Glock 37 yea or nay

[packinaglock]

What is ya'll opinion on the G37 ?

[DannyR]

My opinion, based on actual experience, is YEA! I received one of the first G37's in September 2003, and the first G38 in February 2005 (Serial Number ...001). I sold my G21 after getting the G37 and sold my G30 after getting the G38. They have become my all-time favorite Glocks.

[packinaglock]

I just had the winning bid on a G37 at gunbroker.com I got it for 380.00 I have never shot one. I guess I'll find out soon.

[bac1023]

I'm not a GAP fan myself.

[jbremount]

What is ya'll opinion on the G37 ?

IMO, Nay,Nay, and Nay again.... ultimately it's your decision.

[mastrbloata]

Well, I remember that I handled one at a show in 02'-03' and thinking, "Wow. This is really great. I like this a lot..." Then of course the ban expired and then the "SF's" were finally released. So now I'm left to wonder, "Why?" If and when the ban comes back, the "SF's" will still be around to accomodate the .45's in a ten round package. Hey, I'm not knocking it. I really liked it. But what's the point?

Great price on yours. I hope you like it!

[carbofan21]

none of the walmarts in vegas that i go to carry any .45 gap ammo

i have no need for a .45 gap pistol

[GorillaGlock21]

I am very intrigued by the GAP caliber. I am currently looking at a G30 for CC. But I can't help thinking that I should at least try out a G38. Is the added bulk and weight of the G30 really worth a few extra rounds? However I already own a G21 and stockpile of ACP, so that weighs heavily into the decision as well.

[Boris Bush]

I have no use for a 45ACP, but a moderate capacity, small size and 45 hole, why not?

I like the G38 and it will be my next Glock........

[packinaglock]

To make it an even stranger night:shocked: I am sitting in church at 6:00 Mass and my phone starts viberating I go to the bathroom to return the call ( it's my wife's girlfriend) she wants to know if Im interested in buying a G26 from a friend of hers that got layed off. I tell her I already have one and she said it has never been shot and the guy wants 350.00 for it I said sold. At that price I'll have two.

[engineer151515]

G37
My favorite Glock

What's not to like?

[M4inCA]

LOVE the GAP.

G19 frame with a short 45 Slide!!!

AWESOME!!

[windplex]

get back to us with your opinion after it arrives:)

[skyboss_4evr]

Basing my vote on my love for my G38... YEA!

[Southcross1]

I have never had a GAP.

But if I was to get one(maybe the guy downstairs in listings will trade)

I'd looked at ammo prices; WWB $22bucks for 50. Not bad

The look and feel of the GAP Glock; Fat slide, hefty 45acp look in a 9mm sized platform.

Having one of the only rounds designed by Glock; Koolaid or not, they put some thought in the round.

"So in exactly the same way that the new .300 WSM cartridge can power a 180-grain .30-caliber rifle bullet at the same velocity as the old-generation full-length .300 Winchester Magnum, without excessive pressure, the .45 GAP allows 185- and 200-grain bullets to match muzzle, downrange, and terminal performance of the .45 ACP when fired in equivalent barrel lengths."

The 45gap is a improvement of the old 45acp.

The GAP is a 45cal round with the recoil of a 40S&W. But hits as hard as the 45acp.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/ST5new45chrt3.jpg

[ljnowell]

I have never had a GAP.

But if I was to get one(maybe the guy downstairs in listings will trade)

I'd looked at ammo prices; WWB $22bucks for 50. Not bad

The look and feel of the GAP Glock; Fat slide, hefty 45acp look

Having one of the only rounds designed by Glock; Koolaid or not, they put some thought in the round.

"So in exactly the same way that the new .300 WSM cartridge can power a 180-grain .30-caliber rifle bullet at the same velocity as the old-generation full-length .300 Winchester Magnum, without excessive pressure, the .45 GAP allows 185- and 200-grain bullets to match muzzle, downrange, and terminal performance of the .45 ACP when fired in equivalent barrel lengths."

The 45gap is a improvement of the old 45acp.

