View Full Version : I have a question about glock 34? a serious question
I have grown very fond of the glock 34 and have shot it as well, I like It and and probably going to buy one this week as well to complement my glock 17 but my question is as a competition gun the 34 has been considered one of the best but with the slide cutout could it be used as a true defensive/ combat handgun, the size it not really that big of a problem for me I carry a 21 sf and conceal it pretty well, and not starting a caliber war, the Beretta 92 is still being carried in the armed forces, just looking to get you all opinion.
What's the slide cutout got to do with it? I've carried my G35 on occasion.
Live With Honor
06-22-2008, 23:57
I don't see how the slide cut-out would effect it's effectiveness as a defense weapon in any way, shape or form. In fact, I know of tactical teams that use the Glock 34/35 as their primary sidearm. I would believe it to be just as effective as any other Glock, provided you can conceal it properly.
As far as the caliber is concerned, I fall into the unpopular category that strongly believes that the 9mm can be just as effective as any other caliber. Shot placement, and proper ammunition selection can make a 9mm handgun capable of saving your life as well as any other. Plus, the extra barrel length of the 34 gives the small 9mm a little extra velocity, which can aid hollow point rounds with more reliable expansion.
So to answer your question, I feel the Glock 34 would make an excellent defense weapon.
kelsitone
06-23-2008, 01:01
I don't see how the slide cut-out would effect it's effectiveness as a defense weapon in any way, shape or form. In fact, I know of tactical teams that use the Glock 34/35 as their primary sidearm. I would believe it to be just as effective as any other Glock, provided you can conceal it properly.
As far as the caliber is concerned, I fall into the unpopular category that strongly believes that the 9mm can be just as effective as any other caliber. Shot placement, and proper ammunition selection can make a 9mm handgun capable of saving your life as well as any other. Plus, the extra barrel length of the 34 gives the small 9mm a little extra velocity, which can aid hollow point rounds with more reliable expansion.
So to answer your question, I feel the Glock 34 would make an excellent defense weapon.
+1 :agree:
MAGNUMMAN
06-23-2008, 01:44
I have the same question as the original poster. I do not think the G34 would even function after being buried in mud, sand, dirt, etc. The open cut out in the slide would allow enough materieal in between the barrel and slide to effectively jam the gun. Go hard pack a G34 in dirt like that relatively famous G21 torture test and see what happens.
Note To Self: Do NOT pack 34 in mud and/or sand.
I guess combat/defensive gun depends on what role. Cop/SD gun or combat gun?
In the mud of the trenches of France WW1 the Luger was less than stellar when caked with mud but it worked fine in general battlefield conditions from Africa to Russia in WW2.
The 17L is and was used by the Romanian Anti-Terrorist Unit, however they are not often living in the field or the muddy trenches of flanders for weeks on end.
Find terrible enough conditions and possibly any pistol will have problems.
Rusty Phillips
06-23-2008, 05:09
IMO - the 34 is so close to the 17..... big difference is trigger pull (which helps accuracy) and slide length (which helps velocity) the longer slide and sight radius doesnt do anything for accuracy except give the shooter a psychological advantage
I would put a 3.5 lb connector in your current 17 and consider buying something smaller - either a G19 or G26
unless of course you find a two year old (or newer) G34 that is in mint condition with 5 hicaps for $440.... then you need to jump on that one fast!!!!
as a competition gun the 34 has been considered one of the best but with the slide cutout could it be used as a true defensive/ combat handgun,
OK, what on earth does the slide cut have to do with whether it can be used as a defensive gun???
The state police here carry the 35.
I have the same question as the original poster. I do not think the G34 would even function after being buried in mud, sand, dirt, etc. The open cut out in the slide would allow enough materieal in between the barrel and slide to effectively jam the gun. Go hard pack a G34 in dirt like that relatively famous G21 torture test and see what happens.
Great, hard pack a 1911, S&W K frame, etc. in dirt and...wait a minute, I don't really need to pack my guns in dirt.:upeyes:
Colorado4Wheel
06-23-2008, 07:39
This is a serious question?
sidewinder6
06-23-2008, 10:23
Well, the Beretta has an open slide and that hasnt been an issue. If you get mud in the gun, you take 30 seconds to field strip the gun and wipe down the barrel when you have a chance.
I believe the 34 is an excellent weapon for daily wear.
surferDude
06-23-2008, 10:32
Great, hard pack a 1911, S&W K frame, etc. in dirt and...wait a minute, I don't really need to pack my guns in dirt.:upeyes:
What is this was a mud wrestling SD pistol ?:whistling::rofl:
BamaTrooper
06-23-2008, 11:20
...I know of tactical teams that use the Glock 34/35 as their primary sidearm...
Alabama State Trooper Tactical Teams use the 35.
slewfoot
06-23-2008, 11:22
It could be a serious concern if you have to defend yourself during a volcanic eruption. The falling dust could clog the slide.:wavey:
Alabama State Trooper Tactical Teams use the 35.
As does the Kentucky State Police Special Response Team.
paul1973
06-23-2008, 11:44
Put a piece of ducktape over the hole in the slide, then when you are packing your guns with mud/dirt it will be safe and easy to clean..:rofl:
Note To Self: Do NOT pack 34 with mud and/or sand... unless hole is duct-taped.
paul1973
06-23-2008, 12:27
Note To Self: Do NOT pack 34 with mud and/or sand... unless hole is duct-taped. This tape can be had at your local hardware store for a few dollars. :rofl:
Glock-Twenty
06-23-2008, 16:30
I have the same question as the original poster. I do not think the G34 would even function after being buried in mud, sand, dirt, etc. The open cut out in the slide would allow enough materieal in between the barrel and slide to effectively jam the gun. Go hard pack a G34 in dirt like that relatively famous G21 torture test and see what happens.
I've gotten mine in mud, sand, and dirty water and it never missed a beat. Now... I don't know what would happen if you intentionally packed it with thick mud... but mud doesn't work that way. You sling it off and it's good to go. Chances are if you're in real mud then there will be a puddle of standing water near you. Dip the gun. sling it off, and fire fire fire. That being sad... I regular person in the course of their daily events will encounter being held up in the mud in the defensive situation about 1 in a billion times. Not really an issue. If I were going to war... I probably wouldn't take a glock anyway. I'd probably take my HK USP along.
Matrix62
06-23-2008, 17:18
Put a piece of ducktape over the hole in the slide, then when you are packing your guns with mud/dirt it will be safe and easy to clean..:rofl:
How would that look to a jury if I you had to defend yourself in a court of law? "Your honor, the defendant was carrying a practical/tactical GLOCK....with it's hole on the top duct-taped to increase performance.
Seriously, in a situation where that much mud/dirt/whatever gets in the relieved slide to affect performance, the chance of putting the same amount of said gunk inside the barrel is just as high.
If your G34 is going to be carried as a SD gun, what are the chances in your everyday routine that the gun will/can get packed w/ dirt, sand, etc? Your not using this as a end of the world/survival gun. The only thing that could be a problem in a shooting is the target, 3.5 trigger disconnector.
MAGNUMMAN
06-23-2008, 21:54
What if the BG puts his finger, tongue or other body part in the open slot and jams the gun? Did you ever think of that?
One local PD uses all G34, another local PD uses G34/G35 and several tactical units in this area use them with good results.
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