WTF?! The D.C. mayor and the district attorney general said no semiauto handguns!!!

[johnydoe]

They and the chief of police of d.c. just said they will be strictly regulating handguns by registration. They said "There will be NO AUTHORIZATIONS OF AUTOMATIC OR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS"

WTF!?!?! so they will just accept single action revolvers?

[mattellis2]

watch this get struck down too. have a link?


-matt

[PAGunner]

They and the chief of police of d.c. just said they will be strictly regulating handguns by registration. They said "There will be NO AUTHORIZATIONS OF AUTOMATIC OR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS"

WTF!?!?! so they will just accept single action revolvers?

That aint' gonna hold any water at all. As narrow as this ruling was, Scalia pretty much ruled that you can't ban the most popular firearms among law abiding citizens, ie, semi autos.

[JNKIRK1974]

watch this get struck down too. have a link?


-matt

Unfortunately, it won't get struck down. The Supreme Court gave the individual states and cities that ability to regulate the firearms.

This ruling only prevents them from banning them. However, they can still regulate them.

It's unfortunate, but true.

[JNKIRK1974]

The D.C. mayor is now saying that he's going to try to require a trigger lock on ALL guns kept in the homes for self defense.

Hmmmm.................

[NateIU10]

More lawsuits for sure :faint:

[d3athp3nguin]

Didn't the Supreme court rule that rendering a gun inoperable in the home (like D.C. required with shotguns and rifles) was not an acceptable means of regulation?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/23/ST2008062300649.html?hpid=artslot

The court also held unconstitutional the requirement that shotguns and rifles be kept either dissassembled or unloaded or outfitted with a triggerlock. The court called it a "prohibition against rendering any lawful firearm in the home operable for the purpose of immediate self-defense."

I think local anti-gun gov is just getting flustered.

[Yellowfin]

Time to get him thrown out.

[PAGunner]

Unfortunately, it won't get struck down. The Supreme Court gave the individual states and cities that ability to regulate the firearms.

This ruling only prevents them from banning them. However, they can still regulate them.

It's unfortunate, but true.

Wrong, when Scalia discussed the Miller case, his opinion was that you can't ban the weapons that law abiding citizens use (that implicitly includes semi-autos).

[Usingmyrights]

Unfortunately, it won't get struck down. The Supreme Court gave the individual states and cities that ability to regulate the firearms.

This ruling only prevents them from banning them. However, they can still regulate them.

It's unfortunate, but true.

So a new Brady bill could still be passed?

[PAGunner]

So a new Brady bill could still be passed?

Absolutely, in fact, the head of the brady campaign was just on Fox News. He is all geeked up about "sensible gun laws".

[slewfoot]

So a new Brady bill could still be passed?

Absolutely. When did you ever see the liberals give up on anything? It all stems from us not knowing what is best for us. Only they do.:steamed:

[JFrame]

They and the chief of police of d.c. just said they will be strictly regulating handguns by registration. They said "There will be NO AUTHORIZATIONS OF AUTOMATIC OR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS"

WTF!?!?! so they will just accept single action revolvers?

Am definitely not in favor of such a stupid restriction -- but in the meantime, I'm guessing companies like S&W, Rossi, and Taurus are licking their chops. ;)

[unit1069]

They and the chief of police of d.c. just said they will be strictly regulating handguns by registration. They said "There will be NO AUTHORIZATIONS OF AUTOMATIC OR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS"

WTF!?!?! so they will just accept single action revolvers?

Let the Left spend a fortune defending their anti-rights agenda. It's about time America turned the tables on these Stalinists.

[JNKIRK1974]

Wrong, when Scalia discussed the Miller case, his opinion was that you can't ban the weapons that law abiding citizens use (that implicitly includes semi-autos).

Just reporting what I listened to on Fox News.

[AJ Dual]

The first thing that comes to mind is that Fenty is just mouthing off from the cuff. Just because he says something now is no reason that it's what D.C. will ultimately do to comply with the ruling. That will come after lengthy consultations with their lawyers and what they think they can get away with.