The GAP is a 45cal round with the recoil of a 40S&W. But hits as hard as the 45acp.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/ST5new45chrt3.jpg

Apples to oranges. That is comparing a 200gr bullet acp vs gap. Where are the specs for a 230gr bullet? Or maybe even a little heavier? Also, 22 bucks for 50 rounds? damn, I can get 100 acp rounds for 29 bucks. Seems again the scale is tipped to the koolaid side.

[Southcross1]

Apples to oranges. That is comparing a 200gr bullet acp vs gap. Where are the specs for a 230gr bullet? Or maybe even a little heavier? Also, 22 bucks for 50 rounds? damn, I can get 100 acp rounds for 29 bucks. Seems again the scale is tipped to the koolaid side.

Just as you can't push the 40 to the 10mm level

"the .45 GAP cannot reach the velocity and energy levels as the .45 ACP with 230-grain bullets, without exceeding safe-pressure limits--at least with currently existing propellants. If you want to use that classic heavier .45 ACP bullet weight, you still need the bigger ACP case."

45acp is cheaper, by far. But the GAP hasn't been around since 1904 either. The GAP is a Glock round, the 45acp is a Colt round...bla..bla...bla.

Cheap is cheap, but having a round different then the same OL' acp, is worth another five bucks.

Makes a nice addition to the mainstream cals. A little spice at the range. At least it ain't a 38super. With a price that indicates the cases must be made of gold.

[GRR]

Well, I remember that I handled one at a show in 02'-03' and thinking, "Wow. This is really great. I like this a lot..." Then of course the ban expired and then the "SF's" were finally released. So now I'm left to wonder, "Why?" If and when the ban comes back, the "SF's" will still be around to accomodate the .45's in a ten round package. Hey, I'm not knocking it. I really liked it. But what's the point?

Great price on yours. I hope you like it!

The 21SF is still fat. Doesn't compare to the G37/G22/G17 grip frame.

[GRR]

none of the walmarts in vegas that i go to carry any .45 gap ammo

i have no need for a .45 gap pistol

I reload and I don't buy handgun ammo at Walmart. I too have no need for my GAP pistols. I also have no "need" for the 8 other Glocks I've got. I could make do with a .357 revolver. I still carry my G38 every day.

[jbremount]

I talked with a friend that worked one of Glock's GSSF competition recently. The majority of the shooters had 9mm and 40S&W guns. Then there were .45acp guns. There were no shooters with 10mm, 357sig or .45 Gaps guns. Now, I know guys that own 10mm,.357sigs,.45gap,even 9x25 dillon and .38super guns. Most roll there own ammo and finding once fired/ range pick up brass for an odd calibers is much tougher. Ammo in the stores for the odd ball calibers is harder to find. One cannot expect stores to stock ammo for calibers that do not sell much volume. You cannot make a decent profit with ammo that does not move. You will have to buy the ammo on the internet. If ammo cost is a factor, 9mm is much cheaper than .45gap!

If you like the caliber, that's ok, it's your decision.

[gvf]

The 37 is a great gun, I ccw it with little problem (Clip-Draw); it handles really nicely and is VERY accurate. As far as GAP Ammo, in my area it's only a buck or two above ACP, though I am in NY and GAP is NY State Police duty ammo - (37 is their duty gun). If you buy bulk on the net, it compares to ACP in a store.

Go to "Bulldawgs" GAP-forum on Glock Talk, under the forums for specific gun-types. They have a lot of info.

I highly recommend it. Might want to check in your area first to see if GAP is readily available, it is in all gun stores I know in my area.

[mhmills]

Once you have the G37 you will want the G38 and G39.

[carbofan21]

I talked with a friend that worked one of Glock's GSSF competition recently. The majority of the shooters had 9mm and 40S&W guns. Then there were .45acp guns. There were no shooters with 10mm, 357sig or .45 Gaps guns. Now, I know guys that own 10mm,.357sigs,.45gap,even 9x25 dillon and .38super guns. Most roll there own ammo and finding once fired/ range pick up brass for an odd calibers is much tougher. Ammo in the stores for the odd ball calibers is harder to find. One cannot expect stores to stock ammo for calibers that do not sell much volume. You cannot make a decent profit with ammo that does not move. You will have to buy the ammo on the internet. If ammo cost is a factor, 9mm is much cheaper than .45gap!

