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Guys, what is value of this pistol nowadays?
I know they are rare. In fact, there isn't any on Gunbroker right now. GunsAmerica has some. Check out these prices. :wow:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.aspx?T=p7m10
The reason I ask is that there is a nickel P7M10 at a local shop on consignment. Its in mint condition and priced well below anything on GA. I handled it today. I love the P7 series, albeit, this model is a little blocky. Still, as many of you know, I like the rare and unique stuff. Blocky or not, its still a beautiful pistol in my eyes and there is barely a scratch on it.
I have a P7M8 already.
LUVMYSIGP225
06-26-2008, 16:06
My local dealer has a hard-chromed model, USED, for $2300. :wow:
smirnoff
06-26-2008, 16:37
The will only get more expensive in time.
The will only get more expensive in time.
Yeah, that's why I may grab this one.
Like I said, its pristine.
When I was looking to buy my PSP a few months ago I was seeing them sell for around $1800-2000. I would post some WTB adds on HKpro
When I was looking to buy my PSP a few months ago I was seeing them sell for around $1800-2000. I would post some WTB adds on HKpro
Well its not something I was actively looking to purchase. I just stumbled upon this one. Its going for $1775, but I thought of offering $1600. Again, its a consignment gun.
Well its not something I was actively looking to purchase. I just stumbled upon this one. Its going for $1775, but I thought of offering $1600. Again, its a consignment gun.
if you got the cash layin around, get it. give it 6months and it'll probably double in price:wavey:
if you got the cash layin around, get it. give it 6months and it'll probably double in price:wavey:
Yeah, I'll probably pick it up.
Depending on the condition, I've seen H&K P-7M10 sell from $2500-4000.
Depending on the condition, I've seen H&K P-7M10 sell from $2500-4000.
Yeah, well this is a deal then, because its in outstanding condition, albeit it needs a good cleaning. However, the frame and slide are scratch free and the nickel finish is pristine. I don't think it was ever carried.
Not a bad deal. But an expensive firearm is like a work of art, it is only worth what someone will actually buy it for later. I have pusrchased guns in the past looking to keep as an investment and have only taken a loss on them later. If I buy a gun now, it is for my enjoyment, no matter what the cost.
SouthpawShootr
06-26-2008, 22:22
I remember when I bought my M13 5 years ago, the M10 was about the same price, in spite of the fact that it had been out of production for a while. I wish I had picked one up. Those prices are insane. I seem to remember that the nickel finish on the M10 was rather common (for that model), with the blued finish being a bit more difficult to come by (a situation that is reversed for the M13). You just have to make absolutely sure that the gun has a factory original nickel finish and not something that was done afterwards. There are several vendors out there that do such a good job, it'd be hard to tell the difference.
I remember when I bought my M13 5 years ago, the M10 was about the same price, in spite of the fact that it had been out of production for a while. I wish I had picked one up. Those prices are insane. I seem to remember that the nickel finish on the M10 was rather common (for that model), with the blued finish being a bit more difficult to come by (a situation that is reversed for the M13). You just have to make absolutely sure that the gun has a factory original nickel finish and not something that was done afterwards. There are several vendors out there that do such a good job, it'd be hard to tell the difference.
Well, the P7m13s are going for big bucks too, but not quite as much as these are.
With the beefed up slide, the M10 is not as elegant looking as the 9mm P7s.
srothman
06-27-2008, 00:24
Bac1023 I am your long lost son. I think you should share some of the guns in your collection with your son. I will just borrow them for a few months, or maybe years.
That seems like a good price for the H&K. You may want to ask at http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/. It is the "the cult of the P7". The people there know everything about the P7, including values of the different models.
What condition is the cardboard box?
Forgoten214
06-27-2008, 00:39
I like the PSP model myself.
Zapfenstreich
06-27-2008, 01:07
:rofl:
What condition is the cardboard box?
Oh not not another WTF a $3000 gun with a 50 cent box.
What condition is the cardboard box?
LOL!
I'm not sure, as I didn't look at it, but the tag said box included.
I can't buy it without that cardboard box! :supergrin:
skud_dusty
06-27-2008, 01:32
Well, the P7m13s are going for big bucks too, but not quite as much as these are.
With the beefed up slide, the M10 is not as elegant looking as the 9mm P7s.
I honestly think it's right up your ally. It's got soul, it's rare, possible to say the best of the breed?
Sounds like a great price, jump on it and post pics :tongueout:
I like the PSP model myself.
They are the easiest P7s to find and the cheapest to buy.
Forgoten214
06-27-2008, 01:44
They are the easiest P7s to find and the cheapest to buy.
