seven ,eight..........................) what a disgrace to the human race. I hope they prosecute and win!!!!

[RussP]

We can what if this thing all day.

magiaaron, if anything new comes up, start a new thread with the updated report.