If you like the caliber, that's ok, it's your decision.


:goodpost: my sentiments exactly.

[engineer151515]

The GAP is a 45cal round with the recoil of a 40S&W. But hits as hard as the 45acp.


Far from it.

<--- Doesn't like the snappy .40

[engineer151515]

none of the walmarts in vegas that i go to carry any .45 gap ammo

i have no need for a .45 gap pistol

So, if your local Walmarts decide to only sell BB's and archery arrows, are you going to sell your guns?

[kurtiss]

I like the G38 and may try one in the future. I say try out the 37!

[Thx-1138]

I have the G39, and I love it. I won't buy a G38, but that's cause the finger grooves hit my hand wrong on the compact Glocks, and I'm not willing to modify the frame of such a fine weapon.

The G37 is on my short list of guns to own. Try it. If you don't like it, you can always sell it at a steep discount to me. :supergrin:

[Thx-1138]

Apples to oranges. That is comparing a 200gr bullet acp vs gap. Where are the specs for a 230gr bullet?

I'm glad you asked.

.45GAP 230g JHP Winchester Ranger, fired from G37, 4.5" bbl: 887 fps
.45ACP 230g JHP Winchester Ranger, fired from G21, 4.6" bbl: 871 fps

Source: GAP vs ACP Velocity Comparisons (http://home.comcast.net/~petej/45gap.45acp.plusp.htm)

[engineer151515]

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7641/gapdatast0.jpg

[Esco]

How many rounds does the G39 hold?

[Thx-1138]

How many rounds does the G39 hold?

6+1.

Of course, like all normal-sized Glocks, there are mag extensions available, both Factory and aftermarket.

[ljnowell]

Also, 22 bucks for 50 rounds? damn, I can get 100 acp rounds for 29 bucks. Seems again the scale is tipped to the koolaid side.


ill stick with my underpowered koolaid free acp.:cool:

[PAGunner]

IMO, NAY, but only because of the price of the ammo (not duty ammo, practice ammo). Practice is king and if this is gonna be your carry gun, there are better options. A fulll size gun that only holds 10 in the mag? Better options out there.

[Thx-1138]

IMO, NAY, but only because of the price of the ammo (not duty ammo, practice ammo). Practice is king and if this is gonna be your carry gun, there are better options. A fulll size gun that only holds 10 in the mag? Better options out there.

Price differences between ACP and GAP practice ammo is about $15.00 per 1000 rounds. If that's a deal-breaker, maybe you should stick with 9mm and save even more.

[PAGunner]

Price differences between ACP and GAP practice ammo is about $15.00 per 1000 rounds. If that's a deal-breaker, maybe you should stick with 9mm and save even more.

Show me where I can get GAP ammo for that price, and hell, I'll go buy a Glock 38 tomorrow.

[jlh2600]

Show me where I can get GAP ammo for that price, and hell, I'll go buy a Glock 38 tomorrow.


Quoted for B.I.C.!

T.H.X.?




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[engineer151515]

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[Napa Nick]

A fulll size gun that only holds 10 in the mag? Better options out there.[/QUOTE] - Not it you live in California.

A G38 is one of my ECG's and it is one of the most accurate guns I own.

[sphillips45]

I will stick with my 45 acp ... I see no use for the GAP Round , I had a G-37 shot it for a while did not like it at all ..

[PAGunner]

[QUOTE] - Not it you live in California.A G38 is one of my ECG's and it is one of the most accurate guns I own.