The Majority Ruling stated that an entire class prohibition (handguns) was unconstitutional.

We will see if semi-auto is considered an "entire class".

Mayor Fenty seems quite content to keep on giving us additional opportunites for RKBA case law. :supergrin:

[JNKIRK1974]

The D.C. police chief was on a serious power trip during that news conference. You could tell that she was going to do anything and everything to make it difficult to get a gun.....period.

So glad I live in Texas!

[LoneRanger19]

They stole that idea from Obama.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/barack_obama_gun_control.htm

[unit1069]

Mayor Fenty seems quite content to keep on giving us additional opportunites for RKBA case law. :supergrin:

I'm inclined to agree, and as I recall the Brady Stalinists originally urged Fenty not to appeal the lower court Heller decision in fear that the Constitution would win the day.

We should give the Bradys recognition for being right at least once. Now I suspect the Bradys will urge resistance to the US Constitution at every turn.

[unit1069]

The D.C. police chief was on a serious power trip during that news conference. You could tell that she was going to do anything and everything to make it difficult to get a gun.....period.

These Leftist anti-Americans are playing to their constituencies. Talking tough until the immensity of their crushing defeat lands on them with full force. They're going to be appealing for contributions to fight the law, which will surely end up being used for other Leftist agendas.

I don't doubt that some localities will fight a determined rear guard action, but now their immediate concern is Chicago and I predict the federal judges there will quickly begin to enforce the constitution. The Bradys will be very selective in picking where they want to fight.

The beauty of the Court's upholding the constitution is that the Left for years has relied upon bypassing the legislatures, state and federal, to get reliably Leftist courts to do their bidding. Now are they going to go to the legislatures and elected officials to fight their own strategy?

The law-abiding citizens of Illinois have chafed for decades under the control of the Cook County Democrat criminal machine. Now Chicago residents will soon have the same constitutional rights as the rest of us.

[HiVelSword]

Go to the websites of the enemy and they use the words "should" and ""does not appear to"" when talking about the semi-auto pistol ban still being in affect.

That means two things.

1. It's not a sure bet

2. They are trying to make things sound not as bad to their constituents.

[unit1069]

Please, someone in DC get in Sen. Barbara Boxer's face and tell her, "The Second Amendment is a settled issue".

I'm sure she'll appreciate the phraseology.

[JFrame]

I'm inclined to agree, and as I recall the Brady Stalinists originally urged Fenty not to appeal the lower court Heller decision in fear that the Constitution would win the day.

We should give the Bradys recognition for being right at least once. Now I suspect the Bradys will urge resistance to the US Constitution at every turn.

Interesting notion -- Mayor Fenty may be the Brady Bunch's worst nightmare! :supergrin:

[slewfoot]

Do you hear that? Are you looking around for the source of the noise?

No, your house or office is not haunted.

That is the sound of trial lawyers smacking their lips and rubbing their hands together in glee.

This decision just rang the dinner bell for countless lawyers to cash in.

We all expected an up or down vote on the constitutionality of owning guns. It didn't happen.

Every pip squeak anti gun legislator will be attempting to navigate around this ruling. If Obama is elected, we still face a certain Assault Weapons Ban.

[unit1069]

We all expected an up or down vote on the constitutionality of owning guns. It didn't happen.

Actually we've won a huge victory in the Court's ruling that the Second Amendment reaffirms the individual right to firearms.

Every pip squeak anti gun legislator will be attempting to navigate around this ruling. If Obama is elected, we still face a certain Assault Weapons Ban.

Maybe, maybe not. There is quite a lot of fear among Democrats that angering gun owners will result in a replay of the 1994 congressional elections. Today's Heller decision should give every last one of them more concern than the way things were yesterday.

[unit1069]

Interesting notion -- Mayor Fenty may be the Brady Bunch's worst nightmare! :supergrin:

My biggest fear is a President Obama and Democrat majority in both houses of congress passing anti-rights laws in conjunction with the appointment of Leftist judges vetted for their hate of the Second Amendment.