Thats why I like them :supergrin:
Thats why I like them :supergrin:
Yeah, besides the mag release, they are basically P7M8s, without the high price.
Forgoten214
06-27-2008, 02:20
Yeah, besides the mag release, they are basically P7M8s, without the high price.
Yes, I'd like one for CCW purposes. the PSP. I don't know about carrying the more high priced models though. Wouldn't want to mess it up.
Yes, I'd like one for CCW purposes. the PSP. I don't know about carrying the more high priced models though. Wouldn't want to mess it up.
They make great carry guns, very slim and extremely accurate.
Forgoten214
06-27-2008, 02:39
They make great carry guns, very slim and extremely accurate.
So I am told, I swear HK does that on purpose create awesome firearms in limited quantity to piss us off and to make them more legendary. :whistling:
HiVelSword
06-27-2008, 06:17
When I first heard of the P7M10 way back when I thought, "A 10mm P7??!?"
"Awesome!!!!"
And then I found out it was going to be a .40 S&W.
And then I saw the mile high slide.
Me? It would be STRICTLY an investment piece.
When I first heard of the P7M10 way back when I thought, "A 10mm P7??!?"
"Awesome!!!!"
And then I found out it was going to be a .40 S&W.
And then I saw the mile high slide.
Me? It would be STRICTLY an investment piece.
Yeah, they are chunky. I still like them for the uniqueness they have.
bimmer2325
06-27-2008, 09:53
My local shop has one NIB with 6 or 7 mags for $2900.
They are weird pieces and the price seems to be all over the place. $1700 is a good price, sometimes you can find them a bit cheaper, but you don't seem to be a real bargain hunter. I looked at them a couple of times ( I have a M8, M13, and 2 PSPs) but they are so ugly, like they have encephalitis.
I want to pick up a P7k3 at some point, that would top off the HK collection for me.
Yeah, that's why I may grab this one.
Like I said, its pristine.
BAC - you're outta control !! :supergrin:
I've owned P7M8's and have handles the P7M10, amd the M10 is friggin fat!!! That's why it never caught on. They beefed up the slide so much for the .40 that the pistol was never that popular. You could probably pick up a P9S in 45 acp as they are still available at somewhat reasonable prices.
smirnoff
06-27-2008, 10:52
BAC - you're outta control !! :supergrin:
I've owned P7M8's and have handles the P7M10, amd the M10 is friggin fat!!! That's why it never caught on. They beefed up the slide so much for the .40 that the pistol was never that popular. You could probably pick up a P9S in 45 acp as they are still available at somewhat reasonable prices.
This makes this gun rare and it will hold the value better than others. Someone will alwasy desire one. The gun might not be as practical, but sounds like he is buying it for the collecting purposes. I myslef would not mind picking up a firearm that can be passed on to my children and grandchildren and so on.
They are weird pieces and the price seems to be all over the place. $1700 is a good price, sometimes you can find them a bit cheaper, but you don't seem to be a real bargain hunter. I looked at them a couple of times ( I have a M8, M13, and 2 PSPs) but they are so ugly, like they have encephalitis.
I want to pick up a P7k3 at some point, that would top off the HK collection for me.
Actually, you would be surprised at some of the bargains I've gotten over the years.
While I don't think they as nice looking as the 9mm P7s, I wouldn't call them ugly, just different, which is why I like them.
Pictures, anybody? Please?
HiVelSword
06-27-2008, 15:44
Now you can see just how ridiculous the slide is. :supergrin:
http://www.suvarisilah.com/images/products/hk_p7m101.jpg
There's a Lunde photo as well but It's way too huge to post. Google images HK P7 M10 and you'll see it on page two.
Well its not something I was actively looking to purchase. I just stumbled upon this one. Its going for $1775, but I thought of offering $1600. Again, its a consignment gun.
Offer $1600.00,
I believe that is a good price,
the economy is hurting,if the seller is motivated,he should take the offer.
Offer $1600.00,
I believe that is a good price,
the economy is hurting,if the seller is motivated,he should take the offer.
Yeah, that's what I figure.
Thanks Grecco.
My local shop has one NIB with 6 or 7 mags for $2900.
Great price. Since, mags are about $100 a piece.
