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Bladegt
06-23-2008, 07:35
...and I think i'm gonna get, due to being a first time rider other then my buddies dirt bike, a Kawasaki Ninja 250R. Nothing too gutsy, or expensive, for a first bike. Every time I try to talk to my mom about it she just seems to give me this crazy look and a stern " You aren't getting a bike." She used to ride when she was younger and I understand that on a bike I'm basically invisible. I also think that she assumes i'm gonna be just another 19 year old that wants to go fast and pop wheelies. I understand her concern but I still want a bike and I'm pretty sure she knows that I won't be doing that stupid stuff. As far as when I'll be getting it.... as soon as I save up a good $4-$5000. Any tips/tricks I need to know? I've been reading up on some of the other posts so I have a general idea of what to look for while riding. I also don't plan on getting out into traffic until i've gotten comfortable with driving around the back streets at about 20 MPH. Any help would be great. Thanks all.

fnfalman
06-23-2008, 19:25
Motorcycle Safety Foundation is your friend.

Sign up for the Basic Rider Course and then show your mom the certificate. Maybe that will help ease some of her fears.

http://www.msf-usa.org

wavetrain75
06-29-2008, 16:10
I like your decision to start with a 250 Ninja. It's is surprisingly capable little bike and easy on gas, you may find you want to keep it as a commuter even if you move to a larger bike for touring.

I learned to ride a bike in the parking lot of a desserted K-Mart, but would say that a better way is to find a state sanctioned motorcycle class (mentioned in previous post). In Montana they run them throughout the summer for a cost of about $150 and the bike is provided for the class (so you don't have to drop yours). At the end of the two days you get your motorcycle endorsement and are good to go. Call the DMV and ask.

That's choice number one. If that's not available, find someone who has been riding bikes for a while and is not a hot-head. Ask if they'll work with you for a few days. Bikes are like driving a stick, at first they seem touchy and awkward, but after and hour or two you'll be surprised how it all comes together.

When you get a bit better, there should be a cycle course at the DMV that is used for testing. Come in after hours and practice riding the course. Tests include stop with the tire in the box, low speed U turns, panic stop and panic swerve, weaving through cones. Ride it until you're comfortable and go take the test. I did it at least 25 times.

And yes, once you're on a bike they are all out to get you.

Bladegt
07-01-2008, 15:23
They have a course around here, $250 and they provide lunch, and I'm looking forward to taking it. As for the Ninja 250... I'm now thinking of getting a cruiser. Was thinking a Harley.... don't know yet. I'll keep everyone updated on what I end up getting. Gonna take me a few months to get all the money up for it though, the downpayment that is. So until then... guess I'm stuck sittin on bikes and day dreaming.

KIDCOP
07-02-2008, 19:37
I think your idea was good of starting small and then working up. It's much easier to make a mistake on a smaller bike and live through it than the 550 lb + bike. I rode with weekend with a guy who's first bike is a 883 Sportser. He went off the road on curve that he should have made. Just went in to it faster than his ability would allow. He ended up with a fat lip, a scrape above his left eye and he was full of dirt. The Harley bent the crash bars and windshield. No damage to paint but I picked rocks out of his fins for him. He was very lucky and I would hope he learned something. The best part was he was able to ride the bike home after being out in the sticks on a mountain pass.

Bren
07-04-2008, 09:19
Motorcycle Safety Foundation is your friend.

Sign up for the Basic Rider Course and then show your mom the certificate. Maybe that will help ease some of her fears.

http://www.msf-usa.org

Yep, take the course. My wife just got the idea we needed motorcycles, so she signed us both up for the MSF course. I've had a bike in the past and had a little experience, but the course still taught me a lot and it took her from never having ridden a motorcycle or driven anything with a clutch to doing as well as the guys who already owned bikes in 12 hours of riding. I was amazed at how well they taught the stuff. Then there's the break on insurance and not having to take the DMV road test, although the MSF test covers more skills and has more parts than our state road test.

Cryptoboy
07-15-2008, 10:59
They have a course around here, $250 and they provide lunch, and I'm looking forward to taking it. As for the Ninja 250... I'm now thinking of getting a cruiser. Was thinking a Harley.... don't know yet. I'll keep everyone updated on what I end up getting. Gonna take me a few months to get all the money up for it though, the downpayment that is. So until then... guess I'm stuck sittin on bikes and day dreaming.

Personally I'd stay away from a Harley as a first bike. I love Harley's (on my second one, and I started on 2 Buell Blasts with my wife), but I am personally glad I started on a smaller/lighter bike.