Voters need to do our part, which is to elect politicians not of the Democrat Party.

[JFrame]

My biggest fear is a President Obama and Democrat majority in both houses of congress passing anti-rights laws in conjunction with the appointment of Leftist judges vetted for their hate of the Second Amendment.

Voters need to do our part, which is to elect politicians not of the Democrat Party.

Absolutely!!! :thumbsup:

[unit1069]

Interesting notion -- Mayor Fenty may be the Brady Bunch's worst nightmare! :supergrin:

This case has faced opposition and involvement both from groups for and against expanded gun rights. The National Rifle Association was initially not supportive of the case because it feared it might not be successful. The NRA has since reconciled with the plaintiffs. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence lobbied to have DC gun laws changed so the case would be moot and not eligible to be heard by the Supreme Court. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

I'm so ecstatic!

Legal and poetic justice rolled into one!

[DonGlock26]

Absolutely. When did you ever see the liberals give up on anything? It all stems from us not knowing what is best for us. Only they do.:steamed:



Fanatics never stop. They have to be stopped.

[Hugo R]

My biggest fear is a President Obama and Democrat majority in both houses of congress passing anti-rights laws in conjunction with the appointment of Leftist judges vetted for their hate of the Second Amendment.

Voters need to do our part, which is to elect politicians not of the Democrat Party.


Oh yea. While we might be able to celebrate this small win for a while...the above nightmare would be a huge blow to gun owners and the Constitution of the United States.

HR

[slewfoot]

My biggest fear is a President Obama and Democrat majority in both houses of congress passing anti-rights laws in conjunction with the appointment of Leftist judges vetted for their hate of the Second Amendment.

Voters need to do our part, which is to elect politicians not of the Democrat Party.

My biggest fear is a veto proof congress. Even if McCain wins the White House, the dems can still forward their agenda. The RINOs in the Senate can not be relied upon to do the right thing.

[slewfoot]

Fanatics never stop. They have to be stopped.

Driving a stake through their hearts is still illegal, isn't it?

[LoneRanger19]

My biggest fear is a veto proof congress. Even if McCain wins the White House, the dems can still forward their agenda. The RINOs in the Senate can not be relied upon to do the right thing.

That's funny McCain is using this victory to get into Obama's face about Chicago's gun ban.

McCain may suck on some issues, but he is a billion times better on gun issues than Obama. Saying McCain is a RINO is like saying Reagan was a RINO. We need to stay focused.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/mccain.handgun.ban.2.757688.html


McCain: Chicago Gun Ban Infringes On Rights

Obama: 'What Works In Chicago May Not Work In Cheyenne'

http://static.cbslocal.com/Themes/CBS/_resources/img/ico010x010blog.gif Gun Rights Ruling May Change Chicago Law (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/supreme.court.handguns.2.757471.html)

ARLINGTON, Va. (CBS) ― U.S. Sen. John McCain said Thursday that the Supreme Court ruling in favor of gun ownership showed that the Chicago handgun ban has "infringed on the constitutional rights of Americans."

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee called the ruling a "landmark victory for Second Amendment freedom in the United States."

http://llnw.static.cbslocal.com/Themes/CBS/_resources/img/images_image_280164506.jpg (http://cbs2chicago.com/consumer/airline.weight.fee.2.741830.html) Tell us what you think of the ruling and gun control. (http://cbs2chicago.com/formsection?fid=757668)

"For the first time in the history of our Republic, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms was and is an individual right as intended by our Founding Fathers," McCain said in a statement.

He criticized Sen. Barack Obama for not signing a bipartisan amicus brief supporting the ruling later issued by the Supreme Court, and singled out the Chicago ban in describing what the ruling should change.

"Today's ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller makes clear that other municipalities like Chicago that have banned handguns have infringed on the constitutional rights of Americans," McCain said in the statement.

He also targeted a campaign comment by Obama that said residents of struggling small towns "get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion."