One of the departments in my academy class had M13's. The mags were very hard to load. Even the first few rounds were hard to load. Not a big deal for the average guy, but when you have instructors yelling at everyone to "hurry up!" it was a pain. After a few days the guys fingers were all bleeding and we had use teamwork and help them load their mags to get back on the line. After a couple more days our fingers were all cut up too! They worked fine and shot well. The M10's might be easier to load because the rounds are a little bigger. If you can take your time and don't have to load mags for several days in a row it's probably not a problem.
skud_dusty
06-28-2008, 09:52
http://www.remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/p7/m10blue.gif
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/bac1023/p7m10nickelrt.jpg
nick__45
06-28-2008, 11:05
Offer $1600.00,
I believe that is a good price,
the economy is hurting,if the seller is motivated,he should take the offer.
i never like the idea of consignment gun because they're always more expensive than if folks just take the time to advertise it for pure private sale. i believe shops in this area take 10% the selling price and some fee for transfer as well.
p7m10 is a nice little gun. i shot one a few years back with great interest. however, i couldn't justify the price though. if i was one of those "i am deadly because i have 3 guns" folks then i'll get something really hot and good even at high price. but i am more of "i got to try many things and probably keep them all" person so i go for modern and medium price pieces. i was doing some comparison the other day between a commuter bicycle i bought, gary fisher wingra priced at $420, and one of my tupper ware gun. i scratched my head of how something as simple as a gun cost as much if not more than a bike with pretty decent setup and equipment. then i thought about the old idea was a person should only need 2-4 guns total and the price is there because it is consider a precious life saving commodity with a sporting purpose as well. since not a lot were sold, a profit margin was greater per firearm. nowaday, we have a minimum of 10 guns each before we reach the age of 25. so these toys are getting way out of hand at their current price. i am hoping they throw in more goodies while keeping the price. and mags price are out of control if one was compare them to other commodity.
oh yeah, buy it man. you only got one life to live so live it to the fullest even if you go broke. guns cost nothing to run if you just stare and man handle them.:tequila:
and ask them to throw in a nice pelican case for that thing. the case cost like 29 bucks for pelican or 5 bucks for regular.
i never like the idea of consignment gun because they're always more expensive than if folks just take the time to advertise it for pure private sale. i believe shops in this area take 10% the selling price and some fee for transfer as well.
Yeah, but its still cheap considering what these things are going for in this condition.
FLIPPER 348
06-28-2008, 12:03
They make great carry guns, very slim and extremely accurate.
.................everything the M10 and the M13 aint!
.................everything the M10 and the M13 aint!
True, but I don't plan on carrying it.
crazymoose
06-29-2008, 00:35
http://www.remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/p7/m10blue.gif
No HK should ever look like a Hi-Point.
MSgt Dotson
06-29-2008, 02:27
The .40 version is merely a curiosity, with an overly bulbous slide, but is bound to be collectible one day, if not already....
I'd pass on it, unless I found one reasonable priced, to keep as a safe queen...
(Bound to be absolutely zero h0lsters for it, as well)
No HK should ever look like a Hi-Point.
Believe me, in hand it looks NOTHING like a Hi-Point.
I agree it doesn't look nearly as nice as the 9mm P7s, but its a very well built pistol and bound to keep appreciating in value.
nick__45
06-30-2008, 20:28
i doubt hk p7 series looks anything like hi-point. if a p7m8 ever comes across my in a 600-750 range, i'll pull the trigger. i lost my chance last year because seller was including way too many goodies that i frankly had no room in the safe for. i also lost my chance on a nice luger at the show for $700; i am still kicking myself every day about it. i learn my lesson and carry at least $3k whenever i go to show now as private collectors don't take check or american express.
HiVelSword
06-30-2008, 20:42
if a p7m8 ever comes across my in a 600-750 range, i'll pull the trigger.
I'd humiliate myself on public television for M8 money. It'd be worth it. :rofl:
The Habit
06-30-2008, 22:49
My buddy recently paid $3400 for a NIB P7M10. They are starting to bring crazy money. I'd jump all over that one for the asking price.
I put an offer in of $1600 and the guy accepted. However, one thing I never do is take money out of savings for a gun purchase. I was told before by the manger of the place that consignment guns were allowed to be laid away for two weeks. The goofball behind the counter tonight said they don't do it at all. He was new and I was going to ask him to call the manager at home, but I figured it wasn't worth it. I'm still not using any savings money, so if the gun is still there in a couple weeks when I'm ready to write a check, fine, if not too bad.
That was a little frustrating and a reason I don't normally go in this particular place. They hire any clown off the street. Most know little to nothing about firearms.
Thanks for letting me vent. :steamed: When I cool down, I might stop in during the day later this week when the manager is there.
Anyway, the gun is mint and this would be a nice deal for me.
fnfalman
07-01-2008, 18:56
So I am told, I swear HK does that on purpose create awesome firearms in limited quantity to piss us off and to make them more legendary. :whistling:
HK didn't purposely make it in limited quantity. Nobody wanted those pistols.