Very true, forgot about Kommiefornia and the Kommie Empire of NY, but that was a secondary complaint of mine. I'm still waiting for Thx-1138 to point me in the direction of a source of reasonably priced GAP practice ammo. If he can do this, I would very seriously consider getting the G38, as it stands now I have a USPc .45, but I just simply shoot Glocks better. I'd go with the G30, but it I have my hang ups with that, I don't like the grip (not the thickness, the fact the mag becomes part of the grip).

[engineer151515]

A fulll size gun that only holds 10 in the mag? Better options out there.

That's why all my single stack 1911's are gone. :supergrin:

[engineer151515]

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I'm still waiting for Thx-1138 to point me in the direction of a source of reasonably priced GAP practice ammo....

I'd like to see who currently sells "reasonably priced" 45ACP ammo.

I wonder when Wolf will make 45GAP.

[PAGunner]

That's why all my single stack 1911's are gone. :supergrin:

Can't say I blame you there, when I am done with school and get some real cash, I think I will buy a couple of 1911s to decorate the home bar, I don't see much use for them other than that. :supergrin:

[PAGunner]

I'd like to see who currently sells "reasonably priced" 45ACP ammo.

I wonder when Wolf will make 45GAP.

How true that statement is, but my definition of "reasonably priced" is GAP ammo priced close to what I can get ACP ammo for.

[Dean]

Hell Yea.
I can fight with it.

[Thx-1138]

Price differences between ACP and GAP practice ammo is about $15.00 per 1000 rounds. If that's a deal-breaker, maybe you should stick with 9mm and save even more.

Show me where I can get GAP ammo for that price, and hell, I'll go buy a Glock 38 tomorrow.

Georgia Arms, 185gr .45GAP, 1000 rounds, $295.00 (http://www.georgia-arms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3191)
Georgia Arms, 185gr, .45ACP, 1000 rounds, $270.00 (http://www.georgia-arms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2229)

It's a $25.00 difference at the moment. Last time I purchased from Georgia Arms (couple of months ago), I got a box of 500 for $130.00.


Here's some carry ammo comparisons:

Smoke Wagon Gear.com, FEDERAL PREM HST 45GAP 230GR HST HP, $24.95/50 (http://www.smokewagongear.com/p-411-45-gap-federal-prem-hst-45gap-230gr-hst-hp.aspx)
Smoke Wagon Gear.com, FEDERAL PREM HST 45ACP 230GR JHP, $24.95/50 (http://www.smokewagongear.com/p-420-federal-prem-hst-45acp-230gr-jhp.aspx)


I've posted several times in "Should I get a GAP?" threads about ammo. It's not the cost of ammo that's the issue; it's not even availability, per se. It's ready availability. Most of us can't just walk into any place that sells pistol ammo and get .45GAP. You can do that with .45ACP, and it's a big benefit if you're the sort who buys ammo on the way to the range. Carrying a .45GAP forces me to plan ahead. I buy in bulk to save on shipping (or go to a gun show and pay tax instead of shipping). This is the 21st Century, and finding stuff online is pretty easy.

[PAGunner]

Georgia Arms, 185gr .45GAP, 1000 rounds, $295.00 (http://www.georgia-arms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3191)
Georgia Arms, 185gr, .45ACP, 1000 rounds, $270.00 (http://www.georgia-arms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2229)

It's a $25.00 difference at the moment. Last time I purchased from Georgia Arms (couple of months ago), I got a box of 500 for $130.00.


Here's some carry ammo comparisons:

Smoke Wagon Gear.com, FEDERAL PREM HST 45GAP 230GR HST HP, $24.95/50 (http://www.smokewagongear.com/p-411-45-gap-federal-prem-hst-45gap-230gr-hst-hp.aspx)
Smoke Wagon Gear.com, FEDERAL PREM HST 45ACP 230GR JHP, $24.95/50 (http://www.smokewagongear.com/p-420-federal-prem-hst-45acp-230gr-jhp.aspx)


I've posted several times in "Should I get a GAP?" threads about ammo. It's not the cost of ammo that's the issue; it's not even availability, per se. It's ready availability. Most of us can't just walk into any place that sells pistol ammo and get .45GAP. You can do that with .45ACP, and it's a big benefit if you're the sort who buys ammo on the way to the range. Carrying a .45GAP forces me to plan ahead. I buy in bulk to save on shipping (or go to a gun show and pay tax instead of shipping). This is the 21st Century, and finding stuff online is pretty easy.