"Unlike the elitist view that believes Americans cling to guns out of bitterness, today's ruling recognizes that gun ownership is a fundamental right -- sacred, just as the right to free speech and assembly," McCain said.

In his own statement, Obama defended the Second Amendment, but also echoed the concerns of those affected by gun violence.

He said that while the Supreme Court had overturned the D.C. gun ban, "Justice Scalia himself acknowledged that this right is not absolute and subject to reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe. Today's ruling, the first clear statement on this issue in 127 years, will provide much-needed guidance to local jurisdictions across the country. "

Obama said if elected president, he would uphold the rights of gun owners, but he said: "I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact common-sense laws, like closing the gun show loophole and improving our background check system, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals."

The court's 5-4 ruling strikes down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns as incompatible with gun rights under the Second Amendment. The decision goes further than even the Bush administration wanted, but probably leaves most firearms laws intact.

The Supreme Court ruling does not automatically invalidate the Chicago handgun ban, but opens up the possibility of an court challenge that could get it declared unconstitutional.

The court had not conclusively interpreted the Second Amendment since its ratification in 1791. The amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The basic issue for the justices was whether the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns no matter what, or whether that right is somehow tied to service in a state militia.

In Chicago, a ban on the sale and registration of handguns has been in place since 1982. Only police officers, aldermen and a handful of others are exempt from the ban.

While other firearms can be registered, under current law, handguns cannot be registered and are considered illegal. Several suburbs have similar restrictions.

The Supreme Court ruling does not automatically invalidate the Chicago handgun ban, but opens up the possibility of an court challenge that could get it declared unconstitutional.

[orlando_5]

The biggest fear is not vote proof congress. Is Obama selecting a Supreme Court Justice. What happen today it to allow pro gun lawsuits to have their day in court. The fight from now on is in the courts.

If you haven't register to vote do so now. Help Ralf Nadar get into the ballot box so he can split the Democratic party. Vote pro gun, vote conservative, vote Republican.

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/heller-discussion-board-incorporation-and-the-need-for-further-litigation/

[Kirkstick]

I'm happy that this went the way that it did, but very uncomfortable that it was a 5-4 vote....just one vote away from going the other way!!!:worried:

[sisco50]

The D.C. police chief was on a serious power trip during that news conference. You could tell that she was going to do anything and everything to make it difficult to get a gun.....period.

So glad I live in Texas!


You got that right. Texas is where it makes sense. :cool:

[USDefender]

They and the chief of police of d.c. just said they will be strictly regulating handguns by registration. They said "There will be NO AUTHORIZATIONS OF AUTOMATIC OR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS"

WTF!?!?! so they will just accept single action revolvers?


That's the liberal way. For them, US laws are all just a grey area to be interpreted for their convenience and to fit their agendas.

'Fair minded liberals'.... *Huh... Every one of 'em is a tin horn dictator waiting to happen. :upeyes:

[remat]

This is not a surprise but a strategy. D.C. already has a "machine gun ban" that pretty covers all semi-autos.

If you want insight on what they are trying to do, check out vpc's website. They outline it there...

[cjlandry]

Find out what sort of guns are in common use for DC Police, and get those. If the Police can't stand for citizens to have the same guns that they have, then I say that they can't be trusted.

[RickD]

Here is Cathy Lanier DC Chief O' Police on Heller (she's got four stars on her shoulder??) Someone's over-compensating.

Thankfully short at 1-minute: 26-seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HWb8INbZg

They both seem a little stressed, don't they?

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/80290066.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1933B836CAF14D5D5C812EA5A231AB9A2AE5A5397277B4DC33E

All I could find of the Mayor's words were edits in news stories, but I did hear him say no to "semi-auto or full-auto handguns." I'm sure the good C o' Police will have no input as to the make up of the next plate of DC ordinances. After all, she doesn't make the law. She just enforces it. ::)

[walangkatapat]

Here is Cathy Lanier DC Chief O' Police on Heller (she's got four stars on her shoulder??) Someone's over-compensating.