HK didn't purposely make it in limited quantity. Nobody wanted those pistols.
Obviously people want them now or they wouldn't be selling for the prices they are nowadays. While I admit, it doesn't look nearly as nice as my P7M8, due to the chunky slide and fat grip, its a very well built pistol.
For me its a shooter as well as an investment. The value will continue to rise and I can get this at a good price compared to what they have been selling for online.
fnfalman
07-01-2008, 19:46
Obviously people want them now or they wouldn't be selling for the prices they are nowadays.
Which doesn't obviate the fact that they were not wanted back then. People are clamoring for Beretta AR-70 and FN FNC too and they were hunks of junks way back then that nobody wanted.:dunno:
Well, bac, if you have the money, and you have the nickeled P7M10 in hand, put it in front of them, and you cna probably get it for $1600 OTD. Cash talks.
It is hard to come across those things for sale. The LAST time I saw a nickeled P7M10, I bought it, and that was in 1998, I think. So, being the hen's tooth it is, the price reflects the "encounter cost."
It is a darned weird gun. Heavy, chunky, shoots ok, novel; bragging rights. I never really shoot it.
Being a gun addict, sometimes the price and justification boils down to how you feel when you have it in your possession. :supergrin:
I am glad I do not have that temptation near my gun shops. I probably would have shuffled my way to owning it, too.
Pal O' Mine
07-01-2008, 20:17
I had a REALLY nice P7-series collection at one time that included six P7M10's...one that was about 98% that I shot, the others in perfect, unfired condition. IMO, the P7M10 has to be the sweetest .40S&W to shoot in existence. That slide that you guys criticize helps to make the M10 a softer shooter than any of the 9mm's I own.
bac1023, this might be one time that you break your own rule and get the money now to buy that gun before it's gone, especially if it has the original box, two mags, manual & cleaning tools. It's been 5 years since P7M10's were going for $1600. If it's as nice as you say and includes most of the accessories it's easily worth over $2000 to the P7 crowd.
Also, be sure it is an original factory nickel finish and not an aftermarket hard chrome job....BIG difference in value. The grip screws and takedown button should be black, not silver. Also, ask if you can remove one of the grip panels. Some of the internals underneath should be black. If everything is silver, the gun has an aftermarket finish.
I had a REALLY nice P7-series collection at one time that included six P7M10's...one that was about 98% that I shot, the others in perfect, unfired condition. IMO, the P7M10 has to be the sweetest .40S&W to shoot in existence. That slide that you guys criticize helps to make the M10 a softer shooter than any of the 9mm's I own.
bac1023, this might be one time that you break your own rule and get the money now to buy that gun before it's gone, especially if it has the original box, two mags, manual & cleaning tools. It's been 5 years since P7M10's were going for $1600. If it's as nice as you say and includes most of the accessories it's easily worth over $2000 to the P7 crowd.
Also, be sure it is an original factory nickel finish and not an aftermarket hard chrome job....BIG difference in value. The grip screws and takedown button should be black, not silver. Also, ask if you can remove one of the grip panels. Some of the internals underneath should be black. If everything is silver, the gun has an aftermarket finish.
Thanks.
Yes it comes with the box and accesseries.
Also, it is the original nickel finish. The button and and the grip screws are black. Plus, nickel looks different than hard chrome. Nickel has a yellowish tint to it, while hard chrome is bluish.
Yellowfin
07-01-2008, 21:20
HK didn't purposely make it in limited quantity. Nobody wanted those pistols.It was before CCW was as common as it is today. If the demand for a carry gun was then what it is now, they'd be cranking them out like Cheerios.
Remington700VS
07-01-2008, 21:45
The P7 ROCKS!!!
Well, I finally put an offer in for the M10. Its still there. Unfortunately for the owner, the best place to sell these specialty handguns is online. The chances of someone walking in and laying down that kind of cash for a gun they have never seen before is not likely.
I went with $1400, which is way low for a P7M10 is this kind of shape, which is nearly perfect. It does need a good cleaning.
I think he will take it.
zackwatt
08-17-2008, 16:55
Damn, I so overpaid for my PSP. (1,599.99) :steamed:
I just checked Gunbroker and GunsAmerica. The cheapest used models are $2200 and $2600. NIB models are going over $3K. :wow:
If I can snag this one, it would be a real nice deal. :banana: :rock:
Forgoten214
08-17-2008, 16:58
http://www.gunsamerica.com/951038447/Guns-For-Sale/Gun-Auctions/Pistols/Heckler-Koch-Pistols/SteelFrame/H_K_P7M10.htm
Well, I finally put an offer in for the M10. Its still there. Unfortunately for the owner, the best place to sell these specialty handguns is online. The chances of someone walking in and laying down that kind of cash for a gun they have never seen before is not likely.