Good stuff man, I found a side that showed 230gr. federal FMJs for $350, I thought that was a decent price, but was definitely looking for something a little cheaper. My only question is how close to normal recoil do you get with the 185grs? I'd like to practice with as close to SD ammo recoil as possible.

To OP, sorry, I'm not trying to hijack the thread, I'm just trying to further the debate a bit at this point. Ammo is prices are a serious consideration. Having ammo "readily" available doesn't bother me, as long as it is available.

[Glock_XXXVII]

G37 is hands down the best Glock and I've had experience with almost all the Glocks.

[Rich77]

Apples to oranges. That is comparing a 200gr bullet acp vs gap. Where are the specs for a 230gr bullet? Or maybe even a little heavier? Also, 22 bucks for 50 rounds? damn, I can get 100 acp rounds for 29 bucks. Seems again the scale is tipped to the koolaid side.

Where?:wow: I need some.

[PAGunner]

Where?:wow: I need some.

Wal-Mart

[Gregw/aGlock]

Not only yea, but hell yea. The GAP is a great round IMO, and it truly shines in the subcompact arena (G39).

As for ammo - I concur with the previous posts -- makes more sense to buy in bulk online. I prefer GA Arms ammo for practice, but here's another good site: www.ammoman.com . As an example of his prices for 1000 rounds of practice ammo shipped to your door (factory new ammo):

.45 ACP, 230gr FMJ Federal American Eagle: $350
.45 GAP, 230gr FMJ Federal American Eagle: $359

[ljnowell]

Wal-Mart
Yep, WWB at wal mart. I also reload, so my cost is real slim. The only time I buy is when the brass starts getting weak. Then I reload em one last time and use them for IPSC

[PAGunner]

Not only yea, but hell yea. The GAP is a great round IMO, and it truly shines in the subcompact arena (G39).

As for ammo - I concur with the previous posts -- makes more sense to buy in bulk online. I prefer GA Arms ammo for practice, but here's another good site: www.ammoman.com . As an example of his prices for 1000 rounds of practice ammo shipped to your door (factory new ammo):

.45 ACP, 230gr FMJ Federal American Eagle: $350
.45 GAP, 230gr FMJ Federal American Eagle: $359

Since GAP ammo is hard to find at a good price, I think a moderator should sticky a thread that lists all the good online sources of practice and carry ammo in the bulldawg forum. JMO.

[packinaglock]

Good stuff man, I found a side that showed 230gr. federal FMJs for $350, I thought that was a decent price, but was definitely looking for something a little cheaper. My only question is how close to normal recoil do you get with the 185grs? I'd like to practice with as close to SD ammo recoil as possible.

To OP, sorry, I'm not trying to hijack the thread, I'm just trying to further the debate a bit at this point. Ammo is prices are a serious consideration. Having ammo "readily" available doesn't bother me, as long as it is available.

Not a problem Im just enjoying the reading:cool:

[PAGunner]

Not a problem Im just enjoying the reading:cool:

I'm glad you started it, I'm seriously considering buying a G38 now.

[dday27]

I have all 3 GAP models and they are becoming my favorites!

[Rich77]

Wal-Mart

Not the 5 wal-marts where I live.:steamed:

[PAGunner]

Not the 5 wal-marts where I live.:steamed:

At last check (about a month ago), $29.88 at the local wally for the 100 round value pack of WWB .45ACP.

[BennerP220]

I will say that my sheriff's office was issued 38s and 37s earlier this year and we absolutely love them.
Had some slight issues at first with the 38s using 37 mags but it was all ammo related. I just fired 500 rounds from my G37 on sunday and they were all flawless.

[jlh2600]

I'm glad you started it, I'm seriously considering buying a G38 now.

Well you'd better be considering the B.I.C. you entered!


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