Thankfully short at 1-minute: 26-seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HWb8INbZg

They both seem a little stressed, don't they?

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/80290066.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1933B836CAF14D5D5C812EA5A231AB9A2AE5A5397277B4DC33E

All I could find of the Mayor's words were edits in news stories, but I did hear him say no to "semi-auto or full-auto handguns." I'm sure the good C o' Police will have no input as to the make up of the next plate of DC ordinances. After all, she doesn't make the law. She just enforces it. ::)

Overcompensating, you got that right.:rofl:

[cjd]

I hate to be a pesimist, but the U.S.A. as we know is finished. We and I mean WE have allowed these people to take over our country. Because of our laziness and selfishness We have allowed this to happen.ROME fell from within , it was not conquered by an enemy army until it was weakend from within.

[For Liberty]

I hate to be a pesimist, but the U.S.A. as we know is finished. We and I mean WE have allowed these people to take over our country. Because of our laziness and selfishness We have allowed this to happen.ROME fell from within , it was not conquered by an enemy army until it was weakend from within.

On that note, the Roman Republic had redistribution of wealth and arms control that make DC look like a libertarian beehive.

[Waterwagonboom]

His self image and immature ego have been damaged. This is just his way of revenge and a lame attempt to make himself feel powerful again.

[Fear Night]

Keep those semi automatic machine guns off the streets!

[tercel89]

The D.C. police chief was on a serious power trip during that news conference. You could tell that she was going to do anything and everything to make it difficult to get a gun.....period.

So glad I live in Texas!

Why the heck would a police cheif act so stupid as to do things to make it tough for law abiding citizens to get guns? This world is just going to hell too fast! I am a LEO and i am all for us law abiding citizens to have ANY gun we choose! This crap just makes me so sick I cant stand it . I thought when this D.C. ruling got passed it would be greaat but damn these gun haters are just stupid! Call me nieve but I cant believe this crap is happening in America. We are supposed to be free and be able to have arms . Why the heck does the GOVT have to "okay" what guns we have? This crap just burns me up . I listen to Talk Radio and the guys on there are talking about it and it so unreal how this country has become . All these guys are calling in and saying the same thing I am saying in support of our 2nd amendment and yet the GOVT just ignores this crap and lets the states regulate what we can and cant have . It is a shame I cant carry a high capacity magazine into California if I wanted to . I bought a new S.A. XD-9 Service and it says right on the box "WARNING ; HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES ;ILLEGAL FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA" . Stuff like that is just crap.

[nick__45]

i think it is time we ban the 1st ammendment. mr. and mrs. america, i'd only i could get the majority vote in the senate, i'd ban every word in the webster dictionary.

how about we spit this country in half and those we live in one area can have all the guns they want as long as they stay out of trouble; ie no gang bang stuff? the other side can enforce whatever law they want for whoever they want. if that happens, i like to reside in texas, specifically el paso.

[PAGunner]

On that note, the Roman Republic had redistribution of wealth and arms control that make DC look like a libertarian beehive.

Scary how analogous history can be to the present.

[hogship]

Why the hell would a police cheif act so stupid as to do things to make it tough for law abiding citizens to get guns?



It's an attitude.....elitist......fear and hate of guns.

For them, it doesn't have to make any sense....and if you look at the crime rate in D.C. over the years, it's evident that banning guns hasn't prevented crime.

For us, in order to understand what drives the anti-gun sentiment, see the above in bold.

hog

[unit1069]

The biggest fear is not vote proof congress. Is Obama selecting a Supreme Court Justice. What happen today it to allow pro gun lawsuits to have their day in court. The fight from now on is in the courts.

If you haven't register to vote do so now. Help Ralf Nadar get into the ballot box so he can split the Democratic party. Vote pro gun, vote conservative, vote Republican.

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/heller-discussion-board-incorporation-and-the-need-for-further-litigation/

You're so right! Everything any of us can do to defeat the Left/Media/Democrat axis helps.

This country is in deep trouble from within, and the fact that the Heller case hinged on a single US Supreme Court vote is about as frightening as it gets.