I went with $1400, which is way low for a P7M10 is this kind of shape, which is nearly perfect. It does need a good cleaning.
I think he will take it.
Good job, Bac. It's a beautiful gun. Nickel M10 on the market averages $2200 as of a month or two ago, but you often see them above 3k (almost bought one, but found a 99% P7M8, 2003, for $650 and I jumped). So anything less than $2k is a deal. Less that $1600 is a steal. And at $1400? You're getting an M10 for the average price of a great quality M8.
Let us know what happens, and please post pics.
Which doesn't obviate the fact that they were not wanted back then. People are clamoring for Beretta AR-70 and FN FNC too and they were hunks of junks way back then that nobody wanted.:dunno:
Funny you mention those 2, they are the final two I want to finish off my collection. I was a dumbass and bought preban AR15s instead of an AR70 for $1400 and an FNC for $1300. FNCs are going for $3500 now.
Good job, Bac. It's a beautiful gun. Nickel M10 on the market averages $2200 as of a month or two ago, but you often see them above 3k (almost bought one, but found a 99% P7M8, 2003, for $650 and I jumped). So anything less than $2k is a deal. Less that $1600 is a steal. And at $1400? You're getting an M10 for the average price of a great quality M8.
Let us know what happens, and please post pics.
Thanks Mac, I certainly will.
You know how I love the post pics. ;)
nick__45
08-17-2008, 22:53
Funny you mention those 2, they are the final two I want to finish off my collection. I was a dumbass and bought preban AR15s instead of an AR70 for $1400 and an FNC for $1300. FNCs are going for $3500 now.
+1. people love to buy stuffs that are so rare that they forget that the reason these things were so rare is because they were no good and the manufacture ceased production. another reason is that much better design is in place.
the only old gun i really like and think still hold practical value is the luger. the design was great and the ergonomic is excellent.
+1. people love to buy stuffs that are so rare that they forget that the reason these things were so rare is because they were no good and the manufacture ceased production. another reason is that much better design is in place.
the only old gun i really like and think still hold practical value is the luger. the design was great and the ergonomic is excellent.
Nick, the P7M10 was very good, solid pistol. The problem with the P7M10 and P7M13 is that they lost the slim P7 profile that made the gun so desirable, since they are double stacks. The P7M10 also has a thicker slide to withstand the pressure and recoil of the 40S&W round. There weren't many made and the value has really gone up.
To me, all the P7 series guns are desirable and the P7M10 is about as rare as they get. I have quite a few rare guns in my collection and enjoy every one of them. I'm not big on the dime a dozen variety.
To me, the P7M10 has a lot of appeal. I agree its heavy and chunky for its intended purpose as a carry gun, but that's far from my intention for it.
+1. people love to buy stuffs that are so rare that they forget that the reason these things were so rare is because they were no good and the manufacture ceased production. another reason is that much better design is in place.
the only old gun i really like and think still hold practical value is the luger. the design was great and the ergonomic is excellent.
Several SWAT teams and elite law enforcement still use the PM13. It's not an obsolete design...it's an excellent design. It's simply not something HK wanted to continue to deliver to the market for many reasons. Cost of production being one of them.
JNKIRK1974
08-18-2008, 12:02
Damn, I so overpaid for my PSP. (1,599.99) :steamed:
Wow! I paid $750 for mine and it was graded-A.......and they had more at the same price in my local gun shop.
Mine's a PSP as well.
Several SWAT teams and elite law enforcement still use the PM13. It's not an obsolete design...it's an excellent design. It's simply not something HK wanted to continue to deliver to the market for many reasons. Cost of production being one of them.
Yeah, production costs hurt the P7 series. On top of that many of HK's older smiths who built them were leaving for retirement.
Between that and the rising cost of production, HK ceased production. Still, I think they're one of the best designs in handgun history.
cyberiad
08-18-2008, 15:18
I shot an M10 once, it was a very soft shooting 40. I know a guy who shoots one in IDPA. In the 2 or 3 years I've seen him shoot it I've never seen it malfunction, which is what I would expect. I understand he does have trouble finding magazines.
I shot an M10 once, it was a very soft shooting 40. I know a guy who shoots one in IDPA. In the 2 or 3 years I've seen him shoot it I've never seen it malfunction, which is what I would expect. I understand he does have trouble finding magazines.
Cool.
Yeah, anything for the gun is hard to come by. That's OK, I don't plan on carrying it.
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