I think it depends on the type of biking you plan to get into. If you want to get into sportbike riding the Ninja 250 is a great starting point. If you want to ride cruisers, you're best to start off with a smaller bike like a Honda Shadow or something.

Regardless, take the MSF course and when you are ready to buy, stick with used bikes for two reason: 1) It's almost guaranteed you'll drop it at some point, and 2) The bike has already depreciated, so when you decide to move to a different model, you will be able to sell it for about what you originally paid (minus any repair work!)

Good luck!

Halojumper
07-15-2008, 17:39
Personally I'd stay away from a Harley as a first bike. !


or second, or third, or fourth... :)

cnutco
07-15-2008, 19:23
Ninja 250 is a great starter and a great bike. I have a Honda 600RR and have been wanting the Ninja 250 due to gas prices. It looks a lot better than a scooter!

Armchair Commando
07-15-2008, 20:54
...and I think i'm gonna get, due to being a first time rider other then my buddies dirt bike, a Kawasaki Ninja 250R. Nothing too gutsy, or expensive, for a first bike. Every time I try to talk to my mom about it she just seems to give me this crazy look and a stern " You aren't getting a bike." She used to ride when she was younger and I understand that on a bike I'm basically invisible. I also think that she assumes i'm gonna be just another 19 year old that wants to go fast and pop wheelies. I understand her concern but I still want a bike and I'm pretty sure she knows that I won't be doing that stupid stuff. As far as when I'll be getting it.... as soon as I save up a good $4-$5000. Any tips/tricks I need to know? I've been reading up on some of the other posts so I have a general idea of what to look for while riding. I also don't plan on getting out into traffic until i've gotten comfortable with driving around the back streets at about 20 MPH. Any help would be great. Thanks all.
The Ninja 250 is the perfect bike for Beginning Riders. I started out on a 250 then moved up to a GSX-R 600 and now i'm riding a GSX-R 1000. Been riding for about 7 years now and the Best Advice i can give to you is to Wear a Helmet, Leather Bike Jacket and Boots until you have some riding time under your belt and can comfortably ride the bike and not let it ride you, You also have to ALWAYS watch out for Car Drivers. It doesn't matter how well you ride a Bike if a Old Grandma pulls out in front of you when your going 60 MPH. It's going to suck really bad for you, Catch my drift.

Cryptoboy
07-15-2008, 22:13
or second, or third, or fourth... :)

Your loss. Most people end up on cruisers eventually regardless....

fnfalman
07-16-2008, 07:03
Your loss. Most people end up on cruisers eventually regardless....

Possibly when we get old and decrepit and can't ride real motorcycles any more...

Halojumper
07-16-2008, 07:48
Your loss. Most people end up on cruisers eventually regardless....

Not my loss, I've already gone through that phase. I've had 5 cruisers, 3 of them Harleys, so I'm not speaking from speculation.

jim123
07-16-2008, 21:52
Ever consider the xj650 maxim made from 1980 to 1983? I bought an 82 for $500 but it didn't run but if you are handy they are not expensive to fix. I can make it take off from a stop with the idle set at 1000 rpm without using the throttle. It is very light. I can pick up the bike by the passenger grab handle and turn the bike around. Very dirtbike like when it comes to chicago's wonderful speed bumps. I put 8 psi pressure in the adjustable forks and turned the rear spring adjustment up 3 clicks. Now I can easily go over the speed bumps at 20 mph by standing up as I go over them. The bike is ultra quiet and is very easy to ride around on at the speed limit. I can lay rubber all the way through 1st gear and get a big squeal after powershifting to second. I find that for me, a bike is a gas waster. I ride around just for fun. You might not like bikes and if you go this route, you might not loose any money if you sell it right away. Here it the ike I ought for $500 a few hours after I bought it in not running condition. I'll have to make a vid of the burnout all the way through 1st and barking 2nd. ******* width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://s89.photobucket.com/flash/player.swf?file=http://vid89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/jimz123/picsfromcd384.flv"></embed>

jim123
07-16-2008, 22:01
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Halojumper
07-17-2008, 19:40
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/jimz123/th_picsfromcd384.jpg (http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/jimz123/?action=view&current=picsfromcd384.flv)

Looks like you got a fair amount of bike for the buck!