A few years ago there was another case that Americans lost by a single vote, the Kelo decision, cast by the same Justice who thankfully cleared his mind in the Heller case long enough to understand the constitution.

Stevens, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer, JJ., joined. Kennedy, J., filed a concurring opinion. O’Connor, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which Rehnquist, C. J., and Scalia and Thomas, JJ., joined. Thomas, J., filed a dissenting opinion. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/04-108.ZS.html

Governments can now use eminent domain to seize private property not for public use but rather to turn over to private owners, groups, organizations, or corporations. To cure the ills of insufficient tax revenues cities, towns, and states can now cut deals with developers and throw lifelong residents under the bus in order to secure higher tax revenues from presumably more profitable enterprises.

The mainstream media arm of the Left/Media/Democrat axis reported only briefly when the decision was handed down and except for talk radio the issue of government tyranny was all but ignored by the mainstream media. Justice Kennedy voted with the majority and understanding how loose a cannon he really is America needs more than his swing vote to count on when the Left begins their counter-offensive against Heller.

Heller may be a short-lived reaffirmation of the Second Amendment unless voters elect the right president. By all indications the Left/Media/Democrat axis is already forming a mega-special interest group coalition consisting of every one of the L/M/D groups to overturn Heller. Wayne La Pierre was right to say to Brady Campaign's Helmke on Thursday night that he knew the Left will be coming after this decision every time Helmke babbled on about how the argument is over.

[gunnery]

Someone please ask Fear Night what a semi automatic machine gun is?!?!?!?!

[Fear Night]

Someone please ask Fear Night what a semi automatic machine gun is?!?!?!?!
No, you need to ask DC that question. They classify semi automatics as machine guns. The DC "machine gun" ban says any auto or semi auto capable of accepting a detachable magazine or 12+ rounds is an illegal machine gun.

The Brady Bunch did a good job blurring the lines between fully automatic and semi automatic. To people with little knowledge of guns there is no difference between the two.

[Javelin]

Let the Left spend a fortune defending their anti-rights agenda. It's about time America turned the tables on these Stalinists.

Exactly. Let the left have their day with all those lawyers. Spend all their donated cash on attempting to defunk the SCOTUS ruling at a city/state level.

It will be almost like watching a bad Jerry Springer re-run. :rofl:

[WiskyT]

Let the Left spend a fortune defending their anti-rights agenda. It's about time America turned the tables on these Stalinists.

The left has limitless money. They have backers like billionair subversive george soros. They also have public money. The mayor of DC can lose a lawsuit every week. What does he care? The city (taxpayers) pay the costs. He's not worried about getting re-elected. This is the city that re-elected marion barry after he was video taped smoking crack in an hotel room with hookers. They'll run us broke long before they go under.

Big money guys like soros, and there are many of them, want to be in charge. They see the Constitution and "The American Way" as the obstacle that keeps them from taking over. So they subvert our culture on every level. They run the media, the universities, they buy judges and congressman. Their influence allows them to control markets so they make another fortune everytime the market goes up, or down, a penny. They then use that money to further subvert our country.

[TheXXFiles]

The Mayor and Police Chief are sore loosers. They need to move to another country. The interesting thing is they don't want you to have guns - but the Chief has them and I bet the Mayor does too! Anyone know?

[ERASER]

The Mayor and Police Chief are sore loosers. They need to move to another country. The interesting thing is they don't want you to have guns - but the Chief has them and I bet the Mayor does too! Anyone know?

Here in Philly (as I would image it is in most major US cities) the mayor has his own police security detail ---- 24/7.

[Sarge45]

They and the chief of police of d.c. just said they will be strictly regulating handguns by registration. They said "There will be NO AUTHORIZATIONS OF AUTOMATIC OR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS"

WTF!?!?! so they will just accept single action revolvers?

The socialists and communists are proliferating and gaining power through assimilation. Maybe Sen. McCarthy wasn't so wrong after all ?