jim123
07-17-2008, 22:06
It ran good after starting fluid and a long warmup. It was 30 degrees when the vid was made. I eventually rebuilt the carbs $100 in parts and parts cleaner, changed the oil, oil and air filters, got a manometer, $100,to sync the carbs. The carbs benefit from a sync EVERY time the weather changes. I thought the clutch was slipping when I would wind out first gear and powershift to 2nd. I recently did that again and felt the back end get a little loose. After that, I realized the clutch was good and the back tire was spinning when I hit 2ng gear. I tried dumping the clutch at 3k from a dead stop to see if the clutch would slip but I got a little tire squeal. I soon realized I could smoke the tire through 1st gear. I'll make a vid this weekend because if I didn't see it myself, I wouldn't believe it either. email this posting to a friend chicago craigslist > west chicagoland > motorcycles/scooters
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Overall in very good condition. Low miles, 13,601. Good rims and tires, shaft drive, inline 4 cylinder that gets great gas mileage. Good commuter or beginner bike. Some minor dings and light surface rust. Needs a few minor repairs (front brake needs to be bled, currently locked, starter relay needs replacing, gas tank should be flushed, oil needs to be changed). Garage kept and ridden very little the past few years.

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Here's one like mine for sale. Looks like it needs a little air in the forks.

jim123
07-17-2008, 22:09
Here's a bike like mine for sale locally. For some reason the pics wont show up. Not my bike. Mine has less than half the miles.

Halojumper
07-17-2008, 22:43
Here's a bike like mine for sale locally. For some reason the pics wont show up. Not my bike. Mine has less than half the miles.

Where?

J_86
07-18-2008, 02:11
Ha, my mom was not a happy camper the day I came rollin' up on my bike. She'll come around.
The Ninja 250 in an excellent choice for a first bike if you are looking at sport bikes. I have a Ninja 650, but I started on a 250 and I loved that bike. My only suggestion is take a strong look a used ones. No matter how careful you are, you are bound to drop your first bike.Buy some frame sliders to try and protect the plastics. And also take a MSF course as someone already suggested. Mine was actually kind of fun and I learned a lot.
Also,it's purely a personal choice but, invest in a good helmet, gloves, jacket, all that stuff. Hitting the pavement with a t-shirt and shorts on WILL NOT be fun.

Oh, and have fun! :rock:

genesis49
07-18-2008, 07:38
I started on a CBR 600, and even though I hear from people all the time a 600 is a good starter bike, They are not.
Looking back I would get something similar to what I have now. I have been buying, selling, fixing and riding standard Japanese bikes form the 70's for the past few years. They are inexpensive to buy, good on gas, parts are plentiful, and they have plenty of power for whatever you want to do. I ride mine daily 40 miles both ways on the expressway to work. Plus the ergonomics are very forgiving
The latest one I bought for $600, put on a new drive chain and it's run perfectly ever since.

jim123
09-28-2008, 18:50
Ever consider the xj650 maxim made from 1980 to 1983? I bought an 82 for $500 but it didn't run but if you are handy they are not expensive to fix. I can make it take off from a stop with the idle set at 1000 rpm without using the throttle. It is very light. I can pick up the bike by the passenger grab handle and turn the bike around. Very dirtbike like when it comes to chicago's wonderful speed bumps. I put 8 psi pressure in the adjustable forks and turned the rear spring adjustment up 3 clicks. Now I can easily go over the speed bumps at 20 mph by standing up as I go over them. The bike is ultra quiet and is very easy to ride around on at the speed limit. I can lay rubber all the way through 1st gear and get a big squeal after powershifting to second. I find that for me, a bike is a gas waster. I ride around just for fun. You might not like bikes and if you go this route, you might not loose any money if you sell it right away. Here it the ike I ought for $500 a few hours after I bought it in not running condition. I'll have to make a vid of the burnout all the way through 1st and barking 2nd. ******* width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://s89.photobucket.com/flash/player.swf?file=http://vid89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/jimz123/picsfromcd384.flv"></embed>

Here it is idling.
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windplex
09-28-2008, 18:55
Possibly when we get old and decrepit and can't ride real motorcycles any more...

that is what trikes are for.

windplex
09-28-2008, 19:04
...I understand that on a bike I'm basically invisible...

You are always invisible. You are the magnet and cars and trucks are drawn to you but cannot see you. Be vigilant or get hit.

Good choice of bikes.

Practice hard stops using both brakes. Do it in safe place. Start slow and work on stopping shorter distances. Get a really good feel for the front brake and what you can do before you need it.

jim123
09-28-2008, 19:05
The blue 1flv is the vid.