[Cody Jarrett]

Well if there's no more semi-auto handguns then they have no case for ammo stamping do they?

[WiskyT]

The socialists and communists are proliferating and gaining power through assimilation. Maybe Sen. McCarthy wasn't so wrong after all ?


I've been saying the same thing. Older people I know cringe when I say that since they have more knowledge of the McCarthy hearings, but the limited knowledge I have of it says he may have been right. He went after people for being communists. Well, time has shown that many of them WERE communists! Communism was the enemy then like terrorists are now. This country is just so used to not doing anything about anything, that people get surprised when you suggest that there should be investigations of anti-American activities.

Rev right, jimmie cattah, faraquan, and even US Senators go overseas and meet with foreign leaders who have vowed the destruction of the USA and we do nothing. This is getting off topic, or is it? It all seems very tied togeather to me and many of these people are connected through various organizations. Many of them have ties to obabma as well.

[mastrbloata]

What did you honestly think was going to happen?:wow: I mean really.....When liberal/leftist hacks get a Supreme Court ruling they want, it's LAW. Non negotiable, undisputable, set in stone, national policy altering, everyone must abide by the ruling now, LAW. When a ruling comes along they don't like or value, then the ruling is silly, stupid, short sighted and will be treated with contempt while they pretend the ruling never happened. If the ruling wasn't and egg head, elitist, socialist, new age, living, breathing constitutional ruling, it won't be obeyed until opposition is made to heel. And that won't happen anytime soon in the political climate we're experiencing.

[LoneRanger19]

Here is Cathy Lanier DC Chief O' Police on Heller (she's got four stars on her shoulder??) Someone's over-compensating.

Thankfully short at 1-minute: 26-seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HWb8INbZg

They both seem a little stressed, don't they?

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/80290066.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1933B836CAF14D5D5C812EA5A231AB9A2AE5A5397277B4DC33E

All I could find of the Mayor's words were edits in news stories, but I did hear him say no to "semi-auto or full-auto handguns." I'm sure the good C o' Police will have no input as to the make up of the next plate of DC ordinances. After all, she doesn't make the law. She just enforces it. ::)


That is DC Chief of Police :wow:. I thought you had to be a fat old guy to be the Chief. I wonder I she was able to move up the ranks.
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[Fear Night]

What did you honestly think was going to happen?:wow: I mean really.....When liberal/leftist hacks get a Supreme Court ruling they want, it's LAW. Non negotiable, undisputable, set in stone, national policy altering, everyone must abide by the ruling now, LAW. When a ruling comes along they don't like or value, then the ruling is silly, stupid, short sighted and will be treated with contempt while they pretend the ruling never happened. If the ruling wasn't and egg head, elitist, socialist, new age, living, breathing constitutional ruling, it won't be obeyed until opposition is made to heel. And that won't happen anytime soon in the political climate we're experiencing.
Exactly.

If the ruling were anti-gun, we would have lost it ALL. There would be door to door gun confiscations in the liberal states by the end of the year.

We actually win the battle ... and ... DC gets revolvers.

[johnydoe]

I've heard that the NRA is preparing to file a lawsuit against D.C. to allow semi-autos.

[glockbk]

Maybe, maybe not. There is quite a lot of fear among Democrats that angering gun owners will result in a replay of the 1994 congressional elections. Today's Heller decision should give every last one of them more concern than the way things were yesterday.


So what. I'm never voting for these donkeys. Obama will never get my vote and neither will any Democrat.

[orlando_5]

I've heard that the NRA is preparing to file a lawsuit against D.C. to allow semi-autos.

Justice Scalia majority opinion is very board. It is what every gun owners asked for and more. While the level judicial scrutiny was not stated it implied strict because Scalia attached the 2nd to the 1st amendment.

The only two thing that is left is incorporation, which the NRA has just filed and how far "Shall not be infringe" carry.

DC is wasting money. Those laws will not past judicial scrutiny.

BTW if you have a chance, send him a email of thanks. (http://www.cato.org/people/robert-levy)